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    Default Fuel prices....thank a Republican.

    I would personally like to thank all of the people who voted for George Bush. Thank you for the high gas prices! Hopefully they double again before he leaves office. When gas finally reachs $8 to $10 a gal maybe then the american public will wake up and have an intervention for our addiction to foreign oil.

    Theres many reasons why the price of oil is rising. There are two ways to begin to solve the problem.

    1. An Apollo type project spearheaded by government leadership. It's a funny thought with this administration but might be possible in 2008.

    2. Gas prices of $10 a gal within the next two years. Public leverage on private business and political leadership will spawn investment in alternatives.

    Again...thank you George Bush and your oil cabinet! Were 1/3 of way to our goal! Keep up the great work in the New American Century!

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    KRWood I am sorry to say you are way off track on your estimates of high fuel prices.

    There are many variables that cause hi oil prices but the First and Foremost is:

    Supply and Demand.

    If you look at who is buying the most oil you will find China is leading the charge is buying in massive bulk. That in turn raises demands and lowers Supply. China is willing to purchase at premium price and give it to their population at lower prices.

    Having personal knowledge of the oil that is in the US we could pull enough oil out of the Williston Basin in North Dakota, South Dakota and Montana to keep us oil dependent for over 100 years. But with enviormental blockades put on by our own government and the taxes that are levyed it is no longer cost efficient.

    We have enough oil and knowledge to keep prices low, but ask the Government to suspend all the silly EPA rules and give tax breaks for alternative fuels and our problem would be solved.

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    Fact is, fuel was higher during the Carter years; 4.50/gal in 2006 dollars.

    Your job - thank a Republican.
    Brang it On!

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    why start another thread on Fuel when we already have one going?
    You're dilusional
    and has been stated China has gone from a Farming economy to an Industrialized Economy which has put a huge drain on Oil.
    You list 2 ways to change things but I didn't see any ideas.

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    Default Re: Fuel prices....thank a Republican.

    Quote Originally Posted by KRWOOD
    I would personally like to thank all of the people who voted for George Bush.
    Your welcome...........I would have voted for Johnny "Four Months" Kerry (did you know, he served in Vietnam?).........but, I think more of my country and I am certainly NOT that stupid.


    Quote Originally Posted by KRWOOD
    Hopefully they double again before he leaves office.
    I hope so to............then we can have a Congressional Investigation on these so-called "Enviormentalist Groups" who have kept us from drilling and exploration here at home.


    Quote Originally Posted by KRWOOD
    When gas finally reachs $8 to $10 a gal maybe then the american public will wake up and have an intervention for our addiction to foreign oil.
    See above

    Quote Originally Posted by KRWOOD
    Theres many reasons why the price of oil is rising.
    Since you have all the answers, how about giving us a brief explanation on WHY "Oil" prices have risen so drastically in the past few years.

    Quote Originally Posted by KRWOOD
    There are two ways to begin to solve the problem. Either on works.

    1. An Apollo type project spearheaded by government leadership.
    That in itself is a joke..........GOVERNMENT leadership.............what planet are you living on?

    Quote Originally Posted by KRWOOD
    Gas prices of $10 a gal within the next two years. Public leverage on private business and political leadership will spawn investment in alternatives.
    I will agree 100% with the private sector solving the problem...........with the government on the side-lines.

    So, I can assume, you DIDN'T vote or campaign for George W. Bush?

    KRWOOD...............just to show you I'm an "Equal Opportunity" offender............I'm a LIFE-LONG Democrat.

    Not bad, coming from a guy who is promoting a "get rich quick" business opportunity on his signature line.

    THIS "NO" QUOTE FEATURE........IS STARTING TO GET ON MY NERVES........... :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x

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    Gah...I don't think it is Bush's fault for high gas prices, as I don't think he was at fault durring the hurricanes. I am sure there is SOMETHING that he could do...but if it could only lower gas prices by a few cents per gallon it may not be worth it. We need to stop relying on fossil fuel...that is the only solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retirednavysnipe
    KRWood I am sorry to say you are way off track on your estimates of high fuel prices.

