Knight's Las Vegas Terminal and Its "Express" Schedule

[Retired in Nevada]

I am looking at Swift and Knight as possibilities for getting started in OTR trucking. Knight's Las Vegas terminal is offering an "express" schedule, meaning that two drivers slip-seat one truck, with one driver working seven days on, then having seven days off, and the other driver driving the opposite seven days and taking the opposite seven days off. I am quite interested in this express schedule.

Anybody with experience driving for Knight, based at the Las Vegas terminal, and/or driving Knight's express schedule, please post your experiences -- positive and negative.

How is driving for Knight's Las Vegas terminal, in general? Is the express schedule truly seven on/seven off, or just a promise that ends up being an empty promise?

TIA for your replies.

[Baldy]

Schneider also has a "Home Run" Program. Three drivers, two trucks. Each driver out for two weeks solo, one driver home for one week. change out on Wednesday. Closest teminal to you is Fontana, Ca.

I have no experience with the program, just passing along some information that I read.
Good Luck.

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[Retired in Nevada]

Schneider also has a "Home Run" Program. Three drivers, two trucks. Each driver out for two weeks solo, one driver home for one week. change out on Wednesday. Closest teminal to you is Fontana, Ca.

I have no experience with the program, just passing along some information that I read.
Good Luck.

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Appreciate your input, but I should have made it clear that I am a complete noob. I don't have a CDL yet. I'll be attending a seven-week CDL training course at my local community college beginning in early January. Once I graduate with my CDL in hand, I will have to go on with a training company such as Knight or Swift.

From the reading that I have done here and other truck driver forums, I understand that since the economy tanked, Schneider National no longer takes noobs right out of CDL schools. I believe that this is confirmed here: http://www.schneiderjobs.com/drivers/Inexperienced_Drivers.html

Please correct me if I am wrong about anything that I have said here.

[Biscuit Lips]

IDK about you, but I sure would not want to share by bed with some random stinky truck driver.:eek1:

[Sealord]

Roehl has a similar program. I sure would not want to share my bed with some random stinky truck driver. Swap mattress when driver's swap out. BOL

[jd112488]

i have always wondered how people make money on this deal. 7 days on...i would venture to say 2300 miles?? then 7 days off..i would venture to say 0000 miles. i see only 2 paychecks a month at that rate???

[scythe08]

Semi-retired maybe? When I was OTR I knew quite a few guys who only drove 6 months out of the year. Spent spring and summer OTR then vacationed or stayed home during the snow season

[Retired in Nevada]

i have always wondered how people make money on this deal. 7 days on...i would venture to say 2300 miles?? then 7 days off..i would venture to say 0000 miles. i see only 2 paychecks a month at that rate???
4,600 miles every four weeks @ 31 cents/mile to start = $1,426 gross pay every four weeks. That combined with the pension from a previous employer would be plenty enough for me, as I have no debt. Plus I would get medical for $25.20/week, which I now pay $425.25/month for on my own. The difference would put an additional $316.05/month into my pocket.

[Retired in Nevada]

Semi-retired maybe? When I was OTR I knew quite a few guys who only drove 6 months out of the year. Spent spring and summer OTR then vacationed or stayed home during the snow season
Can you name the companies for which these guys drove? How long ago? I wouldn't mind doing a six months on/six months off routine, not having to drive in winter weather, at all.

[Bumper]

A friend of mine used to do this with US Express....that was a few years ago and I know he quit driving completly in 07.

[scythe08]

Can you name the companies for which these guys drove? How long ago? I wouldn't mind doing a six months on/six months off routine, not having to drive in winter weather, at all.

I have been off the road and driving local for 3 years so I'm out of the loop but at the time I knew several drivers for Knight that did this. But I think they basically quit for 6 months and then were hired back which makes sense. But I'm unsure how their benefits were handled. You would never have 401k and I don't remember how long the insurance takes before it kicks in.

The other company was Swift and I believe it was the same setup. Gent would hire on and get known and then leave for 6 months when it slowed down and then come back when it picked up. One guy I knew had a wife in the Philippines and thats when he saw her. But this was also when freight was a heckuva lot better and we had that so-called driver shortage. Now that driving jobs are at a premium in some spots I'm not sure if this would work.

