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    Lets say that you have two drivers who work at the same company. Both drivers have the same amount of experience. Driver A averages 3,200 miles per week, while Driver B only averages 2,200 miles per week.

    What is Driver A doing to make himself more productive than Driver B?

    Just looking for some tips to help myself and other new drivers be as productive as possible.

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    Default Re: Succesful Drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by larryh31
    Lets say that you have two drivers who work at the same company. Both drivers have the same amount of experience. Driver A averages 3,200 miles per week, while Driver B only averages 2,200 miles per week.

    What is Driver A doing to make himself more productive than Driver B?

    Just looking for some tips to help myself and other new drivers be as productive as possible.
    Assuming both drivers have the chance of getting the same types of loads then driver B is wasting his time. As a driver told me years ago -- The best thing to do is keep the left door shut and drive. You will find each time you stop it will cost you about 30 minutes ( or longer). Even that stop in the rest area can cost an easy 15 minutes. When you stop try to plan your stops so you can do several things when you make that stop.

    Another area that will cost you time is not planing your trip well. If your not required to follow given route you may find going 30 miles farther may save you time. A good example is a trip from Kansas City to Chicago. You can go through St. Louis which is the shortest route. But you then have to drive through St. Louis plus drive through a 55 MPH state for half the trip. That same trip through Des Moines where where most of the trip has a higher speed limit and a lot less traffic.

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    Great question.

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    That's good advice, left door shut and keep moving. I agree totally. When I drove OTR, I found that my miles greatly increased when I decided to focus on driving, and stop making stupid stops. I used to make my own sandwiches when I got up in the morning. It would cost me an extra 15minues in the morning, but save me time in the long run. It's amazing how much time you can burn up just looking for a parking spot at a truck stop. Trip planning for me was a lifesaver. Bad planning equals bad miles, period. Driving truck is like any other production-based job, you get out of it exactly what you put in. Plus, when you're making decent money it's much more enjoyable!

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    It really all comes down to time management.

    Rest when you can. If you do not have to be on the dock then use that time to rest and relax.

    Keep up with things like keeping the truck clean, paperwork etc. A few minutes here and there can save hours later.

    Plan your trip. Try to fuel first thing in the morning or last thing at night. Know where you are going to stop for the night. Figure out the best compromise between time and miles if possible.

    Take a break or two through out the day. A couple of short breaks can go a long way towards your long term consistancy.

    Get a routine going for everything you can from what you do when you take a break, stop for the day, load/unload, hooking/unhooking a trailer, etc. Doing something the same way everytime breeds efficiency and helps eliminate mistakes.

    Take the time to do a good pretrip and post trip inspection everyday. Many problems you can find with a good inspection and it often takes a lot less time to get things fixed at a time of your choosing then on the side of the road.
    Finding the right trucking company is like finding the right person to marry. I really comes down to finding one whose BS you can put up with and who can put up wih yours.

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    Good answers! 8)

    But.... , i believe, it's only one side of a story!
    First, you've got to get those miles, i mean you've got to get on a good list, with the people, who control the miles.

    And that doesn't mean, "kissing butt"! :P

    You've got to be a "Professional", and that means, you've got to take a little pride, of what you are doing.

    You've got to be on time, a 100% of a time, if it depends on you, and communicate with the reasons, if it's beyond your control.

    Treat everybody, you are dealing with, with respect, but be firm, and don't let to push you around!(that's a tricky one )

    Always worked for me...and in a 32 years, of my driving career, in any company, i've worked for, i've always was in a top 10% earners! 8)
    Pessimist,- is just well informed optimist!

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    Thanks for the advice. I will definitely follow your suggestions.

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    Default Re: Succesful Drivers

    The 3,200 mile driver isn't setting his PTA out past 10 hours. I don't want to be driving a bizillion miles so I set my PTA out past 10 hours quite often. I'm single, don't have kids or high bills so I don't have to kill myself laying down 3,500+ miles per week. PTA=Projected Time of Availability.

    No I'm not a lazy driver but have asthma and like some time off to regain my breathing ability. Other drivers drive illegally also and they have more than one log book.

    Although, with 65 mph trucks unless you have a lot of wait time at shippers and receivers you should be able to lay down 3,200 miles per week.

    So set PTA for only 10 hours [required hours to sit] and hope you don't sit long period of time at shippers and receivers.

    ALSO IF YOU KEEP THE DRIVER'S DOOR SHUT-YOU'LL MAKE THE MILES. NO MATTER HOW SLOW THE TRUCK GOES. DON'T MAKE MANY STOPS DURING THE DAY AND THE DRIVER'S DOOR STAYS SHUT.

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    Seeing this is a Hypothetical my answer to your question would be that the Driver getting more miles is because he had a good relationship with his dispatcher and took some crappy loads for the Dispatch and the Dispatcher rewarded him with some choice loads. That's what normally happens for company drivers who don't have the Attitude and not afraid to help out the company every once in awhile-It usually pays off in the Long run.

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    Just dont overdo it...You need to break at least every 5 hrs, preferably 3-4, do your streches,have a fridge with food ready for a great snack while sitting in the sleeper, or on the rest-area bench or while walking the trail at the rest area. When I went OTR this was like therapy for me. If you stay out of truck stops for breaks, you avoid extra stress and getting pissed at poor service and food. You save time and avoid the hassle....Good food and fresh air works wonders in 15 mins.

