Really???

[robertt]

NOT MY WORDS

Obama vs. Obama | The Weekly Standard

YouTube - ‪Pelosi: Obamacare Will Supply 400,000 Jobs Almost Immediately!‬‏

44 - Biden predicts economy will create up to 500,000 jobs a month soon

Biden’s 500,000 Jobs Per Month; Long Way Away | Small Business & Financial News

[golfhobo]

robertt said:

NOT MY WORDS

Obama vs. Obama | The Weekly Standard

You STILL don't get it.... and you never WILL! Neither does the author of that article. When Obama mentions "raising taxes" he is referring to the MIDDLE CLASS (because THEY are the consumers in the market) and SMALL BUSINESSES (because MOST agree that they create 70% of the jobs.) .... And he has NOT raised taxes on them and has no intention to!

He gave YOU an extra $1,000 last year in payroll tax reductions, (on top of continuing the $1,000 reductions under the Bush tax cuts,) and MILLIONS or more in tax credits to Small Businesses. Furthermore... the "Revenue" increases proposed in the "Biden Debt Ceiling Plan," which raise ONLY a mere $400 Billion vs. about $2 Trillion in spending cuts, wouldn't go into effect until 2013.... supposedly AFTER the recession is over.

YouTube - ‪Pelosi: Obamacare Will Supply 400,000 Jobs Almost Immediately!‬‏

I don't know if Obamacare added 400,000 jobs or not.... do YOU? I DO know that he has created about 2.5 Million jobs in his first 2.5 years.... about what Dubya created in TWO TERMS! I'm sure SOME of them were as a result of Obamacare.

44 - Biden predicts economy will create up to 500,000 jobs a month soon

Joe Biden is NOT the President of the U.S. and in MY opinion, was not the best choice for V.P. Dubya declared "mission accomplished" with still over 4,000 DEAD American soldiers YET to come! And promised us that Iraqi oil would pay for the war! YOU DECIDE.... WHO was the biggest LIAR?

Biden’s 500,000 Jobs Per Month; Long Way Away | Small Business & Financial News

Do you even READ the stuff you post?

The good take from the job market in 2011 is that, unlike 2008, which only reported one positive month, 2009 that didn’t post one positive month, [partly due to reductions in PUBLIC/Gov't jobs!] ...and 2010 that was sporadic with record months and negative months and stable months… [There are currently 500,000 LESS employees on the Federal payroll than when Obama took office!]

The year that is 2011 has posted positive payrolls every month and is turning out to be the most consistent job market in the last 4 years.

Those are not "MY WORDS"... those are the words of The Small Business Marketing Blog! [except for the red letters... which ARE my words.]

YOU.... apparently.... still don't HAVE any words that are worth listening to. And your LINKS are even LESS impressive.

You are benefitting EVERY DAY from tax breaks that Obama has given you, yet you continue to "bite the hand that feeds you." That's SAD!

[robertt]

GOP Debt Ceiling Ace in the Hole: Obama’s Birthday Bash | The Blog on Obama: White House Dossier

Barack 'No Drama' Obama makes a stand on debt and finally loses his cool - Telegraph

President Obama abruptly walks out of debt ceiling talks - Jonathan Allen and Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com

Obama warns Cantor:

[MichiganDriver]

I see you're still stooping to the level of the low-lifes you despise.

[Mr. Ford95]

The man can't take it when the heat gets ratcheted up on him. He's starting to lash out big time, he should just take his ball and go home.

I do like Reid's excuse for why he walked out, the meeting was over folks. Yeah, only because he got angry that he wasn't getting his way, why keep the meeting going that he called once he walks out in a huff? I'm sure the meeting would have kept going longer had he not got his panties in a bunch. Crybaby, act like the leader of the United States and not some 5 year old, no wonder nobody takes us seriously anymore.

[MichiganDriver]

The man can't take it when the heat gets ratcheted up on him. He's starting to lash out big time, he should just take his ball and go home.

