Members List

[Roadhog]

? it's gone...? :?

[shyykatt]

:shock: uh-oh......

[Twilight Flyer]

I'll have to ask Jeff about it, but I'm guessing it was moved on purpose to end the spammers once and for all. We've got full control over their junk now, but they still rely on getting their websites into their profiles in order to get clicks. Removing the members list will remove the last little opportunity they have to spam us.

[Jackrabbit379]

That's interesting. After I read roadhog's post, I was like, "member list? What's he talkin about?" I looked up, and it wasnt there. :shock:

[Roadhog]

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/Leland10/jessica-alba-bikini-pic.jpg

we are still looking...but you are helping much right now... are you? :evil:
:evil: :evil:

[Jackrabbit379]

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Uh...apparently, I'm not much help. :|

[yoopr]

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/Leland10/jessica-alba-bikini-pic.jpg

we are still looking...but you are helping much right now... are you? :evil:
:evil: :evil:

Watch your hand there Buddy

[CAD]

I did delete the member list to discourage the spam we were getting.

The member list is now gone.

[Ridge Runner]

I did delete the member list to discourage the spam we were getting.

The member list is now gone.

I for one could not see any useful purpose for it to be there anyway except for spam.

Looks like you closed the last door for the spamers. :wink:

[Twilight Flyer]

The memberlist was really just a way to keep tabs on the top poster. Yoopr had that sewn up last year.

:P

But the search function is still there, so if anyone needs to find a poster, that's the best way to do it.

[Roadhog]

You know...there are much more important Board issue to address anyway. :?

Such as Thread Topics.

I realize there is a certain amount of need for attention getting.
I understand a message board is a misfitted excuse for social contact,
and possibly stems random workplace violence.

But a thread on......."What is your Favorite Ice Cream ?"
What will be next? ..."What is your Favorite Color ?"

We really should be discussing...
If you were Judge Sauer...
"What Sentence Would You Have imposed Upon Paris ?"


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[Twilight Flyer]

Jeff removed the memberlist link for a reason...eliminating spam. Yes, the list is still there, but it is just not linked. It would be much appreciated if it remains unposted. That's not a request, by the way. There is a lot of leeway given to posters on this board. There are some things, though, that just need to be left alone. Thanks.

[CAD]

This is an exact copy of a PM I sent to Rev.Vassago concerning the memberlist.


Rev.Vassago

It was brought to my attention that you re-posted the memberlist after I removed it from the board yesterday.

I specifically removed it to deter the amount of porn and prescription spam that we see every day due to folks setting up a membership just to get a link to their site from our forums. It is a common blackhat method of search engine optimization to increase the amount of links to a website.

If you ever do anything like this again, I will personally delete your account from our forums. You have been a good poster here, but what you did was directly against the wishes of the owner of this board, not just one of the moderators. It was childish, selfish, and irresponsible of you to do so.

If you have any questions you can call me at the numbers shown below.

Thank You,

Jeff Phillips
President
CAD Enterprises L.L.C.
311 South Main Street
P.O. Box 735
Madisonville, Ky 42431
270-821-2389
888-830-2326
Fax: 270-821-2743

[Rev.Vassago]

This is an exact copy of a PM I sent to Rev.Vassago concerning the memberlist.


Rev.Vassago

It was brought to my attention that you re-posted the memberlist after I removed it from the board yesterday.

I specifically removed it to deter the amount of porn and prescription spam that we see every day due to folks setting up a membership just to get a link to their site from our forums. It is a common blackhat method of search engine optimization to increase the amount of links to a website.

If you ever do anything like this again, I will personally delete your account from our forums. You have been a good poster here, but what you did was directly against the wishes of the owner of this board, not just one of the moderators. It was childish, selfish, and irresponsible of you to do so.

If you have any questions you can call me at the numbers shown below.

Thank You,

Jeff Phillips
President
CAD Enterprises L.L.C.
311 South Main Street
P.O. Box 735
Madisonville, Ky 42431
270-821-2389
888-830-2326
Fax: 270-821-2743

And this is an exact copy of my response.

It was brought to my attention that you re-posted the memberlist after I removed it from the board yesterday.

No, I didn't.

I specifically removed it to deter the amount of porn and prescription spam that we see every day due to folks setting up a membership just to get a link to their site from our forums. It is a common blackhat method of search engine optimization to increase the amount of links to a website.

If you ever do anything like this again, I will personally delete your account from our forums. You have been a good poster here, but what you did was directly against the wishes of the owner of this board, not just one of the moderators. It was childish, selfish, and irresponsible of you to do so.

Perhaps you need better sources of information. I simply fixed a bbcode tag on a post of mine. The link was still there, as was someone's response which included a quote of my post, which also included the link.