I hope this helps

[Syncrosonix]

i have always wondered how people make money on this deal. 7 days on...i would venture to say 2300 miles?? then 7 days off..i would venture to say 0000 miles. i see only 2 paychecks a month at that rate???

i'm on the express schedule now. i stay out for three weeks at a time. it allows me to have somewhat a life, and to be able to seek out other employment opportunities at the same time. knight is definitely a chitty company.

[jonp]

i have always wondered how people make money on this deal. 7 days on...i would venture to say 2300 miles?? then 7 days off..i would venture to say 0000 miles. i see only 2 paychecks a month at that rate???

I did this schedule with Roehl for over a year. I ran about 3,000 miles or more a week at .42/mile. You can see I didn't get rich but I like my time off and made a living at it. I knew my co-driver and he was clean and didn't smoke. We left one cb in the truck for both to use and also shared cleaning stuff, replacing it as it was used. Worked well but you need the right guy to share the truck with.

Also bear in mind that if your partner is delayed on the road for some reason, say the company just dosn't get him back, you might just find yourself sitting at home for an extra day or two and you won't get compensation for this. You might also show up at the terminal being told that he is "a couple of hours out" and sit for 10 - 12 hours waiting for him because he was actually in another state at the time. This happened to me. I just went home and came in the next day.

[Retired in Nevada]

i'm on the express schedule now. i stay out for three weeks at a time. it allows me to have somewhat a life, and to be able to seek out other employment opportunities at the same time. knight is definitely a chitty company.
Syncro, I take it that you are with Knight, on their "express" schedule.

You say that you stay out three weeks at a time. Is that your choice, or Knight's mandate? In either case, following three weeks out, how long are you off before heading out for another three weeks?

If it's Knight's mandate, one could hardly call it "7 on/7 off".

Please elaborate on why you say that Knight is a "chitty" company? Is Knight more "chitty" than Swift for a noob?

Thanks, all, for your replies. Keep them coming. My choices as a noob to graduate from CDL school at my local community college here in southern Nevada are Knight and Swift. They are the only companies other than Werner currently hiring noobs that live in my neck of the woods. Not a fantastic choice, I know, but right now I am leaning toward Knight, as Knight has a terminal in Las Vegas and offers the express schedule, whereas Swift neither has a terminal or yard in Vegas, nor offers anything like Knight's express schedule.

Last Sunday, I drove out to the Pilot truck stop at I-15 and Craig Road in Vegas to speak with drivers. I spoke with two Knight drivers. Both were experienced drivers. One has been with Knight for two weeks, having left a small company in Los Angeles where he lives. He said that he is already looking to leave Knight because he is not getting enough miles. The other driver has been with Knight for about a month, having left KLLM. He said that he is very happy with Knight, getting all the miles that he wants, and plans to stay with Knight indefinitely. I also spoke with a Swift driver with many years of experience driving. He has been with Swift for a few months. He said that he gets more miles than he sometimes wants, had been out for six weeks, and was finally getting to go home to the Denver, CO area after running a load to Lake Havasu City, AZ the next day.

Every driver with whom I have spoken says that the miles you get, how you are treated, and how well your home time is accommodated pretty much depend upon your dispatcher and DM, regardless of the company for which you drive.

So much to ponder about which company would be best . . .

[scythe08]

I wouldn't take what the 2 Knight Drivers had to say, much into account. They hadn't been there long enough to even know where the bathrooms are in the terminals! In my opinion you should pay attention to the guys that say they have been there for years! My first 6 months with Knight had me wondering why the hell I left Swift!
I left Knight for 2 weeks to go drive for an O/O and that was an even bigger mistake. I came back and was hired on the spot as I left in good terms and the next year and some odd months were really good! I don't mind going to LA(I live in SLC) so I ran from SLC to LA twice a week and was really happy except I also was really Lonely and missed having friends to talk to and have dinner with Ect. Knight has it's fair share of mistakes and such,,so will any company that hires new drivers.

