ALL NEWBIES LET’S UNITE! I BOUGHT A TRUCK.Very long!!!!!!!!!

[hitman]

Newbies unite? Oh yeah, i'm going to go out and buy a truck with no experiance and learn the business on my own...yeah right. Good luck henboy, you're going to need it.

[Useless]

Henboy!!

So, you spent some time in college, did you?? You studied the sciences and mathematics. I always though that you had to have a least a few English courses in order to graduate. I don't know of many professors who would waste their time trying to make sense of your mumbo-jumbo.

I hope that your skills as a driver exceed your skills as a writer, but I highly suspect that they do not.

I skimmed through a few points, but I refuse to waste my time trying to decipher your gibberish. For one thing, learn write in paragraphs.

Your driving career can't be all too time consuming, as you must have spent the last several days pounding out your postings, and you could easily occupy a couple more days correcting all of your grammatical and syntax errors.

As to the believability of what you wrote?? I can't say; I refuse to spend my time trying to make any sense of your illiterate ramblings!!

As for the pro's who actually know what they are doing being unwilling to help?? I've not found that to be true at all. You are just miffed because they won't tell you what you want to hear. What I find even more laughable is that you encourage the noobs to eschew the advice of experienced drivers and O/O's, while wanting to be the new ring leader of the "Blind Noob Leading Other Blind Noobs" crowd.

[henboy1]

DEUS wote:
“If his story is true it is scary to think that there may be people like that out on the road.

How on earth he got the fifth wheel jaws to close without being hooked to the trailer.... And he was backing up to the kingpin with them closed?

How did he even get his CDL?….”

DEUS, in response to your comment above did you read the specifics of the whole story on the refresher course or what specifically they teach?CDL school taught me how to couple and so did the refresher course.Trying to couple that trailer wasn’t my fault as I thought it was.Have you ever tried coupling a trailer with the jaws in the locked position?Would you know what the problem is at that time?How did I get my CDL?I received mine 2 yrs ago from Dalys truck driving school.I did everything right in coupling just that my confidence was low.
LOAD IT, many will not do what I did but I did it because I am me.I have driven on many back roads in the past 2 months and encountered almost any hinderances on the road. I do not have all the experience but I have enough to go from Atlanta, Ga to Boaz , AL and drive on 431 or narrow routes like 76 heading out to mountainous Ashville, Sc and it's heights.
Like I said, the guy with the crow bar at Ryder pushed the jaws open before I was able to couple.Try playing with some fifth wheel’s handle before uncoupling and you will see what happens.

GMAN , you are right my numbers do not add up and sorry for that.It is more like $105k-1115k with 38% going towards fuel.This is not including plates,insurance, ad valorean tax or food.

MIKE3FAN, I am sorry you are embarrassed.

Nrvsreck, did you read the fine print?” it said “””" This message is only geared towards the ones on here trying to change their fields and those who may want to know what the trucking industry is like as this will be boring to the pros.As you can see this is long and each subject is geared towards the individuals it pertains to.
This posting will be very controversial to the pros and I would just like to say that I really do not give a hoot to the ones that complains about how I went around some things”””””.
Are you guys not tired of people who constantly come on here asking repetitive questions and only for the pros on here to fend them off to do a “search”?

ThumperS25, It is only BS to you and your comments about how this story is not true is only subjective and relative to you.


EasyRolln, My confidence wasn’t that low to think I would run over curbs.Experience and confidence are two different issues.I just got the pins on the fifith wheel fixed.

Mattangcobra, my current experience is not what you would think and you wouldn’t even know it if I backed up right next to you at a “rest stop”.BTW , the story is true and like I said and if you did take the time to read, …………………”ONLY FOR NEWBIES TRYING TO GET INTO THE INDUSTRY AND NOT NECESSARILY FOR YOU”


Marcel27208 wrote “1.02 per mile? 25% fsc......... WHAT A RIPOFF!!!! NEWBIES UNITE!!!!!!!!!!”

If anyone that you know runs in GA and is local, kindly ask them what most truckers make.Just about anyone in Ga makes that.Like I said, this is local and not OTR a week at a time.
You are right we really must unite because you the pros will not help us.We should seek answers from each other and not “YOU”.

