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    Default Clee - how's the hits post-politics?

    In terms of number of visitors, is the forum trending upward or downward?

    Or maybe post count is the better metric?
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    WHAT post count?

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    I can say that looking at the bottom of the main forum page, the number of visitors has hovered consistently around 125-150 every time I swing in.

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    The Politics folder went into effect August 3 or so. So we only have about 2.75 months of data. August had a lot of activity (probably partly as a result of people reacting to the change), September had a normal amount of activity, and October looks to be the quietest month since April.

    This site is odd in that activity goes up and down month by month. It doesn't seem to follow clearly discernible trends. Since moderation is fairly light here, it's up to the members as to what they make of the board.

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    CleeBee said:

    Politics folder went into effect August 3 or so.
    About the same time I got my first "warning" from you for doing what I'd done for about 6 years.

    So we only have about 2.75 months of data.
    WE.... only have about 6+ years of "data" from what makes this board work. You MIGHT have asked questions before "drawing from the hip."

    August had a lot of activity (probably partly as a result of people reacting to the change), September had a normal amount of activity, and October looks to be the quietest month since April.
    Sorry... my puter died in late August. It has taken me awhile to get "back" using this laptop. What.... you thought your "metrics" had anything to do with your ADVERTISING??? Or your.... "admining?"

    The "question" was... has traffic, participation, or satisfaction and "inducement" to visit this FORUM (not this SITE) gone UP or DOWN since the new Sherriff came to town?

    This site is odd in that activity goes up and down month by month.
    You're gonna try to sell me the idea that that doesn't happen on MOST boards?

    It doesn't seem to follow clearly discernible trends. Since moderation is fairly light here, it's up to the members as to what they make of the board.
    It cetainly USED to be...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CleeIB View Post
    The Politics folder went into effect August 3 or so. So we only have about 2.75 months of data. August had a lot of activity (probably partly as a result of people reacting to the change), September had a normal amount of activity, and October looks to be the quietest month since April.

    This site is odd in that activity goes up and down month by month. It doesn't seem to follow clearly discernible trends. Since moderation is fairly light here, it's up to the members as to what they make of the board.
    Thanks Clee, that echos my observations.

    I disagree just a little about your last point. People want to talk about what's important to them and for truck drivers that means trucks. But it also means world events and politics and everything else that determines quality of life. By restricting the conversation to topics which are more superficial, management has made the forum more superficial in nature. To put it another way, it's a little like dialing down the governor on a truck and telling the paid-by-the-mile driver that the job is what he makes of it.

    For my part, I still post way too often.
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    Traffic to this site went way down when I hung up my badge. Admit it, I'm the life of the party, even to Hobo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer View Post
    Traffic to this site went way down when I hung up my badge. Admit it, I'm the life of the party, even to Hobo.
    That's right! And, btw... the FMCSA is looking for you.

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    People can still talk about politics if they want - they just have a dedicated place for it, which was a compromise short of what the powers that be wanted, which was killing that discussion altogether.

    They just have to follow the board rules that were in place long before I came on. That includes treating each other with respect and no name-calling.

    The point of the board rules is to both keep discussion civil for existing members, but also make it productive for new ones. Flame wars with name-calling and disrespect do not attract new members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfhobo View Post
    That's right! And, btw... the FMCSA is looking for you.

    TheTrucker.com - America's Trucking Newspaper
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    A 50-question personality assessment asks for agree/disagree responses to statements such as I am the life of the party;
    Damn straight!

    I pay attention to details;
    The definitive cubed root of …oh look, a butterfly!

    I get stressed-out easily;
    Would microwaving cats fall into that category?

    I use difficult words;
    indubitably

    I leave my belongings laying around;
    Next time I step on a kid’s toy, I’m going to microwave it along with the cats!

    and I feel others’ emotions
    Especially when I tell a libtard to piss up a rope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichiganDriver View Post
    For my part, I still post way too often.
    That's not a bad thing!

