Owner Operators Forums - Flatbed Freight Board We are looking for a good one




CelebrityTrucking
03-09-2008, 05:12 AM
Greetings; how is everyone out there doing?

I am writing this in regards to flatbed freight boards other that get loaded dot com. I have not been able to locate a board that is paying okay money per mile. I mean we can find all of the loads that we want, but when a load weigh 42,000 lbs with 2 to 3 stops that is only paying $1.30 per mile is like a slap in the face especially with Landstar paying $2.00 to $2.50 per mile. I know that you have to be in the Landstar family to get that, but what we are hearing from other drivers is, they are making $30,000.00 every 3 weeks as a solo driver pulling Not Wide Load/ Oversized Freight, and they were also booking their own loads. With it being 1 million sites out there advertising their load boards, I am just looking for a highly recommended board that pays good money for flatbed loads. Please advise.


Orangetxguy
03-09-2008, 01:02 PM
Either pay the price and get the full version of DAT load-board; http://www.datconnect.com/ ..or get Internettruckstop.com; http://www.internettruckstop.com/

DAT cost's more per month than ITS & Getloaded combined...but it is the first board that loads hit, if you deal with brokers only.

You should also consider signing up with Landstar, Mercer Transportation and Jones Motor, on their brokerage sites. Jowin Express out of MS also runs a fair brokerage.

Heavy Duty
03-09-2008, 01:50 PM
but what we are hearing from other drivers is, they are making $30,000.00 every 3 weeks as a solo driver pulling Not Wide Load/ Oversized Freight, and they were also booking their own loads

Steve and Gman are doing that much?

You shouldn't listen to BBR at the lunch counter.


03-09-2008, 02:07 PM
Heavy is right, don't listen to those other drivers. If your just looking at the loads that advertise what they are paying then it really doesn't represent a true picture.

Don't listen to Landstar drivers also. Not many get that much. Take for example Rev.Vassago. He has hauled loads for Landstar at $.65 cents per mile.

On a more serious note telling the truth. If you want to run a flatbed doing at least 2,500 miles per week you can count on $1.80 per mile. I'm sure people will come in and say this and that but if you wanted to create a spreadsheet with a realistic figure from someone who's doing it, there you go.

Rev.Vassago
03-09-2008, 02:25 PM
Don't listen to Landstar drivers also. Not many get that much.

Really? How much knowledge do you have of their flatbed load board? :roll:

Take for example Rev.Vassago. He has hauled loads for Landstar at $.65 cents per mile.

I wasn't aware that was a flatbed load. :roll:

240 miles for $251.63 does not equal $0.65 per mile. When you factor in the deadhead that I chose to do, then it goes down to $0.65 per mile. I know that is a hard concept for you to understand, but I was heading in that direction anyway, and chose to take the load since it didn't conflict with the load I had already booked in Minneapolis. Unlike you, I'm not afraid to post the bad and the good. :roll:

On a more serious note telling the truth. If you want to run a flatbed doing at least 2,500 miles per week you can count on $1.80 per mile. I'm sure people will come in and say this and that but if you wanted to create a spreadsheet with a realistic figure from someone who's doing it, there you go.

ROFLMAO :lol:

One day you average $1.70 per mile, then it is down to $1.40 per mile. Now it's up to $1.80 per mile?

At least I don't haul $3.14 per mile loads for $1.80 per mile. Shoot - even at Landstar, you would have gotten $2.04 per mile for that load. :lol:

I'm sure you'll be averaging $0.65 per mile once you start factoring in realistic deadhead and stop rounding your numbers. :lol:

03-09-2008, 02:27 PM
ROFLMA :roll:

Don't listen to him. He's been through 3 jobs in less than a year and I'm sure this one won't last long either.

03-09-2008, 02:29 PM
Worst load I hauled was from Moorhead, MN to St. Paul, MN for fuel money. $251.63 on 385 miles


ROFLMA :roll:

Heavy Duty
03-09-2008, 02:32 PM
At least I don't haul $3.14 per mile loads for $1.80 per mile. Shoot - even at Landstar, you would have gotten $2.04 per mile for that load.

Rev. your wrong, with his trailer he would had recieved $2.37 a mile, probably more with the FSC at 100% to the truck.

But remember he got 100% and got to pay his own cargo and liabilty, and has his name on the door.