[HeavyChevy]

henboy,although your story was interesting to read from a experienced drivers point of view. i think the phrase you coined newbies unite is a little overdrawn out.and getting help or other forms of info from newbies and not experienced drivers is quite redicilous.there in fact are some drivers who will help.like any other profession on this earth,bad apples drop from the tree everywhere.if you may of had a bad experience with one does not mean you will with another.it took cahunas how you got into the profession,thank god no one was hurt.my opinion you should of done it right like the rest of us.so what? you may have to train OTR.that valuable training you recieve,while you may not be "sleeping in your own bed" would of been a big help in some of your endeavors i read you encountered.but too late,can't turn back time.so i wish you good luck in your container career.let's hope this posts makes the next candidate think before buying a truck without not knowing how to turn they key!

[dpatt]

Is there a condensed version of this post on CD by any chance... :?

[ssoutlaw]

[quote="henboy1"]DEUS wote:
“If his story is true it is scary to think that there may be people like that out on the road.

How on earth he got the fifth wheel jaws to close without being hooked to the trailer.... And he was backing up to the kingpin with them closed?

How did he even get his CDL?….”

DEUS, in response to your comment above did you read the specifics of the whole story on the refresher course or what specifically they teach?CDL school taught me how to couple and so did the refresher course.Trying to couple that trailer wasn’t my fault as I thought it was.Have you ever tried coupling a trailer with the jaws in the locked position?Would you know what the problem is at that time?How did I get my CDL?I received mine 2 yrs ago from Dalys truck driving school.I did everything right in coupling just that my confidence was low.
LOAD IT, many will not do what I did but I did it because I am me.I have driven on many back roads in the past 2 months and encountered almost any hinderances on the road. I do not have all the experience but I have enough to go from Atlanta, Ga to Boaz , AL and drive on 431 or narrow routes like 76 heading out to mountainous Ashville, Sc and it's heights.
Like I said, the guy with the crow bar at Ryder pushed the jaws open before I was able to couple.Try playing with some fifth wheel’s handle before uncoupling and you will see what happens.

GMAN , you are right my numbers do not add up and sorry for that.It is more like $105k-1115k with 38% going towards fuel.This is not including plates,insurance, ad valorean tax or food.

MIKE3FAN, I am sorry you are embarrassed.

Nrvsreck, did you read the fine print?” it said “””" This message is only geared towards the ones on here trying to change their fields and those who may want to know what the trucking industry is like as this will be boring to the pros.As you can see this is long and each subject is geared towards the individuals it pertains to.
This posting will be very controversial to the pros and I would just like to say that I really do not give a hoot to the ones that complains about how I went around some things”””””.
Are you guys not tired of people who constantly come on here asking repetitive questions and only for the pros on here to fend them off to do a “search”?

ThumperS25, It is only BS to you and your comments about how this story is not true is only subjective and relative to you.


EasyRolln, My confidence wasn’t that low to think I would run over curbs.Experience and confidence are two different issues.I just got the pins on the fifith wheel fixed.

Mattangcobra, my current experience is not what you would think and you wouldn’t even know it if I backed up right next to you at a “rest stop”.BTW , the story is true and like I said and if you did take the time to read, …………………”ONLY FOR NEWBIES TRYING TO GET INTO THE INDUSTRY AND NOT NECESSARILY FOR YOU”


Marcel27208 wrote “1.02 per mile? 25% fsc......... WHAT A RIPOFF!!!! NEWBIES UNITE!!!!!!!!!!”

If anyone that you know runs in GA and is local, kindly ask them what most truckers make.Just about anyone in Ga makes that.Like I said, this is local and not OTR a week at a time.
You are right we really must unite because you the pros will not help us.We should seek answers from each other and not “YOU”.[/quote


I have 1 thing to say to you henboy1, If you couldn't feel in the seat of your pants you weren't hooked up then something is wrong. If your 5th wheel was locked up when you tried to hook up, It would have jerked you forward. Just the sound alone should have been an indicator that the 5th wheel was locked closed. I have seen a 5th wheel lock while bobtailing around and nothing was wrong with the 5th wheel.
The old timers on this board WILL help you, but not with an attitude like yours!!! Seems like you have pissed off most people on 2 websites, and don't think what 1 driver makes is the same pay all over the state of GA.
This is why the experienced driver has a problem with new drivers, alot of them are changing careers and think they know it all!!!!!