I do like Reid's excuse for why he walked out, the meeting was over folks. Yeah, only because he got angry that he wasn't getting his way, why keep the meeting going that he called once he walks out in a huff? I'm sure the meeting would have kept going longer had he not got his panties in a bunch. Crybaby, act like the leader of the United States and not some 5 year old, no wonder nobody takes us seriously anymore.

There's no getting you guys out of your dream world, is there? Obama might have walked out of the meeting as a negotiating tactic (as in adding some meat to his threat of default if Republicans don't start showing even the tiniest bit of willingness to compromise).

Our reduced stature in the world is thanks to Republicans FUBARing our economy. WTG Reagan, Bush and Bush.

[repete]

[QUOTE=golfhobo;500015]robertt said:




He gave YOU an extra $1,000 last year in payroll tax reductions, (



I DO know that he has created about 2.5 Million jobs in his first 2.5


Do you even READ the stuff you post?

$1000?? can you help me findit? I don't recall ever seeing that, I do recall seeing a couple bucks extra taken OUT of my check!

2.5 million jobs :rolf: thats his made up number and you believed it!! :rolf:

[repete]

[QUOTE=MichiganDriver;500162]There's no getting you guys out of your dream world, is there? Obama might have walked out of the meeting as a negotiating tactic (as in adding some meat to his threat of default if Republicans don't start showing even the tiniest bit of willingness to compromise).

QUOTE]

YEA!! thats about as good excuse as any! Why compromise? Why do we have to raise the debt limit at all? STOP THE SPENDING!! That would put money back in the coffers, simple but I guess they don't teach that at Harvard


If the US went bankrupt would obama have ANY blame at all or would all the money he's spent be chalked up to a "rescure effort"
Face obama/biden are IN WAY OVER THERE HEADS AND HAVE NO CLUE HOW TO GET OUT

[GMAN]

This administration lies so much you don't really know if they created any jobs or not. If they have created jobs, are the government or private sector jobs? If they are government jobs, then all that does is create more of a tax burden on the taxpayers. The only way to create real jobs is through the private sector. Obama's policies don't encourage job creation. In fact, they do the opposite. We see major corporations holding back funds due to uncertainty in the marketplace. Rather than spend that money creating jobs and expanding their business, many are standing pat. The same with smaller businesses. Many of us are not willing to take on debt to expand in an uncertain economy. We see no real leadership coming from the administration that will demonstrate a concerted effort to attack this deficit. What we do see is an a president and administration that is out of control on their spending. Their lack of control makes companies nervous. Business likes a stable market. Right now things are still uncertain. I think if Obama would show that he is willing to make real spending cuts that he would gain some confidence and support in industry.

[robertt]

Jackson Lee: Congress complicating debt ceiling because Obama is black - The Hill's Floor Action

[mitchno1]

it even on world page in our papers that he running out of suport and time to get the loan in 14 days or watever to get you outa the s..t .affects us our dollar 85cents against yours no good for our xports we want round 60 to 70,been high enough lately for us to buy all the imported goods we need lol

[GMAN]

This race card is not working with most of any more. Those who continue using it are themselves racists. The Black Caucus is a racist organization. Try to join if you are not black. I hope the Republicans hold tight on shutting the government down if they don't cut spending. I see no reason to raise the spending limit. If they cut spending then there would be no need to increase the debt limit. The problem with Obama and democrats is that they don't want to control their reckless spending. They seem determined to systematically murder this country. We either address this out of control spending now or we may not like how we need to address it in the future. We are rapidly approaching the time when we will no longer have the resources to even pay all the interest on our national debt. We need to get these people out of office and find those who will be responsible. Obama and company have NO concept of reality or how things work.

[Mr. Ford95]

There's no getting you guys out of your dream world, is there? Obama might have walked out of the meeting as a negotiating tactic (as in adding some meat to his threat of default if Republicans don't start showing even the tiniest bit of willingness to compromise).

