Werner's unqualified trainers...

[Jason607]

Well I am through half of my training, gone through two trainers. My second trainer was a true role model of what a trainer should be, but my first was an example of what not to be as a trucker.

My first trainer has only been OTR and with Werner for a amazing 6 months. He had several speeding violations, I don't know how he kept his job. He was the self proclaimed "master of U-turns". This comming on the heels of two Werner drivers killing a Walmart truck driver and a 16 year old girl in the past month in separate U-turn incedents. He lost traction on the truck from driving too fast on wet roads on several occasions. I almost bailed out of the truck once. He had an obsession with the bathroom. We stopped a lot, and it took him a lot longer than any male should take to take a piss. On top of this, we were late for almost every load. I was taken off his truck because he got suspended for a week for multiple log violations in the past six months. I couldn't get any hours with him because he kept taking me out of the seat. I told him I needed the hours so I could learn, and finish training to get on my own so I can pay my bills. His responce was "well, it's not allways gravy money so I don't understand why you want more than $300 a week". He was also a liberal, socialists. You know, the type where anyone who makes a profit is evil. He started telling me of how I should think about certian subjects.... so I asked him why he wasn't as successfull as people with a different political agenda and he said it was because he was discriminated on throught his life. BS, he can't get anything right. Werner needs to fire him, not have him teaching other students.

[syl77dar]

goodluck

[classicxl]

sorry to hear about the bad trainer. When i started with Werner years ago I had two trainers that were great both had over 10 years of driving and never go in the driver seat unless i was out of hours

[ppc25]

hey jason607 sounds like a bit of a WxNxxR to me, but that post just made my christmas it was hilarious, good luck with the new trainer buddy.

[slider64683]

I have a friend that has only been driving for 4 months (summer months) and he is noww a trainer. Someone who has never drove in the snow is a trainer telling someone how to drive. How stupid can someone be. Werner I never will trust there drivers untill proven diffrent.

Happy Holidays

[classicxl]

you should at least have driving experience in four seasons and all 48 states Canada crossings and delivering to Mexico before the let you be a trainer at Werner

[slider64683]

I agree totally. I have been driving for 1 year now and I dont feel I am ready to become a trainer. I think there should be atleast a min of 2 years OTR. Thats just me though.

Happy Holidays

[classicxl]

this has been said many times on the forum but you cant get rid of bad trainers unless you report them and stop putting up with the crap

[larryh31]

I think there should be at least a min of 2 years OTR.

True, but the experienced drivers are not volunteering to be trainers. So companies are lowering the requirements because they are desperate for trainers.

[Jason607]

I am a non smoker, but when PTO is over, I will ask about Robert Lewis. This is my second career, and I know I need to learn from those how have "been there and done that". One reason I went with Werner instead of another company was that many of them after a few weeks, they team you with a student. What I am not getting paid for, I want in experience and skills. I was told at orientation that to be a trainer, we had to be in for at least six months, and have a good record. This trainer did not have that, and yet was allowed to be a trainer. AA at work is what I think.

Overall, I have enjoyed my experience. I have gotten to see a lot. Lots of scenery and it is different. I saw four major accidents, two involved Swift trucks, the other two I could not identify the trucks, but one was white, but it had been on fire.

[classicxl]

just enjoy your time on the road and get out by yourself then you control what happens with your truck

[NevadaJim]

Most of the posts I read seem to focus on years of experience when describing a trainer. Time in the seat is only part of the answer. Just because a driver has years of experience doesn't mean he/she will be an effective trainer. They need to be experienced, and also have some teaching skills. Just because someone has the experience doesn't mean they can teach. It's too bad some of these companies don't bring back some old timers, put them on a salary, and let them teach the new drivers. I think the trainer positions are "sold" to drivers as a way to make more money, instead of what it should be...training.

[slider64683]

I am a very teaching type of person. I have been around this business for almost 23 years. I can tell you about almost anything doing with a truck but I am not any ware close to being a trainer. Just cause someone might beable to teach doesnt mean anything. I can tell a driver how to do and how the book says to do it but first hand experince is the best.

