1st offense

[kreeper01]

I might as well get this off my chest.

Yes, i did have an accident in a C.R. England Truck, it happened up in Ogden, Utah. on 10/28/2003. I left the company as of 11/07/2003. The b***ards had the gaul to slap it on my DAC on 10/18/2004, almost 1 year after i left the company.

In my honest opinion, that is a major screw job if i ever saw one. According to section 391.15 of the Safety Regulations handbook, i am suppose to spend exactly 365 days off the road from the time of the accident is reported to the company and or the police. This is my first and only CDL driving offense, my MVR is clean as a whistle, my DAC isn't so clean. However, this accident happened at the Pilot there in Ogden, Utah. which has an L shaped parking lot to the left after you come out of the fuel island. It was a small lot and i took it as wide as the lot would allow me to make that left hander. Someone PLEASE explain me why i have to wait 2 years to get another driving job for a 1 year offense :?:

[Littlepete]

There is something more to your accident than you are telling.

Most drivers will have some sort of accident in the first year.
Busted mirror, bent rim on a curb, backed into a post or some little thing.
They keep working and can find a job.

If you roll it over, hit a bridge, kill a family of four, things like that that can stop your career.

In this post you said you have a clean MVR.
In another you said:
A few Owner Operators have been calling me lately, some ask for 1 year.
Some others ask for a clean MVR, I do not have that either.

Which is it?

There are all sorts of company's who dont use Dac. For that matter there is dump trucking concrete trucks. And all sorts of local work that also doesnt use Dac. I agree with the above poster. Something just doesnt add up here. 2+2 just isnt equaling 4.

[kreeper01]

The trailer i was pulling clipped the right front corner of a parked rig, i did not know it clipped his rig until i looked in my mirror.

To clean up any mis-conceptions, it was this accident i was involved in that is preventing me from getting another driving job, i am not bothering with any local work. Alot of companies will look at my DAC before anything else, all i am saying is look at the dates, i left the company on 11/07/2003, the accident was received by DAC on 10/18/2004, almost 1 year after i left C.R. England.

To add insult to injury, England had the gaul to email me to submit an application on there web site...it is like all the major trucking companies trying to hire me...its not gonna happen, END OF DISCUSSION :!: :!: :!:

[yoopr]

damn

The trailer i was pulling clipped the right front corner of a parked rig, i did not know it clipped his rig until i looked in my mirror.

I don't see how that would affect you getting a job! Unless you just totally destroyed the guys rig. Most of us in one point or time have hit someone else while parking or trying to pull out.

I am not bothering with any local work.

Well I hope you are independently wealthy then. And don't have a family to support. There is not a thing wrong with local work. And it most cases it pays alot better than OTR. Good luck I have the feeling your going to need it.

[kreeper01]

I don't see how that would affect you getting a job! Unless you just totally destroyed the guys rig. Most of us in one point or time have hit someone else while parking or trying to pull out.

I did not completely destroy his rig, just clipped the right front corner...i.e. bumper, headlight and right front corner of the grill.

Well I hope you are independently wealthy then. And don't have a family to support. There is not a thing wrong with local work. And it most cases it pays alot better than OTR. Good luck I have the feeling your going to need it.

Not wealthy by any means, i am stuck doing temporary work which stinks royally. Some of the local companies where i live ask for a minimum of 1 year OTR, therefore i am up a crap creek without the paddle and boat.

[kreeper01]

I don't see how that would affect you getting a job! Unless you just totally destroyed the guys rig. Most of us in one point or time have hit someone else while parking or trying to pull out.

I can see your point about getting another job, what i am saying is with a CDL, its hard to get "A job". I was trained on getting a "Specific job".

Well I hope you are independently wealthy then. And don't have a family to support. There is not a thing wrong with local work. And it most cases it pays alot better than OTR. Good luck I have the feeling your going to need it.

I am not wealthy by any means, i do not have a family of my own and with a out-of-state CDL, it will get really hard to get a local trucking job.
With luck, i need more than luck, i need a miracle. :sad:

I can see your point about getting another job, what i am saying is with a CDL, its hard to get "A job". I was trained on getting a "Specific job".

Well I have no clue where you live but in my area concrete truck companys are always looking. And we work year around here. Most offer 401k, insurance. Plus mine also offers besides my 7 paid holidays I get 15 personal days off per year to use as I see fit to use them. And most will train you in the operation of the concrete truck. Oh yea besides the 401k I also get profit shareing.

[Uturn2001]

The real problem may be how much total experience you have or how honest you are when listing this accident on your applications.

If you have less than 1 year experience and have not driven a truck since you left CR England then that may be where you are hitting a brick wall.

A few questions that may help sort this out.

1. Did you recieve any type of citations for this accident?
2. Do you have any citations at all on your MVR?
3. What does your DAC say about the accident?
4. Did you stop as soon as you realized you hit the other truck or did you try to hightail it out of there?
5> how much OTR experience do you have?
6. Have you driven at all since leaving CR England?

Sorry if these questions seem too personal, but the answers may shed some light.

[yoopr]

I don't see how that would affect you getting a job! Unless you just totally destroyed the guys rig. Most of us in one point or time have hit someone else while parking or trying to pull out.

