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poster
08-15-2009, 09:08 AM
Offered by JBHunt. Las Vegas NV to southern CA.

GMAN
08-15-2009, 12:20 PM
When I hear rates such as this I assume that the one offering the freight is either dishonest or incompetent.

Dejanh
08-15-2009, 01:31 PM
When I hear rates such as this I assume that the one offering the freight is either dishonest or incompetent.
I bet you the load got hauled Mike....

RostyC
08-15-2009, 03:14 PM
I think Rev was working that area for a while??? Probably drove the rates down. :D

Musicman
08-15-2009, 03:19 PM
Sounds more like what you'd historically expect coming out of the Northeast.

Windwalker
08-15-2009, 04:41 PM
Offered by JBHunt. Las Vegas NV to southern CA.
J B Hunt does a lot of brokering. No mention of what the load is, but it must be a load that is difficult to get trucks for, or a very dangerous load. Something that no one wants to haul. There is freight coming out of southern CA, but not much going into NV. Might be due to a lack of trucks available to haul the loads.

Musicman
08-15-2009, 05:03 PM
No mention of what the load is, but it must be a load that is difficult to get trucks for, or a very dangerous load. Something that no one wants to haul.

If I'm not mistaken, doesn't the rate go UP the harder it is to get a truck to take the load? You know, the old supply and demand thing? Increasing the rate makes the load more attractive? Like, I wont go to NYC for a $1 a mile, but will do it for $2.50 (or even $1.80 if it's over 2000 miles).

Malaki86
08-16-2009, 06:02 PM
When I hear rates such as this I assume that the one offering the freight is either dishonest or incompetent.

Coming from JBHunt, wouldn't it be both?

AC120
08-16-2009, 07:06 PM
doesn't the rate go UP the harder it is to get a truck to take the load?

It should. They'd have to keep raising the rate until someone bites. Until then, it sits. sixty seven.seven! I guess the shipper's not in any hurry. :) Come to think of it, that's not a rate, it's an insult.

GMAN
08-17-2009, 05:33 AM
I bet you the load got hauled Mike....


I have no doubt they moved the load. I never cease to be amazed at how cheap some people will haul a load. They don't even seem to want to wait to find something that they can haul which will make a profit. They find a load and take it without even trying to negotiate a better rate.

scrapmetal
08-18-2009, 04:20 PM
You shoulda grabbed it.According to Kevin Rutherford

Orangetxguy
08-18-2009, 04:36 PM
If I'm not mistaken, doesn't the rate go UP the harder it is to get a truck to take the load? You know, the old supply and demand thing? Increasing the rate makes the load more attractive? Like, I wont go to NYC for a $1 a mile, but will do it for $2.50 (or even $1.80 if it's over 2000 miles).


I might go PAST NYC, if the rate to the truck is $2.50 a mile. But...I won't deliver into NYC, for any amount.

Maniac
08-18-2009, 07:32 PM
But...I won't deliver into NYC, for any amount.

Over here they fight over the caustic loads into NYC, must be the $800 for under 100 mile thing, plus you get that 32' trailer, which helps the manuverability thing.

Orangetxguy
08-18-2009, 09:49 PM
Over here they fight over the caustic loads into NYC, must be the $800 for under 100 mile thing, plus you get that 32' trailer, which helps the manuverability thing.

Hmmmmm. I guess IF I lived up that way going into NYC would be logical...if such exists. But man..to intentionally deliver into NYC from down here??? :hellno: :hellno: :hellno: :hellno:

Maniac
08-19-2009, 05:45 PM
Hmmmmm. I guess IF I lived up that way going into NYC would be logical...if such exists. But man..to intentionally deliver into NYC from down here??? :hellno: :hellno: :hellno: :hellno:

Well being from here, it isn't really a big deal to me, not really any different than any other city I have been in.

Just gotta block out the nonsense and go I guess. I have done those caustic loads 5 or 6 in a row, BIG money, had to look into fuel tank, cause the gauge NEVER moved ! Of course I wouldn't want it steady, no one else does either, but there is always someone who will do it.