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    man, as a recruiter, I get yelled at by drivers for answering this question the same way you drivers do.

    You forgot the important part of the answer.....Driver B will usually quit after a few weeks and spend a lifetime trying to convince other drivers that the reason he didnt get any miles was because of some other reason other than perhaps he just wasnt running smart. Oh yeah....and the recruiter lied to him. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
    man, as a recruiter, I get yelled at by drivers for answering this question the same way you drivers do.

    You forgot the important part of the answer.....Driver B will usually quit after a few weeks and spend a lifetime trying to convince other drivers that the reason he didnt get any miles was because of some other reason other than perhaps he just wasnt running smart. Oh yeah....and the recruiter lied to him. :P
    Now Sheepdance surely your not going to tell us that recruiter don't lie. We all know some will say anything to get some to sign on the dotted line. But I do feel most will tell the truth. The biggest problem I see is most drivers heard what they want to heard. Not what is said. The other problem I see driver's don't know what they want. They don't ask question. Then when things don't go the way they thought it would it's the recruiter who lied to him.

    Just having some fun with you Sheepdance.

    Have a great day.

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    It boils down to "time management" as mentioned and the willingness to "get it done". Don't be late, "on time" is late.
    Bad weather gets bad drivers off the road...one way or another!
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    Quote Originally Posted by larryh31
    Lets say that you have two drivers who work at the same company. Both drivers have the same amount of experience. Driver A averages 3,200 miles per week, while Driver B only averages 2,200 miles per week.

    What is Driver A doing to make himself more productive than Driver B?

    Just looking for some tips to help myself and other new drivers be as productive as possible.
    This question should stay at the top of this forum for new drivers to see.

    I have been a company driver, operations manager, broker, and now own warehouse trucking company and brokerage. I constantly ask my dispatchers this same question. Two drivers have the same truck run the same freight should work the same days yet one gets miles, therefore money and the other gets fewer miles, less money and has more problems. All of the answers here are things that a new driver should write down and practice. Some times dispatch and loadplanners shaft drivers and I know that. But if any driver is unreliable, he will not get the best freight (an unreliable driver is calling me now). Unreliable drivers cause companies to lose customers. My advice is to do the things others listed, always do what you commited to or communicate when you cant, dont over commit, BE SAFE, RUN LEGAL (its your license and our lives), HAVE FUN and LEARN LEARN LEARN. Good Luck and again that was a great question!

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    Thanks to all of you on some GREAT advice. I printed it to show to my classmates. It really comes down to common sense as well, tick off your dispatcher/employer or are continually late with excuses or are rude to customers or are not willing to go that extra mile for your Co/dispatcher don't expect those additional miles. Thanks again. (And thanks for the chuckle Sheepdancer )
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    I will add 2 cents here as well: When I was still driving, I was hitting all the miles I could legally, and that meant 2 breaks, both at rest areas, and don't screw around being a truck stop cowboy. I would get my feet on the floor of the sleeper at 4 am typically, and grab a thermos of coffee and a bite to eat, then hammer down. Stop at a rest area and check load around 8 am, then again at noon, and then I am looking ahead for the stopping point. I was in, fueled, and showered long before the evening rush, I had my hours and miles down...and I could eat my evening meal and relax for the next day, without any stress. Of course, this was flatbedding, coast to coast...all long runs, but you get the idea. Stay out of the truck stops til it is time to park it. They are the biggest waste of time in a trucker's day.

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    Age old question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kc0iv
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
    man, as a recruiter, I get yelled at by drivers for answering this question the same way you drivers do.

    You forgot the important part of the answer.....Driver B will usually quit after a few weeks and spend a lifetime trying to convince other drivers that the reason he didnt get any miles was because of some other reason other than perhaps he just wasnt running smart. Oh yeah....and the recruiter lied to him. :P
    Now Sheepdance surely your not going to tell us that recruiter don't lie. We all know some will say anything to get some to sign on the dotted line. But I do feel most will tell the truth. The biggest problem I see is most drivers heard what they want to heard. Not what is said. The other problem I see driver's don't know what they want. They don't ask question. Then when things don't go the way they thought it would it's the recruiter who lied to him.

    Just having some fun with you Sheepdance.

    Have a great day.

    kc0iv
    Sure...ive seen a few recruiters fired for lying. People in every walk of life lie. Ive said this before. Im lied to drivers on a daily basis WAY MORE than you drivers are lied to by recruiters. But I would never say some generalization like "All drivers lie"
    The point was this....If I tell a driver what the AVERAGE pay is and he is a below average driver and doesnt make that pay. Of course hes going to call me a liar before admitting he just sucked at the job. Thats just human nature.

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    Keeping success at the top!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uturn2001
    Get a routine going for everything you can from what you do when you take a break, stop for the day, load/unload, hooking/unhooking a trailer, etc. Doing something the same way everytime breeds efficiency and helps eliminate mistakes.
    I agree with you 100%, but how is it possible to get into a routine, when being an OTR driver is not a 9 to 5 job, with appointment times during all hours of the day and night?

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