I did not completely destroy his rig, just clipped the right front corner...i.e. bumper, headlight and right front corner of the grill.

Well I hope you are independently wealthy then. And don't have a family to support. There is not a thing wrong with local work. And it most cases it pays alot better than OTR. Good luck I have the feeling your going to need it.

Not wealthy by any means, i am stuck doing temporary work which stinks royally. Some of the local companies where i live ask for a minimum of 1 year OTR, therefore i am up a crap creek without the paddle and boat.

Tell me if i'm wrong but it seems to me that you think this is no big deal?

[kreeper01]

The real problem may be how much total experience you have or how honest you are when listing this accident on your applications.

Uturn, if i do post the accident on my online application, the other trucking companies will not touch me, even if it is over 1 year old.

If you have less than 1 year experience and have not driven a truck since you left CR England then that may be where you are hitting a brick wall.

Yes, i do have less than 1 year experience, and i did drive for Transport America in the Summer of 2004, however, i have not drove within the last 8 months which is hurting me even worse.

A few questions that may help sort this out.

1. Did you recieve any type of citations for this accident?
2. Do you have any citations at all on your MVR?
3. What does your DAC say about the accident?
4. Did you stop as soon as you realized you hit the other truck or did you try to hightail it out of there?
5> how much OTR experience do you have?
6. Have you driven at all since leaving CR England?

Sorry if these questions seem too personal, but the answers may shed some light.

Answer 1. No tickets since it happen on private property, Pilot in Ogden, Ut.

Answer 2. No Citations, my MVR is clean.

Answer 3. My DAC does not provide much info, All England stated is that i had an Unsatisfactory Safety Record due to hitting a parked vehicle.

Answer 4. Yes i did stop once i realized i hit the other truck.

Answer 5. I have exactly 6 months experience.

Answer 6. I did drive for Transport America this past summer, which was 8 months ago to the day.


No offense taken Uturn, at least i honestly answered them.

[kreeper01]

Tell me if i'm wrong but it seems to me that you think this is no big deal?

Yoopr, i am not gonna lie to you stating if you are right or wrong.

In a sense, it is a big deal to me, i'd like to get back into a truck and start driving again. However, with that accident on my DAC report, none of the other trucking companies will not touch me and me being out of a truck for the past 8 months, it is hurting me even worse.

Somebody please help me, i'd like to drive again.

[Uturn2001]

You need to list this on your application. Put something like Hit parked vehicle. Preventable. If you do not list it on your application and when your DAC report comes back your application will be canned.

You may need to either go with a training company again and/or take a refresher course. I find it hard to believe that one accident and an otherwise clean record is keeping anyone from hiring you, unless you are setting your sights a little too high.

Have you tried JB Hunt by any chance? I know somone with limited experience hired by them who had 3 incidents on their DAC.

[Scoe]

Yes, i do have less than 1 year experience, and i did drive for Transport America in the Summer of 2004, however, i have not drove within the last 8 months which is hurting me even worse.


Perhaps the thing that is also holding you back is this experience with Transport America this past summer. What happened there and why did you not stay with them?

[kreeper01]

Perhaps the thing that is also holding you back is this experience with Transport America this past summer. What happened there and why did you not stay with them?

I asked for home time to see the dentist, once i got home, i get a call from HQ asking why i am back home. I told them why and what for, next thing i heard was that i am fired.

I asked them for home time because my teeth were killing me and were keeping me awake all day and all night. To add insult to injury, my trainer wanted me to pull over all because i missed an exit i was suppose to take and never allowed me to drive again, even when i did ask. I spent 5 weeks of my time with this company.

[kreeper01]

You need to list this on your application. Put something like Hit parked vehicle. Preventable. If you do not list it on your application and when your DAC report comes back your application will be canned.

As i stated before, no other company will touch me, no matter how honest i am. I can post it on the application, tell them over the phone. They will say to me, we will call you when we need you.

You may need to either go with a training company again and/or take a refresher course. I find it hard to believe that one accident and an otherwise clean record is keeping anyone from hiring you, unless you are setting your sights a little too high.

I cannot afford to take a refresher course, i do not have the time or the money right now, all the money i am earning is going to pay off some overdue bills. I am not setting my sights to high, i tell all the companies what happen, they give me the shaft in return.

Have you tried JB Hunt by any chance? I know somone with limited experience hired by them who had 3 incidents on their DAC.

J.B. Hunt did call me, they wanted to hire me, however, i did not list the accident on my online application, they found out through running my DAC. They canned my application right then and there.

[kreeper01]

Well, i did update my online application. I know for a solid fact i will not get hired by any other trucking company.

I begged, pleaded, did a little bit of butt kissing for the past 8 months to no avail.

I might as well shred my CDL and just get a local job, it isn't even worth my time just sitting around waiting for another trucking job to come along
:? :sad: :x

That is one of your mistakes right there. Not disclosing the accident. There probably would have been a good chance of them hiring you if you had told them up front. Its seems to be the norm now days I had an accident and I lied on my application trying to hide it or I have a drug conviction or I failed a pee test why wont someone hire me. It is just getting a tad rediculas. If I lie or did any of the above things I would thank my lucky stars if McDonalds would hire me.

[warsaw]

I hear the same things..Its a touchy job for the first few year ..so anything you do is going to bite you in the rears