Mexican truck drivers taking over!

[PackRatTDI]

You know what they say about making ASSumptions.

So then why are you making them?

Goin Fer It's Wife

I stated I'm not buying into the whole destruction of American scenario. That's not an assumption, that's an opinion.

Yea, I've seen this "rat" guy posting on other forums. He's some Mexican that hates America and all things American. He's called people racists when they state they don't want Mexicans taking their jobs!

No, I called the derrogatory statements you made about Mexicans racist. Don't try to twist the facts pal.

This "Ratman" is THE ENEMY WITHIN!

The only enemy here is ignorance.

[Goin Fer It]

and he drives a tour bus full of Mexicans.....What did you expect ???

Maybe he is here on a guest worker pass! Good to see you posting feeder!
Miss you on my thread!

Goin Fer It's Wife

[PackRatTDI]

and he drives a tour bus full of Mexicans.....What did you expect ???

Maybe he is here on a guest worker pass! Good to see you posting feeder!
Miss you on my thread!

Goin Fer It's Wife

Don't need one, I'm born and raised in the USA, thank you very much.

[Goin Fer It]

Yea, I've seen this "rat" guy posting on other forums. He's some Mexican that hates America and all things American. He's called people racists when they state they don't want Mexicans taking their jobs!

This "Ratman" is THE ENEMY WITHIN! This seems to be typical of these Mexicans who get into the US. They come for the money because they are too cowardly to fight for their own freedom and prosperity back in Mexico. They want a better life.. fine, effort in in Mexico That's why it's called Mexico cause Mexicans live there! (Or Should Be).

NAFTA MUST be recinded.... The Mexican part anyway!

Time to take a stand and say "This far and no farther"!

PackRatTDI

So are you in our country on a guest worker permit PackRat?

Goin Fer It's Wife

[Goin Fer It]

PackRatTDI

Do you feel that it is okay for illegals to come to this country illegally....not learn our language and break our economy? What makes you think your job is protected?

Goin Fer It's Wife

[RoadKing2525]

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No, I called the derrogatory statements you made about Mexicans racist. Don't try to twist the facts pal.

Since when did Mexican become a race? And yes there are many negative facts about Mexico, that's why it's called a "Third World" country. I don't want to live in Mexico... it' a cesspool, and I sure don't want all of Mexico moving here. I don't want their nastyness in America !

Mexicans have NO RIGHT to work in America, their Mexicans and need to be working in Mexico!

If you were an American you would understand that!

Just say no to Mexican drivers in America!

[PackRatTDI]

PackRatTDI

Do you feel that it is okay for illegals to come to this country illegally....not learn our language and break our economy? What makes you think your job is protected?

Goin Fer It's Wife

No I don't. But that's not the issue we're discussing. Mexican truck drivers asking for the same privileges granted to Canadian truck drivers for the transportation of freight has nothing to do with the illegal immigration issue.

As for "breaking" the economy, that depends on who you talk to and what agenda they are pushing.

[PackRatTDI]

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No, I called the derrogatory statements you made about Mexicans racist. Don't try to twist the facts pal.

Since when did Mexican become a race? And yes there are many negative facts about Mexico, that's why it's called a "Third World" country. I don't want to live in Mexico... it' a cesspool, and I sure don't want all of Mexico moving here. I don't want their nastyness in America !

Mexicans have NO RIGHT to work in America, their Mexicans and need to be working in Mexico!

If you were an American you would understand that!

Just say no to Mexican drivers in America!

Racism isn't relegated to just race, it also applies to ethnic backgrounds as well.

If Mexicans have the proper documentation, they have EVERY right to work in this country as any other foreign national with legal paperwork. That's the law. Don't like it? Tough.

As for my status, I don't need to prove my citizenship to you or any other jackass.

[RoadKing2525]

Don't need one, I'm born and raised in the USA, thank you very much.

