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Those idiots in Minnesota voted in a muslim to Congress. Soon we will all be carrying AK-47's around when we go shopping so a high capacity clip is important. :wink:
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Originally Posted by Niagarafallss1
What couldn't you do (gun related) in 2000 that you could do in 1991?
Seriously.
:?:
Yeah basing your choice on who you vote for on who might let you strap an UZI to your hip or brandish that full auto AK-47 complete with a "BANANA CLIP" might not be the best criteria for voting :wink:
Jeep, do you know ANYTHING about firearms, firearms laws, or NFA Class 3 licenses?
Not much....But I have no need ,As I have no interest in guns of any kind .
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1/2 off BANANA CLIPS with a fill up at your local 7/ll... OH THANK ALAH 7/11.
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Sorry you are wrong. Ardmore Farms has a stainless steel hardhat. In fact it's top of the line.
But he does have underground nuclear shelter built into his 18-wheeler.
kc0iv
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[quote="kc0iv"]FIN TOIL RATS? WHAT?..PLEASE SAY AGAIN...YOU'LL HAVE TO SPEAK UP....!!!
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As I sit here and watch Pelosi on tv, the only thing I can think of is a certain 4 letter word that starts with a C and ends with a T .
God am I gonna get tired of seeing this woman.
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I just don't think it will be a long reign. The Democrats will now be expected to pony up and fix the things they've been whining about for the past several years. When it doesn't happen (and it won't), I think you'll see a huge surge in the popularity of Independents.
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You can't be serious. Will any Democratic sponsored bill that gets past the Senate be signed, or is veto GWB's new word for the day?
They are doomed from the start. The people wanted change of power, but this is largely procedural. Some actual checks and balances are in order, but that's about it.
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Yeah and I know what that means...
(as I search for a new place to hide my piggy bank)
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See my above post, please.
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Well, T/F,
The problem with independent candidates boils down to money and campaign funding. The only way they can get elected is to have the financial backing to wage a viable campaign. Regardless of their political leanings, they still have to compete with the political ATM machines that fund the Republicans and the Democrats.
Are there a few exceptions?? Yes!! Are there enough exceptions to make a serious dent in the two party system?? Though it dismays me to say it, the answer is "No!!" At the same time, I do think that the new political balance will offer a new-found strength an influence within the moderate faction of both parties.
Given the shift in the political winds, and the alterations in the balance of power on Capitol Hill, The president has clearly lost a substantial part of his political base. His political capitol has been spent. This is clearly indicated by the fact that Rumsfeld is out, and with the Republicans loosing effective control of the Senate, I think that the days ahead will prove that Cheney's influence has been severely marginalized.
The way I see it, the outcome of the 2008 elections will depend upon a number of different factors, but the two most critical factors will be Nancy Pelosi's leadership as Speaker of The House, and Bush's ability and willingness to operate within a bi-partisan environment and political climate.
The Democrats will now have a commanding leadership in Congress, but that degree of leadership will not be as strong as the Democrats might hope for, nor will it be as strong as the Republicans might fear. As you pointed out, (and where I strongly agree with you!!) is that the Democrats will now be under the gun to produce some viable alternatives in addressing the issues that brought them into power. So far, that has not happened, but now that the political landscape is clearer, their prospects for doing that may well be stronger than we might imagine, IF Pelosi is willing to lead congress from more of a centrist position.
Given the new political balance of The Senate, The House will be forced to operate from more of a Center standpoint, or else none of their efforts will make it through the senate. Remember, a few of the new Senators Elect are Conservative Democrats. IF Nancy Pelosi is willing to back off of her hard left-leaning positions, then we could see the house come up with alternatives that could get past the Senate, and reach the President's desk.
Does Bush still have the power of the veto pen?? Certainly he does, but unless he uses it in a judicious fashion, he will be seen as an obstructionist lame duck President, and that could come back to haunt the Republicans in 2008. Remember, no legislation reaches his desk without being approved by the Senate.
Given the new and delicate balance of power in the Senate, I think that the moderates are in a position to let their new found strength be known. On the othe hand if Nancy Pelosi insists upon bearing too hard to the left, then she will be seen as an ineffective leader, and the Democrats will be seen as failing to provide viable solutions to the issues that they illuminated, so the potential repercussions that they risk facing are also very strong.
As for Bush's ability to work in a bi-partisan environment, as much as I disapprove of him as President, I will applaud him and credit him for being a successful Governor here in Texas, where he had no alternative but to work in the spirit of bi-partisanship. Unlike many other states, here in Texas, The Governor is more of a figurehead. The real political leadership roll, and the true political power here in Texas rests within The Office of The Lieutenant Governor. When Bush was first elected Governor of Texas, The Lieutenant Governor was a staunch and powerful Democrat named Bob Bullock. The the halls of the state legislature were solidly in the hands of The Democrats.
Bush and Bullock worked extremely well together, and some good things were accomplished. In point of fact, when Bush sought a second term as Governor, Bullock endorsed him and actively supported him!! So, with Rumsfeld gone, the political balance shifted, and Cheney's influence in the oval office more than decimated, Bush should be in a position to operate in a more bi-partisan atmosphere, and the outcome of this mid-term election could well prove to be very positive an highly productive. Governor George W. Bush's ability to operate as a strong and effective Bi-Partisan leader has already been proven; President George W. Bush's willingness to operate in that same spirit of bi-partisanship remains to be seen.
What will happen in 2008?? I think that the outcome will be determined by how well Bush and Pelosi handle their roles.
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