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barriomusic
01-21-2007, 07:59 PM
anybody work for these guys before? im quiting PAM transport this monday. thinking about buying a truck and running for central refrigerated. just wondering if anybody has any idea what the operations are like over there. also considering MELTON. for any new b's i wouldnt recommend PAM to my worst enemy.

capone
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Uturn2001
01-21-2007, 08:03 PM
Let's see.

You can work for someone as a company driver and get paid for it

or

You can get set up in a lease purchase deal and pay the company to work for them.



Must be nice to be so independantly wealthy and bored that you can afford to pay companies to put you to work. :roll: :roll:

mikey4069
01-21-2007, 08:56 PM
anybody work for these guys before? im quiting PAM transport this monday. thinking about buying a truck and running for central refrigerated. just wondering if anybody has any idea what the operations are like over there. also considering MELTON. for any new b's i wouldnt recommend PAM to my worst enemy.

capone
http://www.myspace.com/caponesite A friend of mine did that fleece deal at central and lost there butt. Stay away from the fleece deals. :cry:


Useless
01-21-2007, 09:42 PM
anybody work for these guys before? im quiting PAM transport this monday. thinking about buying a truck and running for central refrigerated. just wondering if anybody has any idea what the operations are like over there. also considering MELTON. for any new b's i wouldnt recommend PAM to my worst enemy.

capone
http://www.myspace.com/caponesite


Stay away from any Fleece Purchase program; they are monetary vacuum cleaners.

Melton is a top notch flatbed company.

devildice
01-21-2007, 10:03 PM
anybody work for these guys before? im quiting PAM transport this monday. thinking about buying a truck and running for central refrigerated. just wondering if anybody has any idea what the operations are like over there. also considering MELTON. for any new b's i wouldnt recommend PAM to my worst enemy.

capone
http://www.myspace.com/caponesite

if I read that correctly.......he did not say to lease FROM them, but to buy a truck and lease TO them.......completely different than the flease programs

mikey4069
01-21-2007, 11:18 PM
Lease/ purch with central thats what the tread is called ? :?

Bumper
01-21-2007, 11:42 PM
I wouldnt mind leasing MY OWN TRUCK to Central, they do have alot of freight. But no way would I lease one from them....nope, nada, nichts, never happen.

I have some friends who are a married team driving a leased T2000 from Central and only because both of them drive did they do it.

barriomusic
01-22-2007, 01:58 AM
ok maybe i should explain myself better. i was going to sign on to central and buy a truck from them and also work for them. basically im trying to just buy a truck, run for them till its payed off. i talked to 2 drivers who are making it work for them at central and 1 driver who said he was throwing in the towel. so basically its a gamble. my main goal is to pretty much work towards buying a truck, then using that truck as collateral to buy another, then another, put my sister thru broker licensing and bid my own jobs. so bottom line is, has anyone actually made it with central? or is it a bad and lost cause to even try to lease purchase with them?

devildice
01-22-2007, 02:09 AM
ok maybe i should explain myself better. i was going to sign on to central and buy a truck from them and also work for them. basically im trying to just buy a truck, run for them till its payed off. i talked to 2 drivers who are making it work for them at central and 1 driver who said he was throwing in the towel. so basically its a gamble

In that case, do a search on here and you will find that most will recommend AGAINST leasing or buying a truck from the same company that is signing your checks......although there may be a few out there that make it, many, many do not. Good luck

01-22-2007, 02:18 AM
How is Central if you're a company driver?

Bumper
01-22-2007, 02:19 AM
Well you will have to be a company driver first then. And you have to be on for 4 months and you have to average over +/- 10000 miles a month or they will not lease you a truck. When you stop in at West Valley City you will see the trucks siting on the lot because the leasors turned them in and went on down the road.

Good luck to ya. Read the fine print and be prepared to be pushed all over the place so that you can get your miles.

Bumper
01-22-2007, 02:31 AM
Alex, the biggest problem with Central is that they are a Reefer company. There is no such thing as drop and hook in the business. It is all live loading and unloading at a Walmart DC or whomever. So you have to get there and wait your turn. Your waiting and your wheels arent turning but the clock is and before you know it you have just enough time to pull out and go park someplace cause your hours are over for the day. Its not uncommon to show up at 0600 and not get loaded until 15 or 1600 and your on the clock the whole time. But, the dickheads that booked the load have you clocked out at 0800 because they know for sure it only takes 2 hours to get loaded so why are you still in Denver at 1730 when you should be in Utah by now? And why arent you delivering in San Diego tomorrow?