[devildice]

Henboy!!

So, you spent some time in college, did you?? You studied the sciences and mathematics. I always though that you had to have a least a few English courses in order to graduate. I don't know of many professors who would waste their time trying to make sense of your mumbo-jumbo.

I hope that your skills as a driver exceed your skills as a writer, but I highly suspect that they do not.

I skimmed through a few points, but I refuse to waste my time trying to decipher your gibberish. For one thing, learn write in paragraphs.

Your driving career can't be all too time consuming, as you must have spent the last several days pounding out your postings, and you could easily occupy a couple more days correcting all of your grammatical and syntax errors.

As to the believability of what you wrote?? I can't say; I refuse to spend my time trying to make any sense of your illiterate ramblings!!

As for the pro's who actually know what they are doing being unwilling to help?? I've not found that to be true at all. You are just miffed because they won't tell you what you want to hear. What I find even more laughable is that you encourage the noobs to eschew the advice of experienced drivers and O/O's, while wanting to be the new ring leader of the "Blind Noob Leading Other Blind Noobs" crowd.

ROTFLMAO.....

Very well said Useless

[Useless]

Is there a condensed version of this post on CD by any chance... :?

I have some very good news for you!! As a matter of fact, there is!!

It's a condenced CD version of a book entitled "War And Peace"!!

[Deus]

DEUS wote:
“If his story is true it is scary to think that there may be people like that out on the road.

How on earth he got the fifth wheel jaws to close without being hooked to the trailer.... And he was backing up to the kingpin with them closed?

How did he even get his CDL?….”

DEUS, in response to your comment above did you read the specifics of the whole story on the refresher course or what specifically they teach?CDL school taught me how to couple and so did the refresher course.Trying to couple that trailer wasn’t my fault as I thought it was.Have you ever tried coupling a trailer with the jaws in the locked position?Would you know what the problem is at that time?How did I get my CDL?I received mine 2 yrs ago from Dalys truck driving school.I did everything right in coupling just that my confidence was low.

No I didn' tread your whole story. And no I have never tried to hook to a trailer with the jaws closed, you see they need to be open in order for you to hook up. When I first got to CDL school I was amazed at how easy it was to hook a trailer. And yes it was your fault, you lacked the knowledged required to do the job.

I must admit I've never looked to make sure the jaws are open before hooking up, but I sure as hell would notice that the pin was in. That is one thing that you should have noticed right away.

[yoopr]

War and Peace is right :P

[Double R]

Here, someone shorten for us:

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:04 pm Post subject:

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I'll shorten it down for you guys:

Basically, it's the story of a typical moron who couldn't hack it in the corporate IT world. Upon finding himself down-n-out in Atlanta with nary a pot to piss in, our hero decides to enroll in CDL school to drive the big rigs. Unable to land a local job, he concocts the briliant idea of buying a 7 year old Ebay extended cargo van from some guy in Detroit. He gets ripped off, does some stupid things, buys a bigger truck, gets ripped off again, does some more stuipd things, and ends up hauling for a cheap-ass container company for 1.02 cents/mile with a 25% FSC and no health insurance\bennies for his new family. His next step (downward) is to get his own authority. All of this, mind you, with a whopping 2 months experience under his belt.

Best make space in the soup line...

[HeavyChevy]

lol double r very well said.i been driving for about 10 years and this guy happened to outdo me in 2 months.bought a truck,is gonna have his own authority and my personal favorite line.he will not take advice from experienced professionals,all newbies should make a stand LOL.after reading this i felt as though i logged on a comic relief site.

[yoopr]

ok boys-simmer down

[Useless]

ok boys-simmer down

Well Yooper!!

As far as the name calling is concerned, I agree with you, but only because flame wars and name calling result in locked threads here, and rightfully so!! At the same time, it's hard to fault these guys for telling the truth!!

I'm pretty severely dyslexic, and when I tried to read Henboy 1's original post, the eye strain and the brain strain honestly reached a point where it simply wasn't worth my effort to read this thing start to finish.