    As Clee stated, we can still talk about that stuff which is good. Another place I frequent just shutdown their Politics section out of the blue. Apparently the folks who pay for ad space or something didn't like what was being posted in a restricted section so the owners shut it down with no warning. The owners put out an ultimatum, ANY politic talk is a ban from now on. They didn't spell out any "gray" area's, simply put you talk any type of politics whether it's sports related, trucking related, etc, your gone. Be thankful we can still talk about it here.

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    Jeff Boss for President......

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    Twilight Flyer said:

    Damn straight!
    My thoughts exactly. But, I'm not sure I'm allowed to use those words.

    The definitive cubed root of …oh look, a butterfly!
    Now you're just making fun of me and my ADD!

    Would microwaving cats fall into that category?
    Probably ONLY for the cats. Just sayin'

    indubitably
    Inexhorrably, unfoundedably, and extremely. [But, I'll still buy it and read it!]

    Next time I step on a kid’s toy, I’m going to microwave it along with the cats!
    The toy.... or the kid? [Just an editor's note.]

    Especially when I tell a libtard to piss up a rope.
    Ah yes... the good ole days. When you were the life of the party! I DO miss those days. Since you left, I have had no one to post stupid statements that needed rebuttal (or at least an argument) from me. Robertt has tried to fill in.... but, I am easily bored. [ADD, butterflies, and all.]

    And, as you can see.... I'm not allowed to "call names" or none of that other FUN stuff anymore!

    I gotta tell ya, dude.... when I investigated your links to your publisher and the book and all (which I did thoroughly,) ... and saw that PICTURE of you? Wow... what a shock. You look nothing like how I pictured you! You look like a...a... um... a.... TRUCKER! But... IIRC... you've never actually driven one, have you? Maybe, I'm wrong... and if so... I apologize. Doesn't matter.... you've always given us good advice and info from someone "inside" the industry.

    Yeah, I'm not ashamed to say I miss you, Twilight. We had our differences both private and public. And we had some great discussions and/or debates. But, I didn't miss the implications of your post that said that "after taking some time off, I can even put up with the likes of the Hobo." (paraphrased.)

    So, if X is constant (Hobo) and Y is a variable (Twilight) then, f/y = X , if and only if, X is positive. If X is negative... then Twilight wins!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95 View Post
    That's not a bad thing!

    As Clee stated, we can still talk about that stuff which is good. Another place I frequent just shutdown their Politics section out of the blue. Apparently the folks who pay for ad space or something didn't like what was being posted in a restricted section so the owners shut it down with no warning. The owners put out an ultimatum, ANY politic talk is a ban from now on. They didn't spell out any "gray" area's, simply put you talk any type of politics whether it's sports related, trucking related, etc, your gone. Be thankful we can still talk about it here.
    So.... who will be left on those sites to answer the "newbies" questions? Or will they all come HERE? And... for how much longer can THAT happen, if the same "robot mentality" takes over the administration of CAD?

    Just sayin' .... I don't really care. Got no skin in the financial end of this thing. Have never spent one minute on the CAD homepage... except when I have to re-login to the forum.
    Remember... friends are few and far between.

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    I can safely say that none of those members will be moving here and that's a good thing. It's a sports site that had an off-topic area kinda like the Anything-Everything section here. In that area they had a sub folder for politics. It was rough in there, needed a hard hat and waders to go in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfhobo View Post
    And, as you can see.... I'm not allowed to "call names" or none of that other FUN stuff anymore!
    That's because I took the ball and went home.

    I gotta tell ya, dude.... when I investigated your links to your publisher and the book and all (which I did thoroughly,) ... and saw that PICTURE of you? Wow... what a shock. You look nothing like how I pictured you! You look like a...a... um... a.... TRUCKER!
    Oh Lord help me now.

    But... IIRC... you've never actually driven one, have you? Maybe, I'm wrong... and if so... I apologize. Doesn't matter.... you've always given us good advice and info from someone "inside" the industry.
    I'm a bit more jaded toward the industry today than I was 10 years ago. I've learned a lot, seen a lot, and understand a whole helluva lot more from both sides of the ballgame. The industry is a ***** these days and everyone from your CEO to your driver, is struggling to discover where it's going to end up and where their place is going to be.