I'd say give them a chance and hang for a few months! Go through the different seasons, build your resume.
Hell get some doubles and triples experience and haul for UPS or one of the other LTL carriers when their super busy. I think you'd like LTL except for that last trailer hehe.

I'm following this thread with interest. Keep us posted on what happens and then when you get a job, maybe start a new thread about it and tell us about your experiences from the eyes of a new driver,,,should be fun!

[Syncrosonix]

Syncro, I take it that you are with Knight, on their "express" schedule.

You say that you stay out three weeks at a time. Is that your choice, or Knight's mandate? In either case, following three weeks out, how long are you off before heading out for another three weeks?

If it's Knight's mandate, one could hardly call it "7 on/7 off".

Please elaborate on why you say that Knight is a "chitty" company? Is Knight more "chitty" than Swift for a noob?

Thanks, all, for your replies. Keep them coming. My choices as a noob to graduate from CDL school at my local community college here in southern Nevada are Knight and Swift. They are the only companies other than Werner currently hiring noobs that live in my neck of the woods. Not a fantastic choice, I know, but right now I am leaning toward Knight, as Knight has a terminal in Las Vegas and offers the express schedule, whereas Swift neither has a terminal or yard in Vegas, nor offers anything like Knight's express schedule.

Last Sunday, I drove out to the Pilot truck stop at I-15 and Craig Road in Vegas to speak with drivers. I spoke with two Knight drivers. Both were experienced drivers. One has been with Knight for two weeks, having left a small company in Los Angeles where he lives. He said that he is already looking to leave Knight because he is not getting enough miles. The other driver has been with Knight for about a month, having left KLLM. He said that he is very happy with Knight, getting all the miles that he wants, and plans to stay with Knight indefinitely. I also spoke with a Swift driver with many years of experience driving. He has been with Swift for a few months. He said that he gets more miles than he sometimes wants, had been out for six weeks, and was finally getting to go home to the Denver, CO area after running a load to Lake Havasu City, AZ the next day.

Every driver with whom I have spoken says that the miles you get, how you are treated, and how well your home time is accommodated pretty much depend upon your dispatcher and DM, regardless of the company for which you drive.

So much to ponder about which company would be best . . .

i stay on for three weeks at a time by choice. upon returning for some home time, all my dispatcher tells me is to call him the day before i am ready to go. i can stay home for 2 weeks if i want. i could also stay out for longer than three weeks. it's purely my choice.

scythe, knight IS a crappy company, and you know it. a company whose planning is so crappy that they often forget about loads that are ready, and by the time you've been dispatched, the load is already late, and they're hassling the driver about getting it there on time. the load that got me home had been sitting in a drop lot in otay mesa for longer than 3 weeks. by the time i picked it up, it was due the very next day in santa fe, nm. yet they were asking me to take it all the way, and to do my best with it. forget that. at this company, it's impossible to run 100% legal and make a livable income.

[Retired in Nevada]

i stay on for three weeks at a time by choice. upon returning for some home time, all my dispatcher tells me is to call him the day before i am ready to go. i can stay home for 2 weeks if i want. i could also stay out for longer than three weeks. it's purely my choice.

scythe, knight IS a crappy company, and you know it. a company whose planning is so crappy that they often forget about loads that are ready, and by the time you've been dispatched, the load is already late, and they're hassling the driver about getting it there on time. the load that got me home had been sitting in a drop lot in otay mesa for longer than 3 weeks. by the time i picked it up, it was due the very next day in santa fe, nm. yet they were asking me to take it all the way, and to do my best with it. forget that. at this company, it's impossible to run 100% legal and make a livable income.
Would you say that Knight is any better or worse than Swift?