Rev.Vassago
03-09-2008, 02:33 PM
Worst load I hauled was from Moorhead, MN to St. Paul, MN for fuel money. $251.63 on 385 miles


ROFLMA :roll:

I'm aware that the concept of deadhead miles is challenging to you. Maybe someday you can have a Kindergarten teacher explain it to you.

And what exactly is a "ROFLMA"? Are you still struggling with that one?

03-09-2008, 02:33 PM
ROFLMA :roll:

Rev.Vassago
03-09-2008, 02:40 PM
I found out how much the customer paid for shipping on 3,200 miles...................$11,500



The load I took to Canada was $1.80 for 3,400 miles with a dead head of 40 miles from my house.

Hauling a 3200 mile load for 53% of the revenue, plus going 200 miles out of route. Priceless.

Rev.Vassago
03-09-2008, 02:41 PM
At least I don't haul $3.14 per mile loads for $1.80 per mile. Shoot - even at Landstar, you would have gotten $2.04 per mile for that load.

Rev. your wrong, with his trailer he would had recieved $2.37 a mile, probably more with the FSC at 100% to the truck.

But remember he got 100% and got to pay his own cargo and liabilty, and has his name on the door.

You're right - I was factoring it at 65%, not the 73% that flatbed drivers get.

9200IH
03-09-2008, 02:45 PM
Steve You have to add off "O" to ROFLMA.

Roll ON Floor Laugh My Butt

or

Roll ON Floor Laugh My Butt Off

Mike

Orangetxguy
03-09-2008, 03:26 PM
:shock: :shock: Uuuuuuh........Guy's.......Celeb asked about load boards that have better freight than does Getloaded.com :? :? Didn't really see where they asked for ya's all to get in a wizzing match. :lol: :lol:


On a personal note...I would have let that cheap load sit and kept on dh'ing to Minneapolis....would have used less fuel and time.



or I wouldn't bring up the fact that I did haul it...if I had hauled it!

03-09-2008, 03:32 PM
Steve You have to add off "O" to ROFLMA.

Roll ON Floor Laugh My Butt

or

Roll ON Floor Laugh My Butt Off

Mike


Ha ha ha, ya, I gotta learn how to play the game better!!! ROTFLMFOAO

Rev.Vassago
03-09-2008, 03:33 PM
On a personal note...I would have let that cheap load sit and kept on dh'ing to Minneapolis....would have used less fuel and time.

As I stated in the other thread, I won't be doing it again.

or I wouldn't bring up the fact that I did haul it...if I had hauled it!

That would be a Steve Booth tactic.

geomon
03-09-2008, 03:43 PM
Orangetxguy wrote:
On a personal note...I would have let that cheap load sit and kept on dh'ing to Minneapolis....would have used less fuel and time.


As I stated in the other thread, I won't be doing it again.


There's also something to be said for doing a load for that low rate if you are working with just a few LS brokers as Rev stated he is...you're doing a favor to start a good relationship with them..maybe you got them out of a bind by doing that. Hopefully that pays off downstream.

03-09-2008, 09:30 PM
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As I stated in the other thread, I won't be doing it again.


Ya right. History repeats itself you know. Heck, I didn't even need a calculator to figure out you actually paid them to haul the load!!!

ROTFLMAO

This is fun being like Rev.

Rev.Vassago
03-09-2008, 09:37 PM
Heck, I didn't even need a calculator to figure out you actually paid them to haul the load!!!

You wouldn't know how to use it if you had one. If you did, you would know how bad you got screwed on that Canada run. :lol:

I bet that broker was laughing at you. All the way to the bank.

03-09-2008, 09:39 PM
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! har har har

Rev.Vassago
03-09-2008, 09:42 PM
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! har har har

Better work on some better comebacks if you want to play. :roll:

03-09-2008, 09:44 PM
ROTFLMAO..@..Rev

Rev.Vassago
03-09-2008, 10:00 PM
ROTFLMAO..@..Rev

I rest my case.

03-09-2008, 10:51 PM
this is one of the more ridiculous thread hi jacks I have seen.....anyone with more info care to help answer the thread starters question.

03-09-2008, 11:31 PM
this is one of the more ridiculous thread hi jacks I have seen.....anyone with more info care to help answer the thread starters question.

I did answer in the beginning but then Rev came in crying like a baby. He on the other hand offered no advise as usual.

Rev.Vassago
03-09-2008, 11:52 PM
this is one of the more ridiculous thread hi jacks I have seen.....anyone with more info care to help answer the thread starters question.