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[Karnajj]

HEY JASON WHEN YOU GET A GOOD TRAINER, THEY WILL BE FINE, ASK FOR ROBERT LEWIS and/or Glenn Donivan if you do not smoke. They are REALLY GOOD TRAINERs WITH WERNER. If you are a smoker, a Mark or Mike on the Dollar General out of MO is a good trainer, you do not have to go out with a trainer if you are not comfortable. I worked 4 Werner and am considering going back, especially since JB HUNT (JOKe for a company) LIES and gave me only 400 miles in two weeks!!! YES just 400 since old man JB HUnt died this company is going to *ell in a handbasket, right hand does not care or communicate with left hand! I almost starved out there! No money for over 3 weeks! JB lies and promises you one thing and does another! NEVER EVER GO 2 WORK 4 JB HUNT THEY ARE LIARS!

What an idiot.

[BIG JEEP on 44's]

HEY JASON WHEN YOU GET A GOOD TRAINER, THEY WILL BE FINE, ASK FOR ROBERT LEWIS and/or Glenn Donivan if you do not smoke. They are REALLY GOOD TRAINERs WITH WERNER. If you are a smoker, a Mark or Mike on the Dollar General out of MO is a good trainer, you do not have to go out with a trainer if you are not comfortable. I worked 4 Werner and am considering going back, especially since JB HUNT (JOKe for a company) LIES and gave me only 400 miles in two weeks!!! YES just 400 since old man JB HUnt died this company is going to *ell in a handbasket, right hand does not care or communicate with left hand! I almost starved out there! No money for over 3 weeks! JB lies and promises you one thing and does another! NEVER EVER GO 2 WORK 4 JB HUNT THEY ARE LIARS!

400 miles in 2 weeks ... With miles that low I have to think the lack of miles wasn't all on JB's end ...

[glasman2]

I am a very teaching type of person. I have been around this business for almost 23 years. I can tell you about almost anything doing with a truck but I am not any ware close to being a trainer. Just cause someone might beable to teach doesnt mean anything. I can tell a driver how to do and how the book says to do it but first hand experince is the best.

Slider

Trying to figure you out slider. Your first post says you have 3 months experience, and 22 years old. 23 years in the business but still 22 years old and now 1 year experience. You need to be 21 for otr yet you went to jail ( for what ever time span that was ) with 3 months under your belt. Just not adding up.... Maybe you should go back and reedit all of your post so your 45 years old and maybe it will start adding up.

[coalregion]

Trying to figure you out slider. Your first post says you have 3 months experience, and 22 years old. 23 years in the business but still 22 years old and now 1 year experience. You need to be 21 for otr yet you went to jail ( for what ever time span that was ) with 3 months under your belt. Just not adding up.... Maybe you should go back and reedit all of your post so your 45 years old and maybe it will start adding up.

G-man2, It's the internet, where anybody and everybody can be a hero!

[glasman2]

Trying to figure you out slider. Your first post says you have 3 months experience, and 22 years old. 23 years in the business but still 22 years old and now 1 year experience. You need to be 21 for otr yet you went to jail ( for what ever time span that was ) with 3 months under your belt. Just not adding up.... Maybe you should go back and reedit all of your post so your 45 years old and maybe it will start adding up.

G-man2, It's the internet, where anybody and everybody can be a hero!

Ya I hear ya, just calling it like I see it, and pointing out if he wants to be that hero he needs to edit a lot of post. He Joined: 21 Dec 2006 has 60 some post already and in 5 days gained 9 month otr :shock: maybe he has a time machine and fixed that, but it still doesn't account for 23 in the business while 22 years old.. Or I need to see my eye doctor and see about new glasses

[inmate1577]

Yep I can sympathize with trainer nightmare. I had a trainer (not Werner) who was an absolute PIG, to say the least. He to, was the master of the U-Turn, 'cept he called them "turn arounds". He also liked to falisfy his logbooks, drive with a qualcomm on the steering wheel, talking on two cell phones and eating a cheeseburger all at the same time. After 5 days with this loser, I had it up to my neck with his crap. What was the final straw? Going down a country highway, doing 60mph in a 50mph and he's eating his lunch and rolls down the window and tosses his trash out the window.

All he wanted to do was go shopping at walmart and eat at buffets. We got back to the home terminal and I ditched him. He was put on probation, he's no longer a trainer and I was teamed up with guy who not only had a personality, but knew what he was doing without breaking laws and endangering the public.

[dle]

Good Trainers, Bad Trainers - They exist in other companies as well.

It would be interesting, to find out somehow, what insurance requirements there are if any for trainer drivers.

I had the experience that my first trainer was a good one, my second one .... well lets just say he wasn't.