    There are many variables that cause hi oil prices but the First and Foremost is:

    Supply and Demand.

    If you look at who is buying the most oil you will find China is leading the charge is buying in massive bulk. That in turn raises demands and lowers Supply. China is willing to purchase at premium price and give it to their population at lower prices.

    Having personal knowledge of the oil that is in the US we could pull enough oil out of the Williston Basin in North Dakota, South Dakota and Montana to keep us oil dependent for over 100 years. But with enviormental blockades put on by our own government and the taxes that are levyed it is no longer cost efficient.

    We have enough oil and knowledge to keep prices low, but ask the Government to suspend all the silly EPA rules and give tax breaks for alternative fuels and our problem would be solved.
    I never stated what I think causes high gas prices! "Theres many reasons why the price of oil is rising."

    If your right and there is enough oil in the US to supply 100 years. What would be the price of this oil? Market price? Where is the savings?

    If the government suspended all regulations....why would oil companys floud the market with all of this oil only to lower the price? Sounds like bad business if I was a stock holder.

    We are addicted to oil! The oil companys are the pusher and the government is a cop taking a skim for looking the other way.

    The road to change is admiting we have a problem or an external event to force us to change. So I applaud the Republicans that run our government for creating an enironment for $4 gal gas. You know the Republicans that pass and keep all of these environmental laws on the books.

    By the way I did not vote for these God Dam....tree hugging, earth loving hippie, Republicans! But I will next time! Hecka of a job boys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRWOOD
    By the way I did not vote for these God Dam....tree hugging, earth loving hippie, Republicans! But I will next time! Hecka of a job boys!
    KRWOOD...........I have too admit......you have a way with words.

    Instead of driving those EVIL "Fossil Fuel" tractor-trailers.......maybe we can all become "Rickshaw Coolies"and FINALLY get off the dependence on "Big Bad Oil".
    Nevermind.......I think the "Republicans" are involved in the "Rickshaw Coolie" industry........and just waiting to exploit the "WORKING MAN" (Union word, they love using that word)...........and George W. Bush and family are in charge of the "Big Rickshaw Coolie" industry.

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    First, we could begin with hemp ........there are plenty of places to grow it,
    Yea..........I use to grow it years ago...........those "Hippies" still talk about how good it was..........sold it for over $100.00 per oz or as we called it, a "LID"............but, never made any "Oil" out of it.

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    Default Hempoline??

    The answers are not nearly as dificult as people make them out to be.

    First, we could begin with hemp oil, which was used before. It's clean, it's replenishable, there are plenty of places to grow it, there are no environmental consequences to developing it, and no, you won't get high off of the fumes!! 8)

    Of course, there would be no cartel to control it, and Bush's Buddies wouldn't get rich, so thee is probebly no chance in hell of it happening!! BTW, if you think the Democrats are any more trustworthy when it comes to energy policy, (as if we even HAVE an energy policy!!), then you have probably been breathing too many diesel fumes!!

    Useless

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    Default Oil

    Maybe it's bigger than political differences-
    could be geological:
    http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Index.html
    Scary stuff- even if only a little true
    Suck it up & drive on

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    I shudder to think what this country would be like if we let the DEMS do everything they wanna do. Socialization is what they want basically. I think this next Presidential election will be a golden opportunity for some independent candidate to really get his message accross. Start with shutting down the borders, Authorize the building of new refineries, get the US out of the UN, quit *****footing around in the middle east and turn the whole sumbitch into a huge parking lot, I could go on and if anyone runs on this kind of platform he?she will definately get my vote.

    I see Newt Ginrich(sp) starting to feel his way around and expect to see him on the ballot, John Mcain is also gonna be there anyone else come to mind...
    I don't think Hillary can even run...