I did answer in the beginning but then Rev came in crying like a baby. He on the other hand offered no advise as usual.

Your answer:

Heavy is right, don't listen to those other drivers. If your just looking at the loads that advertise what they are paying then it really doesn't represent a true picture.

Don't listen to Landstar drivers also. Not many get that much. Take for example Rev.Vassago. He has hauled loads for Landstar at $.65 cents per mile.

Wow. So helpful. :roll:

Heavy Duty
03-10-2008, 01:20 AM
Don't listen to Landstar drivers also. Not many get that much

Guess I ought to get my dog in this fight(?)

Steve how do you know what most LS drivers are making, most, not one or two and remember they don't haul off the broker board.

Rev.Vassago
03-10-2008, 01:29 AM
Don't listen to Landstar drivers also. Not many get that much

Guess I ought to get my dog in this fight(?)

Steve how do you know what most LS drivers are making, most, not one or two and remember they don't haul off the broker board.

Booth has never even seen the LS load board, nor does he have any clue what flatbed loads pay @ LS. :roll:

rank
03-10-2008, 02:44 AM
I have not been able to locate a board that is paying okay money per mile......I am just looking for a highly recommended board that pays good money for flatbed loads. Please advise.
There isn't any.
I subscribe to DAT connect and my phone isn't ringing much.
The LS BCO's get more than an outsider gets for pulling the same LS load. Been there done that.

2
03-10-2008, 03:21 AM
I have not been able to locate a board that is paying okay money per mile......I am just looking for a highly recommended board that pays good money for flatbed loads. Please advise.
There isn't any.
I subscribe to DAT connect and my phone isn't ringing much.
The LS BCO's get more than an outsider gets for pulling the same LS load. Been there done that.What are the odds of 2 Landstar drivers piking up identical loads, at the same place, going to the same place, for different amounts?

Rev.Vassago
03-10-2008, 03:27 AM
I have not been able to locate a board that is paying okay money per mile......I am just looking for a highly recommended board that pays good money for flatbed loads. Please advise.
There isn't any.
I subscribe to DAT connect and my phone isn't ringing much.
The LS BCO's get more than an outsider gets for pulling the same LS load. Been there done that.What are the odds of 2 Landstar drivers piking up identical loads, at the same place, going to the same place, for different amounts?

If it is 2 different agents running for 2 different LS branches, I'd say the possibility exists.

03-10-2008, 03:40 AM
Steve how do you know what most LS drivers are making, most, not one or two and remember they don't haul off the broker board.

I've talked to a few drivers. One who had been sitting for almost a week at the Lowes distribution facility and another who was only given junk.

As far as the LS load boards, I'm an approved carrier and have an account on there and have hauled loads for them.

rank
03-10-2008, 03:41 AM
Technically LS doesn't have any drivers because LS doesn't own any trucks. They're smart, they only own trailers.

I don't know exactly what you're asking, but we are an independent carrier that is "LS approved" and we pulled a bunch of loads for LS a while back at $5/loaded mile. The BCO's (LS O/O's) that pulled the same loads got more.

Rev.Vassago
03-10-2008, 03:53 AM
Steve how do you know what most LS drivers are making, most, not one or two and remember they don't haul off the broker board.

I've talked to a few drivers. One who had been sitting for almost a week at the Lowes distribution facility and another who was only given junk.

The driver wasn't "given" anything. He chose the load he hauled, as LS has no dispatch system. :roll:

As far as the LS load boards, I'm an approved carrier and have an account on there and have hauled loads for them.

You don't have access to the BCO load board. :lol:

The load board you have access to requires no registration to access. Just for comparison sake, I checked the load board you have access to for flatbed loads within 50 miles of Chicago loading tomorrow, and got 90 results. I did the same search on the BCO load board, and got 115 results. The results weren't even the same loads. :roll:

03-10-2008, 04:02 AM
I'm logged onto the Landstar board right now with my Landstar carrier number. I've been approved since day one with them.

Rev.Vassago
03-10-2008, 04:03 AM
I'm logged onto the Landstar board right now with my Landstar carrier number. I've been approved since day one with them.

What's the web addy?

rank
03-10-2008, 04:03 AM
Speaking of owning trailers, allow me to digress a little.

John D Rockefeller felt that the railroads were charging him too much to move oil. His solution was to buy all the railroad cars he could get his hands on and had all the manufacturers building cars for him.*

There is more than one way to control freight I guess. Smart guy that John D.