I got into some horrendus phone calls with loaders and finally was told to not call West Valley City again. Then again, Im an old guy and I am not afraid of them and will call B.S. when I see it. I think the building had a collective sigh of relief when I quit.

But, otoh, they will pay for your school and teach you how to drive and all you owe them is one year.

proffit
01-22-2007, 04:28 AM
your right thier are almost no drop and hook,
but if the usa goes the same way as canada it will say alot.

in canada you have a loading/unloading time booked, as a driver if u miss your time cause of your fault start kissing dispaches ass and have them issue you a new time and a check for a 1000 bucks, the check goes to the company ( walmart/cosco ect).

but now the companies are also gettting dinged for makeing the drivers sit around and waste time, time is money and thats both companies mottos.

but aside from highjacking the thread.... your nuts to do a lease purchase plan, you will be able to get the miles to be able to do the program, but after a while your miles will deminish and your expenses will continue to accumulate, after after busting your butt and getting a weekly check for a few dollars not the thousnads and thousands you expect,

if your willing to try and make it work, all the power to ya, but my recomendation is, go take a cooking and butchering couse, cause that road kill you see down the highways and interstates will start looking damn good after a month of only being able to afford MR. noodle!

jnk2001
01-22-2007, 05:26 AM
Ok. I can see where it will get to be a drag. you know, the old tennessee ernie ford song, "I sold my soul to the company store."
And if you have kids, a home, bills, yadda, yadda. Then it can take a serious bite out of your life. But if you don't have bills, kids are grown, live in your truck, it could make you some cash.

Uturn2001
01-22-2007, 04:06 PM
Here is something else you should know about Central (and most companies) lease purchase programs.

They are not really purchase programs. You lease the truck and when the lease is done and you want to buy the truck you have to come up with more money, which is the "fair" market price of the truck, which could be $40-$50,000.

Ian Williams
01-23-2007, 07:20 AM
Use the search feature

L/P been proven to be a raw deal.

Not only has this topic been beaten to a bloody pulp on here, its now being processed into Soylent Green to be served at a cheap truckstop buffet.

Scoe
01-23-2007, 03:39 PM
Soylent Green is people, er, I mean Fleece Purchase. :shock:

tootie04
01-24-2007, 12:35 AM
We are doing lease purchas with Arrow and we are making it BUT, I would not recommend it AT ALL. We are 90% sure we will not make it to the end of our 5yr lease. (2007 KW) we really are working on BUYING our own truck. (we should know by the end of the week)

With lease/purchase you are tied to that one company and you depend on them for your very survival. When you own your truck....if life sucks you can go elswhere.

You are going to make up your own mind but dont be afraid to take the good advice of the seasoned wise ones on this board.

tootie

mike3fan
01-24-2007, 01:03 AM
We are doing lease purchas with Arrow and we are making it BUT, I would not recommend it AT ALL. We are 90% sure we will not make it to the end of our 5yr lease. (2007 KW) we really are working on BUYING our own truck. (we should know by the end of the week)

With lease/purchase you are tied to that one company and you depend on them for your very survival. When you own your truck....if life sucks you can go elswhere.

You are going to make up your own mind but dont be afraid to take the good advice of the seasoned wise ones on this board.

tootie

I love this post,more importantly I love the signature line under it.... :shock:

azcardnlz
03-02-2007, 02:58 AM
Alex, the biggest problem with Central is that they are a Reefer company. There is no such thing as drop and hook in the business. It is all live loading and unloading at a Walmart DC or whomever. So you have to get there and wait your turn. Your waiting and your wheels arent turning but the clock is and before you know it you have just enough time to pull out and go park someplace cause your hours are over for the day. Its not uncommon to show up at 0600 and not get loaded until 15 or 1600 and your on the clock the whole time. But, the dickheads that booked the load have you clocked out at 0800 because they know for sure it only takes 2 hours to get loaded so why are you still in Denver at 1730 when you should be in Utah by now? And why arent you delivering in San Diego tomorrow?

I got into some horrendus phone calls with loaders and finally was told to not call West Valley City again. Then again, Im an old guy and I am not afraid of them and will call B.S. when I see it. I think the building had a collective sigh of relief when I quit.

But, otoh, they will pay for your school and teach you how to drive and all you owe them is one year.

I work for Marten, we do drop and hook all the time.

mike3fan
03-02-2007, 02:37 PM
SaraLee in Zeeland,MI has a lot of drop and hooks for reefers too.