[Syncrosonix]

Would you say that Knight is any better or worse than Swift?

they're worse than swift.....BY FAR. you'd be better off going to swift. at least their planning isn't totally inept. their planning and dispatching is 24/7, all of the terminals i've been to have running water, showers, toilets WITH toilet paper and tissue thingers to sit on, yards big enough to hold more than 10 tractor-trailers, and they aren't run like a police-state-like company.

if you like having more than 5 surveillance cameras on you at any given time once you enter a yard, go to knight. if you like being treated like a 5 year old who cannot keep their hand out the cookie jar, go to knight. if you like being treated like an uneducated "typical" truck driver, go to knight. if you like having to cook your logbook because knight doesn't pay worth a damn, go to knight. if you like walking into an office that reminds you of a frat/sorority house where nothing ever gets done, go to knight.

need i say more?

[Retired in Nevada]

they're worse than swift.....BY FAR. you'd be better off going to swift. at least their planning isn't totally inept. their planning and dispatching is 24/7, all of the terminals i've been to have running water, showers, toilets WITH toilet paper and tissue thingers to sit on, yards big enough to hold more than 10 tractor-trailers, and they aren't run like a police-state-like company.

if you like having more than 5 surveillance cameras on you at any given time once you enter a yard, go to knight. if you like being treated like a 5 year old who cannot keep their hand out the cookie jar, go to knight. if you like being treated like an uneducated "typical" truck driver, go to knight. if you like having to cook your logbook because knight doesn't pay worth a damn, go to knight. if you like walking into an office that reminds you of a frat/sorority house where nothing ever gets done, go to knight.

need i say more?
So let me ask you, Syncro -- and I don't mean to be condescending here -- buy why are you driving for Knight, as you seem to be very unhappy with them?

Do you ever get to Knight's Las Vegas terminal? If so, what's your opinion of it and the people who work there?

[Syncrosonix]

i am driving for them because i had left swift originally after landing a local, non-driving job, and then being screwed over by a damn hiring freeze. i tried for 2 months to find something else around the area. nothing panned out. i had given swift a call back and was told they aren't taking experienced drivers, regardless of the fact that they had driven for swift. knight was the only option (for me) because i did NOT WANT to go to werner or any other company. i think i should have given mckelvey a whirl. they're also based in phoenix.

i don't know how the vegas terminal is operated. i could tell you what i've "heard". what good is that info?

[Retired in Nevada]

i am driving for them because i had left swift originally after landing a local, non-driving job, and then being screwed over by a damn hiring freeze. i tried for 2 months to find something else around the area. nothing panned out. i had given swift a call back and was told they aren't taking experienced drivers, regardless of the fact that they had driven for swift. knight was the only option (for me) because i did NOT WANT to go to werner or any other company. i think i should have given mckelvey a whirl. they're also based in phoenix.

i don't know how the vegas terminal is operated. i could tell you what i've "heard". what good is that info?
I'm a little surprised that Swift didn't take you back. A couple of weeks ago when I was at the North Las Vegas Pilot truck stop, I spoke with a Swift driver who has several years of experience. He had been hired by Swift about six months ago following a stint with KLLM. He said that he is getting tons of miles with Swift -- sometimes more than he wants -- and hadn't been home for six weeks.

McKelvey is not a possibility for me. According to their Web site, they don't hire drivers with less than one year of verifiable OTR experience. But looking over their Web site, they look like they might be a good company to go with after I get my one year in with Knight or Swift.

Also, please tell me what you have "heard" about Knight's Las Vegas terminal. Some info -- even if it must be taken with a grain of salt -- is better than no info at all.

[scythe08]

Syncrosonix,

I Never said Knight wasn't a crappy company, but of the ones he had listed I thought they were the best for his situation. You made Valid points about their load planning as that was one of the biggest reasons for me going bald! I quickly learned that whenever I turned down a load to make to send it over the qualcomm several times stating that I could not do it legally and to ignore the "Call Me" message soon there after.

At the time Knight also swore up and down their q-comm system only allowed them to save and review driver comments, not dispatcher comment, which was the most hair balled thing I ever had heard, and one the first day of training, The Fleet manager came in and stressed how we could not record anything our dispatchers said over the phone without their knowing about it and approving,,,which I thought was the weirdest thing I ever heard.