*Source: "The Titan"

03-10-2008, 04:04 AM
What's the web addy?

Well, for someone who hauls loads for $.65 cents per mile I'm not surprised you don't know the address.

It's www.GoJumpInTheLake.com

Rev.Vassago
03-10-2008, 04:05 AM
What's the web addy?

Well, for someone who hauls loads for $.65 cents per mile I'm not surprised you don't know the address.

It's www.GoJumpInTheLake.com

:roll:

I bet it's www.landstarbroker.com :roll:

03-10-2008, 04:06 AM
ROTFLMAO :roll:

Rev.Vassago
03-10-2008, 04:10 AM
ROTFLMAO :roll:

Thank you for your interest in getting a User ID and Password to LandstarOnline.com. Landstar does not distribute User IDs to the general public. You must be affiliated with Landstar in order to receive a User ID.

Landstar Agents and BCOs may use the Register New Account option to obtain a User ID.

Orangetxguy
03-10-2008, 04:22 AM
Speaking of owning trailers, allow me to digress a little.

John D Rockefeller felt that the railroads were charging him too much to move oil. His solution was to buy all the railroad cars he could get his hands on and had all the manufacturers building cars for him.*

There is more than one way to control freight I guess. Smart guy that John D.

*Source: "The Titan"

LOL..Rockefeller may have bought his own rail cars...but he still had to pay the railroads to move them, same as XOMX, DUPX, GATZ, etc; do today. It can take 2 weeks for a rail car to move from a plant here in the Beaumont area to a plant in the Houston area....cheap...but late.

Heavy Duty
03-10-2008, 12:30 PM
I've talked to a few drivers. One who had been sitting for almost a week at the Lowes distribution facility and another who was only given junk.

As far as the LS load boards, I'm an approved carrier and have an account on there and have hauled loads for them.
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So you have talked to a few drivers, say 10' that would equal about 0.0011% of their BCO's, sounds like a good cross section. What about the 50% of the loads that never reach either load board?
They have some operators like everyone else that don't have a clue how things work, and they also have some of the best in the industry.

Any guess what the top operators grossed?(1099 amount)

rank
03-10-2008, 12:34 PM
Speaking of owning trailers, allow me to digress a little.

John D Rockefeller felt that the railroads were charging him too much to move oil. His solution was to buy all the railroad cars he could get his hands on and had all the manufacturers building cars for him.*

There is more than one way to control freight I guess. Smart guy that John D.

*Source: "Titan"

LOL..Rockefeller may have bought his own rail cars...but he still had to pay the railroads to move them...
But he controlled the rail cars... so they made a deal IIRC. Rockefeller let them have rail cars in exchange for cheaper rates.

03-10-2008, 01:13 PM
So you have talked to a few drivers, say 10' that would equal about 0.0011% of their BCO's, sounds like a good cross section. What about the 50% of the loads that never reach either load board?
They have some operators like everyone else that don't have a clue how things work, and they also have some of the best in the industry.

Any guess what the top operators grossed?(1099 amount)

I have no idea. I was asked if I knew any and I did run into a few. I would guess that if it was such a tremendous company then every O/O would be leased on to them. I've done OK with the loads I've hauled for them.

CelebrityTrucking
03-12-2008, 12:18 AM
WOW!!! I didn't mean to start World War III Gentlemen. It seems as if it is some bad blood somewhere on this Thread, I just hope all of you all know that we are in this boat together, just trying to feed the family. With gas prices the way they are, it should bring us closer together. That is just a thought.

But thanks for all of the replies to help me and my guys & ladies to get on a better load board. Have a Blessed Day

03-12-2008, 04:42 PM
I have not been able to locate a board that is paying okay money per mile......I am just looking for a highly recommended board that pays good money for flatbed loads. Please advise.
There isn't any.
I subscribe to DAT connect and my phone isn't ringing much.
The LS BCO's get more than an outsider gets for pulling the same LS load. Been there done that.What are the odds of 2 Landstar drivers piking up identical loads, at the same place, going to the same place, for different amounts?

That happened several times while I was leased to them !!! Needless to say it was corrected n everyone made the same amout and the agent had a lot of questions to answer ??? Also caught them lieing about the freight $ amounts on some of the Gov GBL loads that had the real rate printed right on the GBL !!!! Someone was in trouble for that 1 too !!!