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    You know what's creepy? When I read the comments it's like I'm eavesdropping on Robert having a conversation with his friends. That def feels a little weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichiganDriver View Post
    Did you happen to notice this link under the vid?

    Senate Rubber Stamps National Enslavement Bill
    Alex Jones couldn't write his OWN mother's obituary without making it an Obama conspiracy!
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    For the most part, I would have to agree that Contessa had her "hat hander to her" in this exchange. She did the right thing and apologized for it. The "lawyer's maxim" she quoted on facebook is one that we should ALL take to heart.

    But.... she was not wrong. With all due respect to the congressman's degrees and honors, he is "out-ranked" and out-voted by the large majority of economists in the WORLD who say we were within a "margin call" of a total collapse of the banking system both HERE (in America) and around the civilized world... and another market collapse that would have made '29 look like a ticker-tape parade!

    I don't know much about Contessa. She's not my favorite "skirt" on news shows, but SHE also graduated Magna Cum Laude with a BS in public communications/Journalism. I found it interesting that the Congressman, who certainly "is" an Economist, isn't on ANY budget/finance committees in Congress.

    So.... maybe he's not totally "up on" all the economic or financial considerations in Congress today over our Debt Ceiling Default. Or... maybe, as a junior congressman, he's just "toting the party line" and repeating the authorized mantra that denies we would REALLY go into default, or that our debt rating would "really" be damaged for the next 10 years!

    Either way.... he's definitely in the minority of Economists out there today in his views. Contessa, having heard SO MANY others disagree with him, MUST have had a moment of "on air" journalistic DISBELIEF.... and accidentally stuck her FOOT in there while her jaw was on the floor!

    But, I must add this. I was impressed with the fact that a junior Congressman from Alabama (is it?) would BE a well-educated and stable "professional." Y'all got ENOUGH "uneducated commoners" in Congress during the last election. They're called Tea Party Caucus members. I know how GMAN hates these other types... lawyers and "smart fellers," but... making LAWS really "IS" a job for grownups!
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    Another CEO of a successful company who doesn't know what he's talking about [sarcasm intended]

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/home...omists-get-it/

    http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily...190228219.html
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    So I read the article and I just can't figure out why it's significant and especially why you would post it. But then I read the comments and holy crap, these people are mad. You hang out there, which comments are yours?

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    Do you even realize that by posting that you've condoned the slaughter of children? Get some help.

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    robertt said:

    Another CEO of a successful company who doesn't know what he's talking about [sarcasm intended]
    Well... I don't know nuthin' about THIS guy... although I'm sure I'll take a peek at google later... but, I'm not so sure HOW "successful" he actually IS at the moment. He was the "Johnnie come lately" to the construction and home improvement market. LOWE's (at least) was surely his big brother. BOTH (most) of these stores rely on the "home construction" market for about 60-70% of their business! And THAT market is in the toilet!! On the other hand.... you'd think MANY people are spending money in these stores to "freshen up" the pig of a house they are trying to SELL! .... NOT because they think this is the TIME to sell.... but, because they have lost their jobs and can no longer afford even the INTEREST on the mortgage payments!

    But... the PEOPLE have no money to spend.... if they HAVE NO JOBS! HE is panicking because he sees people restricting their spending to FOOD, Education, GAS, and POWER bills, and not so much in things like appliances and LIGHTING!

    But, let's LOOK at his comments in this video, or actually some quotes from it that are part of the accompanying article.... which is what I will quote and discuss:

    Home Depot Co-Founder Bernie Marcus Blasts Obama Economy | TheBlaze.com

    The "accompanying article" from somebody at TheBlaze:

    In an interview with Investor’s Business Daily (IBD), Marcus blasted Obama and his policies, saying “even brain-dead economists understand that when you raise taxes, you cost jobs.”
    Apparently, Marcus ONLY listens to "brain-dead economists" cuz the facts just don't bear that claim out. Reagan raised taxes and created jobs. Clinton raised taxes and created even MORE jobs. Bush CUT taxes and created the FEWEST jobs in recent history.... and created an atmosphere that led to a financial and economic meltdown!

    Marcus: As he speaks about cutting out regulations, they are now producing thousands of pages of new ones. With just ObamaCare by itself, you have a 2,000 page bill that’s probably going end up being 150,000 pages of regulations.
    MORE whining about Obamacare! Geez. 150,000 pages?? Really?? A little hyperbole there?? Besides... most of the regulations in Obamacare affect the health industry, not HIS.... and not MOST corporations.

    Marcus: I‘m not sure Obama would understand anything that I’d say, because he’s never really worked a day outside the political or legal area. He doesn’t know how to make a payroll, he doesn’t understand the problems businesses face.
    Yeah, cuz I forgot.... someone remind me just WHAT company Reagan was the CEO of???

    Marcus: They [CEO's] are frightened to death — frightened that they will have the IRS or SEC on them. In my 50 years in business, I have never seen executives of major companies who were more intimidated by an administration.
    Well.... during HIS 50 years, corporations have run the government... and run our country into poverty! If they are NOW frightened about the IRS or SEC.... perhaps, they have something to hide???
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    I think that he has a reason to fear the IRS. Anyone who is in business should be very concerned with this administration and how he will use the IRS to socially engineer this country. He hired 16,000 new IRS agents/auditors. You can be assured that they won't be spending their time answering the telephone. From the direction Obama has been heading he has shown a disdain for business. Nixon used the IRS during his administration to go after his political enemies. He is a wimp compared to Obama and what he has in mind for this country.