And I agree They are an extremely tight run ship, but you know what? I knew the system and I made it work for me, because at the time I CHOOSE to work there with a bigger goal in mind and made the best of it until I found what I was looking for. If your attitude towards you dispatcher and terminal and whoever else you talk to is anything like it is here, it's no wonder you have such a hard time. You are apparently in a crappy situation, get a better attitude and make the best of it until something better comes along and then leave. If I can handle them with my temper, so can you

[Syncrosonix]

scythe, i handle my chit whenever i get a pre-plan. i don't decline anything. i run my chit tight, hard, and sometimes blur the lines of legal and illegal to get the freight there. i still have no idea how much slack is too much. i've about turned the 1 inch of rope into 1000 yards, and it's still growing.

this company doesn't pay worth a damn. run legal and you're going to the halfway house in no time. hell, you may as well start looking into some prime real estate underneath a freeway overpass. when it comes to knight and any other company that doesn't pay worth a damn, i advocate 100%, to run illegal. if/when knight begins installing the EOBR, i will make sure to get the hell out without giving a 2 week notice. central refrigerated is currently using the EOBR. i've seen it on a few of their trucks.

my attitude on here stinks because the OTR trucking industry is total garbage. the only people who think being paid like we're working 40hrs is okay are either the head honchos running the show, or the blind and dumb who can't read the writing on the wall.

i'm jaded as can be and wish i had finished school 7yrs ago. i'm only 10 measly credits away from having my AA degree. this whole cpm/percentage garbage is for people who haven't ever had a job where they've seen a paycheck that exceeded $400, and think that their $200 or so paychecks per week is "good money." laughable is what that kind of pay is. i made more than that working as a pizza delivery driver....on tips. during the summer, i had some weeks where i nearly made $900 alone on the cash tips.

this industry is only getting worse with the people who are under the false belief that trucking is the answer to their financial and economic woes. i'm encountering more "speshal" types on the road nowadays. i don't want to be anywhere near those types who shouldn't even have a damn cdl. i find myself being tailgated much more by other drivers, high beamed, cut off, and almost swerved into by passing trucks. eventually something has got to give.

RIN, i've heard that the vegas terminal is good, crappy, disorganized, fantastic, etc...none of the info is consistent.

[belpre122]

scythe, i handle my chit whenever i get a pre-plan. i don't decline anything. i run my chit tight, hard, and sometimes blur the lines of legal and illegal to get the freight there. i still have no idea how much slack is too much. i've about turned the 1 inch of rope into 1000 yards, and it's still growing.

this company doesn't pay worth a damn. run legal and you're going to the halfway house in no time. hell, you may as well start looking into some prime real estate underneath a freeway overpass. when it comes to knight and any other company that doesn't pay worth a damn, i advocate 100%, to run illegal. if/when knight begins installing the EOBR, i will make sure to get the hell out without giving a 2 week notice. central refrigerated is currently using the EOBR. i've seen it on a few of their trucks.

my attitude on here stinks because the OTR trucking industry is total garbage. the only people who think being paid like we're working 40hrs is okay are either the head honchos running the show, or the blind and dumb who can't read the writing on the wall.

i'm jaded as can be and wish i had finished school 7yrs ago. i'm only 10 measly credits away from having my AA degree. this whole cpm/percentage garbage is for people who haven't ever had a job where they've seen a paycheck that exceeded $400, and think that their $200 or so paychecks per week is "good money." laughable is what that kind of pay is. i made more than that working as a pizza delivery driver....on tips. during the summer, i had some weeks where i nearly made $900 alone on the cash tips.

this industry is only getting worse with the people who are under the false belief that trucking is the answer to their financial and economic woes. i'm encountering more "speshal" types on the road nowadays. i don't want to be anywhere near those types who shouldn't even have a damn cdl. i find myself being tailgated much more by other drivers, high beamed, cut off, and almost swerved into by passing trucks. eventually something has got to give.

RIN, i've heard that the vegas terminal is good, crappy, disorganized, fantastic, etc...none of the info is consistent.

This is definitely on of the Top 10 posts of all time on CAD. It's a good thing that you have an established history on this board Syncrosonix. That should keep the CPM apologist/coolie carrier dreamer types from questioning your sentiments. Get out now while your still young Syncro...............