    She's already served 2 terms LOL.................Don

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    The problem is not the price of oil or supply and demand. I really do appreciate high gas prices. I look forward to the coming increases.


    The problem is our how vulnerable we are by our economy being dependent on oil.

    Occasionally there's a post about lot lizards. Many of us judge them for their lifestyle and what they do to feed their addictions. How are we any different when it comes to our addiction to oil?

    Somebody has to stop the GOP with their environmental agenda before this country is owned by china.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenhornpeon

    Maybe it's bigger than political differences-
    could be geological:
    http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Index.html
    Scary stuff- even if only a little true
    A good point raised here. It is important to understand that there is no real "shortage" of oil. When I was a child, we were supposed to run out of oil in the mid 1970's. By 1970, it was the year 2000. Having said that, the demand for it will continue to increase as China continues to develop, and there will always be political forces, both foreign and domestic, that will affect the price.

    The truth be told, fossil fuels could well be on their way to general obsolescence if we began developing alternative fuel sources.

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    GOP and "Their" Environmental Policies? what the hell are you smoking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoopr
    GOP and "Their" Environmental Policies? what the hell are you smoking?
    The other thread "Fuel prices...thank a environmentalist" inspired me to start this one. If high fuel prices are caused by environmental policy then the republicans that control the house and senate are to blame.

    Republicans=environmental policy=high fuel prices.



    Sorry for the edit .....I had to clarify.

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    KRWOOD..... are you that stupid???

    Tree hugging, earth loving hippie Republicans????? Thats the other party there, the Democrats.

    Thank Bill Clinton for sending all the jobs over seas, Thank bill Clinton for China owning everything not Bush.

    I'm sorry but you just showed your stupidity to every educated person on this board and I thinks it "hillarious"!!!!!

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    Fuel Prices...thank a environmentalist= thank a rebublican.
    :withstupid:

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    Kinda dumfounded myself :P

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    First of all, blaming it on one group alone is not right and most certainly not the most correct. BUT I have to agree with the thread title just because it contradicts another thread that equally blames just one group!

    There are a lot of factors involved and the White house's poilcy is to let market forces dictate the push for alternate fuels. The white house thinks that we are stupid enough not to realize that they (all oil- men) had no idea it would come to this and that they do not profit.
    A lot of things could have been done, and most lof them should have been done YEARS ago.
    Public transportation including high speed trains are not an option for commuters...e.g a 'bullet' train going from houston to austin and San Antone, Tx ( i believe) were discussed some years ago and struck down due to resistance from the oil and airline industry. travel times would have been greatly reduced between the cities...
    Alternate fuels- the technology is available, and has been for years! Why is it not used widely in this country??? LOTS of reasons, mostly related to cost- gas was still the cheaper option.
    Demand- E.G CHINA- Traditional mode of transportation: Buses, trains, bikes and feet! Then someone realized: Doode, what a market for cars! and there we go. IRRESPONSIBLE GREED of big corportations and lack of oversight and planning by Govts. is THE big reason why we now pay what we pay :!:

    Theres no magic bullet, no drilling in places we had sought to spare will solve the problem, just defer it!!! the habits of consumers must be changed, with the help of the Govt. :!: :!:

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRWOOD
    Quote Originally Posted by yoopr
    GOP and "Their" Environmental Policies? what the hell are you smoking?

    Exactly! Environmental policy=government=rebuplicans! Thank a Republican for their environmental policy that causd these high fuel prices.


    Fuel Prices...thank a environmentalist= thank a rebublican.
    When gasoline shot up from about $.80 cents per gallon to about $1.25 per gallon in the late 90's no one "Thanked Bill Clinton"!! Go back to the late 70's when Jimmy Carter was in office, and we had the long gas lines!!
    Was that also the Republican's fault!! Don't get me wrong, I don't like Bush or the Republicans anymore than you do, but taking political pot shots isn't going to solve anything, and thinking that the Democrats are any more trustworthy is to live in a Fool's Paradise!!

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