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    Now that we have THAT "tripe" out of the way.... on to the second link which was much more informative.

    Return of Mass Layoffs a Grim Sign for U.S. Workers | Daily Ticker - Yahoo! Finance

    I guess the title caught his eye when "linked" to it from theBlaze.com. Don't know if he read the article, but.... surely didn't watch the NEXT 6 segments or so of the Daily Ticker. Probably just liked the rant from this Davidowitz character on the FIRST segment.

    I invested a half hour or so in watching the following "segments" which featured David Walker, former comptroller of the nation under Clinton and Bush. I suggest ALL OF YOU click the link, wade thru the first segment, and then listen to Mr. Walker. He's strong on spending cuts (so am I,) but he understands the causal relationship of LOW REVENUES to the deficit and the debt. He seems to be a right leaning Moderate (sort of like Mr. Ford) and I'm a left leaning Centrist.... so, I think WE could negotiate a settlement!

    When you get to the one with the bald guy (Macke) alone with the host.... that's a good one too!

    In fact, I suppose I could listen to these guys forever. Yahoo.Finace is a fairly "neutral" site.... and robertt just stumbled onto it without knowing what he was doing! MOST of the stuff on this link/show is not all that anti-Obama (except maybe the FIRST jerk that robertt listened to,) and I must thank him for leading me to it!

    If any of you care to spend a half hour listening to this David Walker guy... and I highly recommend it... you may, like me, want to know more about HIM and his "initiative." Here's the link I found when "I" got curious:

    Home - comebackamericas jimdo page!

    Read some of the reviews (and comments) .... well, ALL of them were interesting.... and then click on the upper left link to his CAI initiative. He has some really good ideas AND truthfull information!

    Maybe I'll get around to destroying Mr. Davidowitz's comments later. Maybe I'll get distracted. Who knows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMAN View Post
    I think that he has a reason to fear the IRS. Anyone who is in business should be very concerned with this administration and how he will use the IRS to socially engineer this country. He hired 16,000 new IRS agents/auditors. You can be assured that they won't be spending their time answering the telephone. From the direction Obama has been heading he has shown a disdain for business. Nixon used the IRS during his administration to go after his political enemies. He is a wimp compared to Obama and what he has in mind for this country.
    Obama is not head of the IRS, nor did the IRS hire 16000 agents, quit repeating lies. Nor has Obama shown distain for business,in fact he has been more business friendly than most. Quit fear-mongering 'that black man in the WHITE House gunna gitcha!' Btw its funny that you use a Rep. as an example of what bad things a Dem could do

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichiganDriver View Post
    Do you even realize that by posting that you've condoned the slaughter of children? Get some help.
    Don't worry Michigan.... they were just HIGH SCHOOL AGED children of "Socialist" parents, not yet able to choose their OWN college level "indoctrination," and therefore a THREAT to the Right-Wing NAZI looking WHITE GUY who was probably "told by GOD" to exterminate them!

    He's a HANDSOME "loser".... isn't he?

    I'm sure robertt was ONLY attracted by the word "Socialist" and didn't REALLY mean to support such a radical "solution" to the problem of LEGAL immigration of Muslims into European society! He probably thought they meant ILLEGAL "muslim" immigrants.... in which case, he probably would support the shooting of them.

    This SAD episode CLEARLY demonstrates the "limitless" extent to which Right-Wingers will go to preserve THEIR "ideal" of Theocratic and Aristocratic RULE over all countries of the World. .... Even one of the most "peaceful" and neutral.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One View Post
    Obama is not head of the IRS, nor did the IRS hire 16000 agents, quit repeating lies. Nor has Obama shown distain for business,in fact he has been more business friendly than most. Quit fear-mongering 'that black man in the WHITE House gunna gitcha!' Btw its funny that you use a Rep. as an example of what bad things a Dem could do

    You liberal racists have no way to combat the facts, so you incorporate racism into a post where it wasn't even mentioned. It was widely reported at one time that Obama was going to hire 16,000 new IRS agents to enforce the new healthcare mandates. Obama hates private enterprise. That should be obvious to anyone who bothers to listen to what he says and his actions. I didn't find where this administration has already hired 16000 new IRS agents, but did find where others have noted that it will take 16,500 new IRS agents to enforce the mandates. This will affect small businesses the most, should this mandate stand. This is the most anti business legislation that I have seen in recent years. And there are other thiings in this so called health care bill which has nothing to do with healthcare. In fact, the bill has more to do with selling insurance than healthcare.


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    Quote Originally Posted by golfhobo View Post
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    Yeah, cuz I forgot.... someone remind me just WHAT company Reagan was the CEO of???



    ?
    Does the state of Ca. count? Kinda forgot didn't ya?

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    NOPE.... on both counts.

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    I'm closing this thread, as it has devolved into a shouting match.

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