[1TruckDrivinSunUvAGun]

I could have sworn required 4 mos. OTR experience and didn't hire newbies and didn't offer a training program, unless things have changed.

[jonp]

I highly suggest that Sync get out of a truck for a vacation. It's obvious to me that his attitude sucks and his head is not in the game. Every one of us hits the wall at some point and needs a little while to decompress. I took 2 months off the year before last after a bad experience with a company and went on safari in Africa. I felt like a new man when I climbed back into a truck.

[Retired in Nevada]

I could have sworn required 4 mos. OTR experience and didn't hire newbies and didn't offer a training program, unless things have changed.
If you are referring to Knight, Knight has a training division called Squire Transportation. Squire takes noobs straight out of CDL school. Noobs go through a brief orientation period, go out for four weeks with a trainer, then drive solo for 90 days. After the 90 days with Squire are up, you apply with Knight. Acceptance by Knight is automatic, as long as your record with Squire was good and clean. This is as it was explained to me by both a Squire recruiter at Squire's Ontario, CA location and a Knight recruiter at Knight's Las Vegas terminal.

[Syncrosonix]

I highly suggest that Sync get out of a truck for a vacation. It's obvious to me that his attitude sucks and his head is not in the game. Every one of us hits the wall at some point and needs a little while to decompress. I took 2 months off the year before last after a bad experience with a company and went on safari in Africa. I felt like a new man when I climbed back into a truck.

no, what i NEED is some snatch ("dinner" tomorrow night with a hot chick. it's gonna happen for sure.), and i need to continue my education. the so-called OTR lifers do it because they can't do anything else in life. they're either too dumb or have jacked up so much that it's OTR, go back to jail, or the halfway house. although there are those who are intelligent to do other things in life. however, they're stuck because of their age. i feel sorry for those guys and gals. i don't want to end up bitter like them. i'm already jaded as can be. any intelligent person can see that the over-the-road trucking industry is pure garbage. too bad jonp can't see it. even after taking an african safari.

my tolerance for morons OTR has come to a very sharp end. i sometimes feel like i'm gonna smash somebody's face in. i hate dumb, uneducated people. my tolerance for them is even lower when i can smell them from 10ft away, and it's not their cologne i'm smelling. i wish it was. instead, the stench is from an uncouth, disgusting man-piglet who rolls around in his own ******* filth.

[freebirdrfd]

Syncrosonix, i wish you would stop holding back. Open up and tell how you feel, we are friends here. :blazin:

[Syncrosonix]

Syncrosonix, i wish you would stop holding back. Open up and tell how you feel, we are friends here. :blazin:

get me drunk and i'll tell you how i truly feel about the world, the people inhabiting it, and other things.

[dle]

A point of order if you would please allow me.

I would not be too concerned about what the particular terminal is like. Because more than likely you will be driving 48 states during the time that you are out, and then they will try to get you back to your home terminal. You would be better served if you were concerned with what the company as a whole is like.

Since you don't have your CDL, and you are planning on going to a CC, get that out of the way first. You still have time to decide what company you want to go to.


I drove for Swift for a year, and overall my experience with them was a good one. At least up until the point when a moose and I had an encounter. I also drove for Werner - a nightmare of a nightmare.

From the few drivers that drive (or driven) for knight that I've had contact with - the impression I get is that they are a close tie with Werner.

I would also suggest that before you commit yourself to one of those programs - learn what it is like on the road first.

[Retired in Nevada]

A point of order if you would please allow me.

I would not be too concerned about what the particular terminal is like. Because more than likely you will be driving 48 states during the time that you are out, and then they will try to get you back to your home terminal. You would be better served if you were concerned with what the company as a whole is like.

Since you don't have your CDL, and you are planning on going to a CC, get that out of the way first. You still have time to decide what company you want to go to.


I drove for Swift for a year, and overall my experience with them was a good one. At least up until the point when a moose and I had an encounter. I also drove for Werner - a nightmare of a nightmare.

From the few drivers that drive (or driven) for knight that I've had contact with - the impression I get is that they are a close tie with Werner.