This is what I'm talking about. This guy is born here but he is no American and never will be. He is Mexican full of hate for Americans! There are tens of millions just like him in this country flying our flag upside down, saying they want to ANNEX the Southwest to Mexico!. They are not Americans, they are the "enemy within"!

[Goin Fer It]

PackRatTDI

Look if you think Mexico is so great why don't you move down there instead of having America become a third world country.

Goin Fer It's Wife

[PackRatTDI]

PackRatTDI

Look if you think Mexico is so great why don't you move down there instead of having America become a third world country.

Goin Fer It's Wife

Look, I answered your question about illegal immigration in the hope that you wanted to have an intelligent, civil debate on the issue. However it's clear that you don't want to do so. So I'll leave you and roadking to come to whatever f*cking conclusion you want to.

[Goin Fer It]

Don't need one, I'm born and raised in the USA, thank you very much.

This is what I'm talking about. This guy is born here but he is no American and never will be. He is Mexican full of hate for Americans! There are tens of millions just like him in this country flying our flag upside down, saying they want to ANNEX the Southwest to Mexico!. They are not Americans, they are the "enemy within"!

I would not be surprised if he is here on a pass. My step-dad is of Mexican descent and so was my best friend in school and most Americans including those of Mexican descent do not want what is going on. My step-dad calls them wet backs and does not want them invading the country.

Goin Fer It's Wife

[RoadKing2525]

Lets keep in mind there is nothing n Mexico that is not faked, forged, or obtained thru bribes (mordida’s) It’s part of their culture to forge or fake every piece of documentation possible. They think of it as being smarter than the next guy not as something criminal, wrong or deceitful.

Mexican “Authorities” (who are drug smugglers and criminals) are probably looking forward to all the new bribes they will be getting from Mexican drivers flush with pesos! Remember Mexico is a third world country and by definition a nation of illiterate peasants. That’s what it means to be “Third World”. They can barely read in their own language much less English signs!

Wait until you go to pick up a trailer at a drop yard in say Iowa and the glad hand seals are missing and the trailer taillights are gone! Also, remember many narcotics ARE LEGAL in Mexico, i.e.. Cocaine amphetamines, etc. No drug testing, no medicals checks, no background checks, no driving history checks, nothing! These guys are all going to be hopped up on something! And remember these Mexicans are driving for .09 to .15 cent per mile taking OUR 1500 mile loads!

This is what Mary Peters (Transportation Secretary) said from OOida’s website:

The inspection teams also will check whether drivers have a valid commercial driver’s license, have a current medical certificate and can comply with U.S. hours-of-service rules.

Hah! What a crock! Here’s OOida’s response:

“They can’t confirm whether they are safe or not. The documentation doesn’t exist on driver experience, drug testing or anything else,” OOIDA President Jim Johnston said.Spencer said not only are U.S. regulations on Americans more stringent in terms of verifying that a driver has been tested, but U.S. licenses can also be verified to show driving history, violations and compliance of any vehicle driven going back even a decade or longer. When enforcement officials run a Mexican CDL, the only information he can access will be that of previous operation in the U.S., not Mexico where a driver might have a rap sheet as along as your arm.

Mexico has never had specific drug testing regulations or hours-of-service rules for its drivers that could be verified or enforced and still doesn’t.“There is simply no way anyone can know whether a truck driver coming from Mexico entering the U.S. has been awake two hours or two weeks when they clear the border,” he said.

”This is a traitorous act by our president. I see rebellion, uprisings, and chaos in America’s future!

[Cluggy619]

Look, y'all.

I don't have a problem with people crossing the boarder looking for work. If I was on the other side, I would too, and so would most of you. But that's NOT the problem as I see it.

The problem is the 100 trucking companies in Mexico being able to operate on US roads. Now, we all know that those trucking companies are sponsored by American trucking companies....Anybody know of a few? So now these companies have a unlimited resource at a very cheap price. All they have to offer is the ability to work in the US......most Mexican drivers would jump at the chance, even at .15 per mile. And you can bet they will run teams.