If it was an issue to provide the link, then perhaps someone should have properly deleted it instead of leaving the address intact, and the bbcode broken. A simple PM explaining the edit to the post would have been nice too. Had I known that a moderator edited the post, rather than thinking that I had simply screwed up the bbcode [url] tag, then I would have left it be (or would have gone back and properly deleted the address).

The link never disappeared, it was simply a broken link. The response that included my post with the link intact was still there at the time I repaired the broken bbcode. If this was an issue, then a simple PM telling me why you deleted it would have sufficed.

I would love to know what was so "childish, selfish, and irresponsible" about repairing a broken bbcode in a post of mine.

[Roadhog]

:?
I side with Twilight Flyer and CAD on this.

I brought up the question, and it WAS immediately pointed out this was removed for a reason.
Semantics over the details of that is not really productive. The chain of command was enacting protocols.
It simply is not wise to interfere where not invited, nor commissioned.

Before I asked the question,
I think we all had a fair assumption this was done because of new procedures to increase security.
All of us are aware of recent member banning as well as the ongoing spam plague.

Another assumption one might make is I am flexing my ego, and superior knowledge right now,
and maybe I don't mean it in a malicious or irresponsible manner.
Egos are construed selfish and often childish to everyone with the less superior mind, in question. :lol: :? :)

Before anyone chooses to paste and parse words with me...keep in mind...I'm already laughing,
for I am a genius, and therefore way ahead of you. :lol: ...yer too late. :P

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/Leland10/geniusi.jpg
(Hoggius Egotestical Intellecti)

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/Leland10/smile.gif

[Rev.Vassago]

:?
I side with Twilight Flyer and CAD on this.

I brought up the question, and it WAS immediately pointed out this was removed for a reason.
Semantics over the details of that is not really productive. The chain of command was enacting protocols.
It simply is not wise to interfere where not invited, nor commissioned.



Whether semantics are productive or not is irrelevant. I've been wrongfully accused of doing something underhanded here, and since CAD has chosen to advertise the "behind the scenes" stuff, I feel that I need to defend myself here, instead of via PM.

I simply posted a link for those who wished to view the memberlist, as it wasn't (at the time) "deleted" or "now gone" as CAD stated - the link was simply removed from the header. I never questioned why the link was removed from the page headers, and fully understood the reasoning behind it (although I disagree that it helps to cut down on spam, as the spammers are unable to PM any of the members here anyway since the 50 post rule was enacted, and as evidenced by this thread, there are probably only about 3 people who actually look at the memberlist).

I totally disagree with CAD that I was trying to circumvent their moderation process. Whoever edited my post screwed it up, plain and simple. They left the web address for the memberlist intact, and simply deleted one half of the [url] bbcode, so that it was unclickable. I assumed that I screwed up my bbcode when I first entered it, and simply fixed it. Nothing childish, selfish, or irresponsible about it. If it was so bad, then why was the response which also included the link left intact, and if it was so bad, then why did I receive no PM requesting that I delete it (or at the very least giving me a heads up that it was deleted)? The only PM I have received is the one that CAD was nice enough to post in this thread, threatening to delete my account, and accusing me of things that are simply untrue.

Had any one of the moderators stated in this thread that they didn't want anyone to link to the memberlist page, then I wouldn't have done so. I'm not psychic, and I didn't violate any of the rules set forth by the owners of the website.

If anything, they should be thanking me for showing that anyone who has even the smallest bit of knowledge of standard phpBB websites could still find their memberlist, as the "memberlist.php" is pretty much standard throughout all phpBB websites for the memberlist page. Since this all went down this morning, the entire page had been replaced with this (and rightfully so):

The memberlist has been disabled to keep all the spammers from posting links to porn or any other site.

So, to CAD:

You're welcome :wink:

I guess that's what I get for trying to give a helping hand to a known member who was simply looking for the memberlist link. :roll:

[Twilight Flyer]

After perusing this thread a few times, I can only guess that we've got a bit of a misunderstanding happening in here. When I saw the thread this morning, the memberlist was URL-linked and went right to the memberlist (that has since been remedied, so is no longer an issue). I simply deleted the post and the ensuing posts after it and posted my message regarding it and locked the thread. I cannot address whether it was originally edited/changed last night or anything, as I have no knowledge whether that is the case.

The bottom line is that the memberlist link was removed to eliminate the last vestiges of spammer attraction. Most spammers would simply create a login ID with their website in their profile, which attracts clicks from board users who are scanning the memberlist for just that reason. Most of the time, a spammer would not even post, relying on that link to get their hits.