I would also suggest that before you commit yourself to one of those programs - learn what it is like on the road first.
I appreciate what you're saying here, dle. I am concerned with what the company -- any company -- as a whole is like. In Knight's case, I have heard and read that the staff at each terminal has quite a bit of autonomy regarding how they run that terminal.

Did Swift fire you after your encounter with the moose? If they did, why? If the moose ran out in front of your truck, wasn't that an unpreventable accident? Did Swift ding your DAC report for that?

As I mentioned in an earlier post, my only choices as a complete noob in southern Nevada appear to be Knight, Swift, and Werner. Werner is out, as they do not take anybody with even one DUI lifetime. As I also mentioned earlier, I have one 14-year-old DUI, so my choice is between Knight and Swift.

So, given a choice between Knight and Swift to get one year of "starter" driving under my belt, which of the two would you suggest. One or the other . . . death is not an option :)

[geargrinder]

i have always wondered how people make money on this deal. 7 days on...i would venture to say 2300 miles?? then 7 days off..i would venture to say 0000 miles. i see only 2 paychecks a month at that rate???

it's a part time job for persons looking to augment another source of income - read retired military, government, state.

Roehl's hometime program keeps ya hopping at a 3000+ mile clip (no it isn't 1500 out and do a U turn!).

[dle]

A shortened version of the story is that somehow the accident got coded as hitting a cow (which is preventable) and I was terminated. After doing some pushing they realized oops they made a booboo and coded it correctly for hitting a moose. BTW Swift doesn't use DAC. Currently, we drive for Panther.

Pretty much all of the companies, swift, werner, covenant etc etc will claim that individual terminals are autonomous. The question needs to be - where are the load planners and dispatchers located at? For instance when we were at Swift, we were based out of the Lancaster term (where are normal hours dispatch was) - after hours dispatch was out of Memphis. Any load planner out of any terminal and the two previously mention dispatch locations can give you loads. Don't know how Knight works it.

One guarantee for you, if you talk to enough current and former drivers for any carrier you will end up with the same number of good experiences and bad experiences. The thing when you get bad reports - is to push for information. If they don't give much - count that as a no-vote, they probably have a case of sour grapes. For example,
Them: Yeah I left xyz because they just weren't giving me the miles I wanted.
You: Ok, how many miles are you looking for in a week?
Them: As many as I can get.
You: Well how many miles did you get?
Them: Not enough.
You: Ok thanks for the info. <Walk away and put this as a no-vote>

Based on my overall experience with Swift it was good.

IMHO.
Focus on these things first. 1) will the companies I'm interested in accept the school i want to go to 2)
will they reimburse me for the school, what are the terms of that 3) what are the training requirements for the companies i want to go to ( 2 weeks, 3 weeks, 6 weeks) 4) during training how / what am I paid 5) after training what will i be paid 6) When will the benefits that I need start and how much do they cost.

Keep in mind that recruiters are used-car salesmen. The more you talk to with the same questions will give you the correct answer.

[Smooth]

it's a part time job for persons looking to augment another source of income - read retired military, government, state.

Roehl's hometime program keeps ya hopping at a 3000+ mile clip (no it isn't 1500 out and do a U turn!).


The Roehl 7/7 program was fantastic when I was on it a few years ago. I averaged 3350 miles at .38 cpm. I made the mistake of quitting and going to Yellow, as of now I'm local but that is the one OTR job I was happy with.

[jd112488]

i wasnt trying to be a dick..just asking cause i didnt know.

[scythe08]

Hey Retired,

How are things going?

[jonp]

no, what i NEED is some snatch ("dinner" tomorrow night with a hot chick. it's gonna happen for sure.), and i need to continue my education. the so-called OTR lifers do it because they can't do anything else in life. they're either too dumb or have jacked up so much that it's OTR, go back to jail, or the halfway house. although there are those who are intelligent to do other things in life. however, they're stuck because of their age. i feel sorry for those guys and gals. i don't want to end up bitter like them. i'm already jaded as can be. any intelligent person can see that the over-the-road trucking industry is pure garbage. too bad jonp can't see it. even after taking an african safari.

my tolerance for morons OTR has come to a very sharp end. i sometimes feel like i'm gonna smash somebody's face in. i hate dumb, uneducated people. my tolerance for them is even lower when i can smell them from 10ft away, and it's not their cologne i'm smelling. i wish it was. instead, the stench is from an uncouth, disgusting man-piglet who rolls around in his own ******* filth.