This is what bothers us all. So how can we stop it?

• 1st. Avoid any company who does business with a Mexican trucking outfit, even if they own it. To those who don't know what that means, you simply don't drive for them. And if you are working for a company who sponsor them, find another company who doesn't.
  
  2nd. Make it expensive for Mexican trucking companies to drive on US soil. Yes, this IS illegal. It means doing damage to trucks from Mexico. Flat tires, kingpins pulled, brakes out of adjustment, cut airlines, etc. If it's too expensive to run their trucks here, they will stop.
  
  3rd. If you see their trucks at a truck-stop, do whatever it takes to make them feel as UNWELCOME as you can. This too may be illegal, depending on the level you take it too.

Bottom line. It's your paycheck. And it is a war. This is what it is going to take before it stops.

Or change careers, and go into something that the US won't import a cheaper person to do.

Choice is yours.

[sweepwing]

I sincerely hope that everyone calls their reps and senators and complain about this. Addtionally, please sign the online petitions against this.

PLEASE do not waste your time with Packrat and his nonsense. He eventually calls anyone that disagrees with him a racist.

Call your representatives and senators tomorrow. I will.

[PackRatTDI]

PLEASE do not waste your time with Packrat and his nonsense. He eventually calls anyone that disagrees with him a racist.

Call your representatives and senators tomorrow. I will.

I only referred to the derrogatory remarks Roadking made on another forum as being racist. Please do not distort the facts.

Thank you.

[Cluggy619]

I saw this post....it's already started.....

How worried should the American truck driver be about cheap Mexican drivers,I heard Celadon is seriously looking at outsourcing their drivers
Mexican Drivers
Arguments against opening the border to Mexican trucks (and drivers) includes the fear that Mexican drivers will take American jobs.
Celadon to Utilize Mexican Drives to Save Money
(Indianapolis-November 22, 2004) -- Like many Hoosier manufacturers that go outside the country looking for cheaper labor, a local trucking company is about to utilize Mexican truck drivers to save money and boost its earnings in the future.

The move could increase Celadon Trucking's profits by as much as 80 cents a share within the next two years, according to President Thomas Glaser.

Glaser said the U.S. Dept. of Transportation is about to lift regulations that have previously restricted Mexican truckers from driving farther than 20 miles into the U.S. The rule has forced truckers to switch loads coming from Mexico with Mexican drivers, to trucks driven by American drivers, adding significantly to their expenses.

Celedon just comes out and says it, we're going to use them and we're going to make money because of the cheaper labor costs. The fear that Mexican drivers will take American jobs I think is a valid fear and not just propaganda put out by the union. American drivers that now haul stuff either directly from Mexico or from just across the border to it's final destination in the US will be replaced if Celedon gets it's wish.
Trucking firms like Celadon say they will save money and operate more efficiently with the restriction gone.[/url]

[scania]

ok,sorry just stumbled on it and it is an eye opener.....

[greg3564]

It means doing damage to trucks from Mexico. Flat tires, kingpins pulled, brakes out of adjustment, cut airlines, etc. If it's too expensive to run their trucks here, they will stop.

:shock: Dude! Those kinds of actions could unintentionally kill others on the road, maybe even you or your family. That's a little over the top.

[merrick4]

Here's what pisses me off on that.

Some *****HOLE approved to allowed 100 Mexican companies to roam here in the USA, while we have to wait to be approved to roam in Mexico.

What G@d D&mm F#cking **** Wh@rebag of a F#cking G@d D&mm Administration decided that this was a good idea?

I'll tell you. Those that the big companies here are sponsoring. This is nothing more than a ploy to lower truck drivers wages. That's it. Nothing more.

What can you do about it?

Stop working for those companies.

And by the way......it's dangerous on US roads....anything can happen to those Mexican rigs...... :twisted: :twisted:

Exactly. Stop working for these companies. It's sad but we have more power than you would think.