    Yeah, I'm not ashamed to say I miss you, Twilight. We had our differences both private and public. And we had some great discussions and/or debates. But, I didn't miss the implications of your post that said that "after taking some time off, I can even put up with the likes of the Hobo." (paraphrased.)

    So, if X is constant (Hobo) and Y is a variable (Twilight) then, f/y = X , if and only if, X is positive. If X is negative... then Twilight wins!
    There ya go again, thinking the world is out to get you. The only implication intended in that original post was that I don't really give a rat's hiney about the past. I've never been one to hold grudges...life's too short. It is what it is...water off a duck's back...and all of those fatherly advice lines that my kids hate so much.

    I left CAD because of two reasons - the smaller of the two was that I was simply getting burnt out on babysitting; had nothing to do with you as a person/poster or any other individual. I was just tired of having to be here doing what a mod does.

    The larger reason for my leaving was...well, now you know what that was. Writing is enabling me to plan for a life for my family far beyond what I could do driving a desk. It's tough and takes a lot of work. The 4 weeks spent editing had me up until beyond midnight every night working on the manuscript, getting it right. Hell, I even gained 6 pounds during those 4 weeks because I sat on my butt all that time. But the door is open and I'm going to take that path as far as it will let me now and quite literally, the sky is the limit.

    But back to CAD? I stop in now and then because I've been a member here for 9 years, a mod for 7+ of those. I've cultivated some friendships with some online personaes that can only be found here...and yes, that includes you, if you can believe it. I pop into another board occasionally, for the very same reasons. But I try and steer clear of the politics and the religion these days...no time to fight it out and no real inclination to mix it up any more. I'd rather direct my online meanderings to more worthwhile endeavors.

    Back when I was on the old Truck.nut a number of years back, I used to write satire under the name of The Poison Pen, kind of as my creativity outlet. I had a blast doing it and had more than a few late nights working out the prose. Maybe someday I'll break out that inkwell again and do one for CAD. Lord knows it was a lot more fun that fighting about politics and there's plenty of nutballs here that would provide some great fodder for one of those satirical leaps.

    But the point is, the political infighting and the bickering and arguing, while a somewhat enjoyable distraction at times, has lost any real appeal for me anymore. I always had more fun as a poster when I could be creative and make people laugh. When I was just making people cry because my political arguments were so spot-on and frustratingly impossible to refute, it wasn’t nearly as much fun. Today, I just don’t care for it much at all anymore. Focus changes, as it did for me.

    In the end, though, it ain’t about holding grudges. Sure, people piss me off and I destroy them as I destroyed you so many times. But to what end? And why hold on to the ire? So coming full circle? It wasn’t a negative implication…it was a ‘meh, it was what is was’ statement and that stuff is long past.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadhog View Post
    .........are you two gonna hug?
    Shhh...I'm busy hugging Shania right now as I give her a screen test. Mmmmm....warm....curvey....


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    [QUOTE= I'm a bit more jaded toward the industry today than I was 10 years ago. I've learned a lot, seen a lot, and understand a whole helluva lot more from [B]both[/B] sides of the ballgame. The industry is a ***** these days and everyone from your CEO to your driver, is struggling to discover where it's going to end up and where their place is going to be.

    There is always an exception to every rule: I have to say proudly as a driver I have never been more happy. This year has been the best year for my wife and I in the realm of job security and financial growth, monumental growth that has just blown my mind... I am even able to contribute a great deal more to my youngest daughters 529, if we are able to stay on this track she will have enough cash to complete graduate school "in state" if she chooses.. I think our good fortune is due to the fact that we are both in a business that has not been effected to much by our countries current situation, I love pulling fuel....

    By the way I have asked you guys to support Jeff Boss for president....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer View Post
    Shhh...I'm busy hugging Shania right now as I give her a screen test. Mmmmm....warm....curvey....
    oooOOOOooooOOooooooooooOOOo ...I hear ya mannnnnn!

    wet too!



    Hire me as her personal groomer!
    ...you do have a good lawyer...right?
    I have this pesky restraining order....... you know.


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