Our reduced stature in the world is thanks to Republicans FUBARing our economy. WTG Reagan, Bush and Bush.

It's a lame tactic that has failed miserably if that is what it was. I highly doubt it was a negotiating tactic though, anyone with half a brain would know it would not work and the media would rip him up on it as walking out in a huff. The Repubs have shown willingness to compromise but they refuse to raise the debt ceiling without bigger cuts. All Obama wants is the debt ceiling raised, don't you wish you could do the same with your credit card? Tell them to raise your limit even though your already maxed out and see if they do it.

[MichiganDriver]

The Repubs have shown willingness to compromise but they refuse to raise the debt ceiling without bigger cuts.

Rubbish. What's your idea of compromise? 100% spending cuts and 0% tax increases?

Please provide a link to a Republican proposal that even approaches a 50%/50% mix and I'll provide a link to a Democratic proposal that gives Republicans a 75%/25% mix IN YOUR FAVOR. If you can't do it then please acknowledge that you're talking out of your keester.

[Mr. Ford95]

I'm not talking taxes Michigan so no, I'm not talking out my rear here. FYI though I have openly stated before that the higher class should pay their fair share in taxes but we must reduce our govt. spending. I would not mind 100% cuts to unneeded govt. spending and there is a lot of that out there.

I'm talking about our debt ceiling and the refusal to raise it by the Repubs. They are willing to do the tax increase on the higher class the Dem way, sleight of hand instead of an outright tax increase. Both get what they want in a way, taxes go up, Dem +, not done as an outright tax increase, Repub +. The hang up on the budget deal is raising the debt ceiling and making cuts to govt. spending which in the last 3 years has matched what Bush did in 8 years with 2 wars.

I must raise this question though, why is Obama all about raising the ceiling but he voted against it while a member of Congress during the Bush year's when Jr. wanted to raise the ceiling?

[robertt]

I must raise this question though, why is Obama all about raising the ceiling but he voted against it while a member of Congress during the Bush year's when Jr. wanted to raise the ceiling?

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...n=2&vote=00054

Obama On Debt Ceiling, Then And Now « Start Thinking Right

Obama: Not Always a Fan of Upping Debt Ceiling - By Katrina Trinko - The Corner - National Review Online

Flashback: 2006—Senator Obama Voted NO on Raising the Debt Ceiling « The Greenroom

[robertt]

Laura Ingraham Airs Scary ‘Obama Remix’ of Jimmy Carter‘s ’Malaise’ Speech | Breaking news and opinion on The Blaze

[MichiganDriver]

I must raise this question though, why is Obama all about raising the ceiling but he voted against it while a member of Congress during the Bush year's when Jr. wanted to raise the ceiling?

I'm not entirely sure (and I haven't looked into the links that Robert posted). I seem to recall Obama said that he was just getting started in the senate and what he did was wrong. That's right, iirc the man stood up and said he made a mistake. I could be wrong though.

I don't know how you're veering off into Dem+ this and Rep+ that (I'm getting the "+" thing) but it seems to me a 50/50 compromise would create a bill that both sides hate equally well and that would be about perfect.

[MichiganDriver]

It's a funny thing. The Republicans on this forum and Republicans in general sound like lawyers trying to get their client off on some technicality. Some of you go so far as to gather up quotes, vids etc from hate sites. Why not discuss the issue at hand in terms of the issue at hand?

Democrats must have hate sites too. Sooner or later a Democrat is going to join this forum that will post all that silly garbage, but now it will be from Democratic hate sites. What will you do? It will be your hate site against his hate site. Forum members won't be needed anymore, the hate sites can just go at it.

[repete]

[QUOTE=MichiganDriver;500271]Rubbish. What's your idea of compromise? 100% spending cuts and 0% tax increases?

QUOTE]

In this case YES!! Name one thing that we need to pump more money into and the amount. I bet we can then look around the rest of the bloated non-existent budget and find the funds to transfer. Problem solved!