Having moved login creation to a manual approval system and now having removed the memberlist, spammers are a thing of the past. Sure, one or two might get by through creating what appears to be a legit user name, but with no way to list their website, they end up banned and gone before they can get anywhere. So this site has effectively become worthless to them...as it should be.

Regarding the warning that Jeff posted on this thread, it was a warning to pretty much everyone. Personally, I think it's allright to bait the mods now and then...we're all pretty laid back and we can take some joshing and ribbing. :P But the lesson to be taken from this is just don't go out and do something that even appears to be circumventing a preventive procedure put in place by the board owner. It's the perception that it creates and one that you don't want hanging over your head.

Remember, the board is owned by Jeff and Lucinda...we all just exist in this little e-world. All in all, they are pretty hands-off owners, relying on a few mods and a whole lot of good and mature posters to make this a great board. I know Jeff and Lucinda; I've met them both and chat with them often; they are fantastic people. But they are also business people, through and through. Any and all decisions they make regarding this board and website are based on creating and maintaining a successful business. And it's something they are pretty good at. As a matter of fact, we mods have all been promised rather large baronies when they take over first Kentucky and then the country.

:D

[yoopr]

what in the world is a "Baronie"?? :P

[Roadhog]

what in the world is a "Baronie"?? :P

Baron (knee).(lower Appalachian French) A Baron in name only.

aka...a Homeless Moderator living off a useless title. :? :cry:

[Rev.Vassago]

After perusing this thread a few times, I can only guess that we've got a bit of a misunderstanding happening in here. When I saw the thread this morning, the memberlist was URL-linked and went right to the memberlist (that has since been remedied, so is no longer an issue). I simply deleted the post and the ensuing posts after it and posted my message regarding it and locked the thread. I cannot address whether it was originally edited/changed last night or anything, as I have no knowledge whether that is the case.

Well, someone edited it (or attempted to), and I assumed that is what he was referring to. When I did so, it was just because I was trying to be helpful to the person (or people) who were looking for it.

The fact that it was deleted is not my issue - if the powers that be didn't want it there, that was fine. My issue was with the accusation that I was attempting to undermine, or in some way "one-up" the owners of the website. If I had done something that was deliberate, and was attempting to circumvent blocks put in place, then I wouldn't be complaining. But my intentions were innocent, and yet I was still wrongfully accused, and the tone taken by him in accusing me was uncalled for. This could have been handled much more quietly and tastefully.

This is not unlike the issues with certain posters who were being "called out" in recent weeks. There is a PM system in place, and I just don't see why this stuff needs to be aired out in the open.

But whatever. I'd still love to know who edited my post (or attempted to), since that was where this all started. If it was that bad, then it should have been deleted in the first place, as well as any post that quoted it, which has since happened.

[Twilight Flyer]

My issue was with the accusation that I was attempting to undermine, or in some way "one-up" the owners of the website.

Which was the perception that I was alluding to. :? What's done is done and out in the open; no cat in the bag or anything like that. I don't believe there was actually any blatant attempt to "one-up" the owner, but I can also see where the perception might be viewed differently.

Baron (knee).(lower Appalachian French) A Baron in name only.

aka...a Homeless Moderator living off a useless title.

Just for that, Hogster, you are not invited to any of my Barony Bashes. Bawdy wenches and kegs of ale and purloined French wines (only the best).

No soup for you! :wink:

[Scoe]

My issue was with the accusation that I was attempting to undermine, or in some way "one-up" the owners of the website.



No soup for you! :wink:

One year!!

[Roadhog]

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/Leland10/jessicaalba.png
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/Leland10/lengua9ep.gifhttp://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/Leland10/lengua9ep.gifhttp://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/Leland10/lengua9ep.gif

If you truly have Baron potential...then you will have no trouble with this bit of trivia.

Who is this a photo of?

No cheating. http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/Leland10/icon_cheesygrin.gif

[Rev.Vassago]

DUH

Jessica Alba.

[Roadhog]

......so easy a Caveman could do it. http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/Leland10/smile.gif

...or a Pirate. http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/Leland10/pirate.gif


....well...this is gonna be a l-o-n-g year.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/Leland10/index-1.gif

[Scoe]

......so easy a Caveman could do it. http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/Leland10/smile.gif

...or a Pirate. http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/Leland10/pirate.gif


....well...this is gonna be a l-o-n-g year.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/Leland10/index-1.gif



You know, I can read Penn Gillette's lips...
I am rubber, you are glue, whatever you say bounces off me and lands on you :shock:

[Jackrabbit379]

You know, I can read Penn Gillette's lips...
I am rubber, you are glue, whatever you say bounces off me and lands on you :shock:
Yeah, uh, :shock: something like that. :? :lol: :P