Musicman
08-20-2009, 03:02 AM
Well being from here, it isn't really a big deal to me, not really any different than any other city I have been in.

It is unique in that it’s the only major US city that you absolutely MUST pay massive tolls to get into, out and move around in. I learned to drive in Chicago, so traffic really doesn’t bother me. Neither do the tight docks and low clearances… it’s all just part of a normal day in this business IMO. But when you gotta dig into your pocket and pony up $200 just to get into and out of the city… THAT hurts, especially when I paid the Verrazano for the first time in a long time and found out they wanted $60… FOR ONE BRIDGE!!!!!

Musicman
08-20-2009, 03:19 AM
I might go PAST NYC, if the rate to the truck is $2.50 a mile. But...I won't deliver into NYC, for any amount.

I won’t do it regularly anymore… not in MY truck, but from 2002 – 2004 I did NYC LTL every week. It really wasn’t that bad in a company truck… if somebody hit me it wasn’t my truck and my loss and I didn't have to pay the tolls. These days we might do NYC once a year, and that’s enough for me to remember why I hate it so much and why I now live 120 miles from any city of size.

Orangetxguy
08-20-2009, 05:21 AM
I won’t do it regularly anymore… not in MY truck, but from 2002 – 2004 I did NYC LTL every week. It really wasn’t that bad in a company truck… if somebody hit me it wasn’t my truck and my loss and I didn't have to pay the tolls. These days we might do NYC once a year, and that’s enough for me to remember why I hate it so much and why I now live 120 miles from any city of size.


When I go "past" NYC, I usually take 287 to the NYTollway...take that up to I-84...then I-84 into NEngland. I try really really hard not to go past WV.

BanditsCousin
08-20-2009, 07:57 AM
I now live 120 miles from any city of size.


And that's why I lived 15 minutes from you for a number of years :)

Musicman
08-20-2009, 08:16 AM
And that's why I lived 15 minutes from you for a number of years :)

No kiddin'? Where would that be?

BanditsCousin
08-20-2009, 08:30 AM
Carbondale. I briefly worked at the Mayflower agent in your town a few blocks north of the KFC on 13 :)

Musicman
08-20-2009, 09:08 AM
Carbondale. I briefly worked at the Mayflower agent in your town a few blocks north of the KFC on 13 :)

I live about 1.5 miles from there.

Maniac
08-20-2009, 07:17 PM
it’s the only major US city that you absolutely MUST pay massive tolls to get into,




Without a doubt the highest, that's why the rates for us is so high to go in.

The tolls for the city run were around $60.00 which include the 1 trip from NJTP exit 13 to the GW, the GW and the trip back on the pike, to exit 13, considering it was only 112 miles start to finish, yes a lot of money, still just another operating expense, and if you cover the expenses, you can still make money.

Orangetxguy
08-21-2009, 05:16 AM
Without a doubt the highest, that's why the rates for us is so high to go in.

The tolls for the city run were around $60.00 which include the 1 trip from NJTP exit 13 to the GW, the GW and the trip back on the pike, to exit 13, considering it was only 112 miles start to finish, yes a lot of money, still just another operating expense, and if you cover the expenses, you can still make money.


That second part seems to be where I hit the speed bump. Everytime I think I am getting ahead...I take two steps backwards!!

RostyC
08-21-2009, 02:08 PM
That second part seems to be where I hit the speed bump. Everytime I think I am getting ahead...I take two steps backwards!!

That's because you gotta take Three Steps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GyOgVFDocs) forward :lol::lol: woo hoo!!

Maniac
08-21-2009, 10:57 PM
Hey, we ALL hit speed bumps, sometimes you don't feel them, sometimes you can be wounded real bad.

This year has been s speed bump. I've had the gloves on all year, my arms are tired, but I'll keep swingin'

Musicman
08-22-2009, 02:14 AM
This year has been s speed bump. I've had the gloves on all year, my arms are tired, but I'll keep swingin'

Amen to that, brotha'!