I did glean enough to see that this guy seems like a rolling disaster waiting to happen, and all the while, he is encouraging other noobs to disregard the counsel of the experienced drivers, and be a part of his Happy Band of Merry Makers.

For all the time that was required to read his post, (and, BTW, I applaud those who had the patience to do so!!) it seems to me that Henboy deserves his comeuppance.!!

[yoopr]

I always say Live and Learn

[marcel27208]

Im an owner operator and i drive local and make more than 1.02 per mile and sure wouldnt settle for 25% fsc!! companies that dont pay 100% fsc are rip offs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1.02 isnt much to brag about

[mike3fan]

our company pays 25% fsc,which means its 25% of the linehaul rate,who knows if it is 100% of what they charge the customer.

[kc0iv]

......bought a truck,is gonna have his own authority.......

Wait till he trys to get insurance. I just can't wait to hear what his story will be.

Or he has his DOT 1st meeting.

To Useless
I was bored and not only read his post but also read them on layover.com. Having read thousands of post I have to say this one takes the cake. Poster after poster has tried to tell him the truth. Yet, he goes his own way.

I just hope others don't try to follow his lead.

kc0iv

[Useless]

Thanks, kcOiv!!

Regarding the quote that was attributed to me..."he bought a truck, and was gonna have his own authority,"...I don't recall stating that; I think that those were the words of someone else.

EDITED: That quote came from "Heavy Chase". BTW, an excellent posting, H.C.!!

Having said that, kcOiv, I completely support your assessment and observations!!

Stay Cool!! 8)

[henboy1]

Ssoutlaw wrote:
Just the sound alone should have been an indicator that the 5th wheel was locked closed. I have seen a 5th wheel lock while bobtailing around and nothing was wrong with the 5th wheel.

My fifth wheel had a problem but the jaws locking was not the issue.The jaws locking was probably from me playing with the handle when I first bought the truck.The main problem that I had fixed on the fifth wheel was the worn out crunch pins that holds the plate to the fifth wheel itself.This was causing a play.My fifith wheel never makes a sound when it couples with the kingpin and I do understand what you mean.The only sound I heard from a fifith wheel was the single axle FORD L9000 we had at the the refresher course.

Devildice wrote:

As for the pro's who actually know what they are doing being unwilling to help?? I've not found that to be true at all. You are just miffed because they won't tell you what you want to hear. What I find even more laughable is that you encourage the noobs to eschew the advice of experienced drivers and O/O's, while wanting to be the new ring leader of the "Blind Noob Leading Other Blind Noobs" crowd.

Have you never seen a post on Layover.com about a Newbie trying to buy a truck or get into a lease purchase program?Please do a search and see how people like ICANTINATURNER,BIGJOE and TNDRIVER rips them apart all the time by using words like “stupid”.Is that now fair for a civilized forum of that kind?Please do a search for words like “newbie” or “lease purchase program”.

Deus wrote:
I must admit I've never looked to make sure the jaws are open before hooking up, but I sure as hell would notice that the pin was in. That is one thing that you should have noticed right away.

You are very right Deus.I did lack that knowledge to check the handle to see if it was in or out.You know what, I did learn from that mistake.

Marcel27208 wrote:
Im an owner operator and i drive local and make more than 1.02 per mile and sure wouldnt settle for 25% fsc!! companies that dont pay 100% fsc are rip offs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1.02 isnt much to brag about.

25% fuel surcharge means 25% x the mileage pay.For example 25%FSC x 300 miles run =375.
I never did brag about how much I made but it was rather a statement.I am new and I will learn the ropes in distinguishing between chap pay and top pay.


Hey guys let me get serious with the thread that I started.
I opened up a flood gate for newbies to go through and all I see is pro truckers coming at me with their axes,spears and sickles all because of how I went through the “back door” to get in.
I WILL NOT RESPOND TO ANYMORE PRO TRUCKER COMMENTS BUT RATHER A NEWBIE AND HOPEFULLY A NEWCOMER LIKE ME WILL HAVE GUTS TO COME DISCUSS THIS POST THAT WAS DESIGNATED FOR US.