This life certainly isn't for everyone. I started it after getting my B.S. Biology because it's what I want to do. If you value it as little as you do women ( would you call your mother "snatch"?...don't answer that) then find something else.

Your second paragraph substantiates my post. Nothing is stopping you from going back to school. Why don't your do the motoring public a favor and get your angry butt off the road before you hurt someone.

[jonp]

it's a part time job for persons looking to augment another source of income - read retired military, government, state.

Roehl's hometime program keeps ya hopping at a 3000+ mile clip (no it isn't 1500 out and do a U turn!).

I did the 7/7 for almost 2 years or so. Got 3000+ every week I was there at .42/mile.

[Retired in Nevada]

Hey Retired,

How are things going?
I continue to read this board and other truck driver message boards. I have until the second week of December to decide if I want to attend the CDL training program at my local community college -- fully paid for by the state -- and then plunge into OTR trucking.

I'm really torn as I read these boards. So many of you seem to hate OTR trucking. A minority of you seems to like it.

Knight's Las Vegas terminal incessantly runs ads in the Vegas fishwrap and on Vegas Craigslist, which makes me wonder if there is something very wrong with driving for Knight out of its Vegas terminal.

As I mentioned before, it appears that Knight and Swift are my only choices. I have read plenty of negative stuff about Swift on these boards as well.

Frankly, I would rather do something else, like entering the health care field. But I have neither the time nor the money to do that.

I am certain that I will make my decision regarding OTR trucking at the very last moment in December.

[Bigmon]

I continue to read this board and other truck driver message boards. I have until the second week of December to decide if I want to attend the CDL training program at my local community college -- fully paid for by the state -- and then plunge into OTR trucking.

I'm really torn as I read these boards. So many of you seem to hate OTR trucking. A minority of you seems to like it.

Knight's Las Vegas terminal incessantly runs ads in the Vegas fishwrap and on Vegas Craigslist, which makes me wonder if there is something very wrong with driving for Knight out of its Vegas terminal.

As I mentioned before, it appears that Knight and Swift are my only choices. I have read plenty of negative stuff about Swift on these boards as well.

Frankly, I would rather do something else, like entering the health care field. But I have neither the time nor the money to do that.

I am certain that I will make my decision regarding OTR trucking at the very last moment in December.

Grab some first aid kits and go door to door and you're in the healthcare field.


Last I read, only about 2% of OTR drivers know about CAD. A smaller portion of that post.

[Syncrosonix]

This life certainly isn't for everyone. I started it after getting my B.S. Biology because it's what I want to do. If you value it as little as you do women ( would you call your mother "snatch"?...don't answer that) then find something else.

Your second paragraph substantiates my post. Nothing is stopping you from going back to school. Why don't your do the motoring public a favor and get your angry butt off the road before you hurt someone.


haahh, i'll go get myself a job at mcdonald's and make more money than you, or any other OTR asshat that doesn't know any better.

oh, and when it comes to women, i make my intentions known from the very get-go. if they're looking for a relationship, they had better look elsewhere. it's not what i'm looking for. hey, at least i'm honest. there is nothing wrong with that at all.

[jonp]

Then go get a job a McDonald's and stop whining on the msg board. Or won't they hire your ******ed, angry ass? Valium was created for people like you.

[Syncrosonix]

you see me posting much anywhere on this site? this and a couple of others are the only ones i check. i'll continue to laugh at stupid truckers like yourself who think working for peanuts is a-okay. you had better look into the prime real estate underneath a freeway overpass in the area you live. better yet, learn español and embrace the fact that companies think of stupid drivers like yourself as a migrant farm worker.

[jonp]

You continue to prove my point (and your IQ).