Joplin Tornado....AMAZING audio/video

[robertt]

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[4roses]

good lord have mercy .... the horrible fear those people went through .. and to think I live in tornado alley - but I've never experienced anything like what they did yesterday .. I wonder if anyone has heard how much damage was done to CFI/Conway in Joplin ?

[golfhobo]

Glad you're okay, Roses. I heard something about a Flying J in Joplin getting hit hard. I remember hearing MANY accounts of our driver/members here stopping in Joplin. I HOPE they are all okay! I hear that the "warning system" worked better than usual in this case. I wonder when the trucking industry is going to "invest" time and money in protecting their "assets?" Ships at sea and aircraft are OFTEN routed AROUND such storms, but I've never gotten ANY response from dispatchers that would indicate THEY are the least bit concerned... let alone PREPARED for these storms!

[Orangetxguy]

If you look at this link from OOIDA;

http://www.landlinemag.com/Special_R...tiVortex.shtml

At least two drivers desperately needed a shower when it was all over. Hopefully the SRT driver was belted in and was not severely injured.

[Malaki86]

Holy Blowhard Batman!

[Malaki86]

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Finally got a chance to watch/listen to this. OMG - that gave me chills.

[robertt]

Finally got a chance to watch/listen to this. OMG - that gave me chills.

It would be bad enough going through this by yourself, but with kids? I can't imagine.

[robertt]

If you look at this link from OOIDA;

http://www.landlinemag.com/Special_R...tiVortex.shtml

At least two drivers desperately needed a shower when it was all over. Hopefully the SRT driver was belted in and was not severely injured.

A little wider photo of the same thing

Tornado Tears Through Joplin, Mo. - Truckinginfo.com

[golfhobo]

robertt said:

The "sea" is a little bigger than a 2 or 4 lane Hwy, or a parking lot, or a town. Storms at "sea" are already established and you know which way they are traveling.

Since you didn't actually attack me, I'm gonna do this "nice." I used to fly 1 or 2 "rotations" around the Eastern Med Sea in one day.... day after day. It's about the size of the "midwest." Our "planners" were constantly monitoring the weather. If a storm was forming... or even LOOKED like it was forming... our route would be adjusted.

Storms "at sea" can pop up just like they do over land. But...and here's your lesson for the day... ALL storms follow the jet stream which moves West to East! A cold front or a low pressure system in Arizona on tuesday, will develop into a storm system in Oklahoma/Kansas/Missouri on Wednesday after it sucks up the warm air/moisture from the gulf! When a "supercell' system is noted, the projections are almost ALWAYS "southwest to northeast" unless the jet stream would dictate otherwise!

How do you "PREPARE" for something that just "pop's" up? Ever try to guess which way a tornado is going? (I have, a couple of times, and your lucky if you guess right.) Or where one is going to make an appearance? Ever been out this way and see how fast a Thunderstorm "pop's" up, or dissipates?

Tornadoes don't just "pop up." They are, at LEAST, "expected" when weather patterns are right for them. Usually a "warning" is issued long before even the possibility of an "event." I've BEEN in one... and I knew which way it was heading! I sure didn't think it would take a left turn and head NORTHWEST!

"Out that way?"..... every WEEK, once going west, and once going EAST! Lived 4 years in N.E. Texas (just below you) and 6 years in Denver (near the REAL "tornado alley!") I studied the weather channel and patterns. I know YOUR weather as well as YOU do!

Guy's with YEARS of weather experience, computers, weather data at their fingertips, sure don't know, they guess, but they don't KNOW.....

Yes, I understand this. But... they DO get all excited when there IS a possibility of one! You've seen it! The guys in the carolinas go ape**** over it!

and your expecting some dope who doesn't have a clue about what THEIR own job is anyway to "PREPARE" for something from Mother Nature?

Did I SAY that? Exactly? I'm saying that just ONCE I'd like to hear a dispatcher tell me, "we're expecting heavy storms... possibly a tornado... on your route. If you want to DEVIATE for safety reasons, we won't have a problem with YOUR decision!" In 6 years, it hasn't happened! I have been the one to tell them what I saw on the weather channel that night!

Perhaps you would like the government to come up with a solution

Well, I'm NOT for gov't intervention, but... since we already PAY taxes for NOAA, and many other agencies, it wouldn't be an INTRUSION if they put warnings on the DOT websites and REQUIRED dispatchers to check them maybe twice a day, and send WARNINGS to their trucks in the "affected area!" This is ACCEPTED PRACTICE for airlines!

Here.....go here tonight and/or tomorrow, if your home, click on "Live Radar" if it doesn't come up automatically, and watch the storms for a while from our local radar, especially in the afternoons, and watch how fast these storms can materialize or dissipate, and how fast they can move.

4Warn Storm Team's Coverage of Oklahoma Weather Starts Here - 4warn

No thanks. I don't NEED to. I don't drive in Oklahoma these days. But... I check the weather channel, and EVERY radar I can find if I think there is a possibility of a MAJOR storm on my route!

My route takes me through FIVE states EVERY day! The Appalachian mts., the Ohio valley, Eastern Tennessee, and the NC/GA/SC mtns. At any given time... that could be THREE different storm systems! You think I would be impressed by the local OK weather station?

I realize you've grown to dislike me robertt... and I can live with that. But, you apparently know very LITTLE about me. I have lived in, and STUDIED the environment and weather patterns, of nearly EVERY part of this country... and a few areas outside the U.S.A. I like to think that I can "smell" a storm coming.

But, my SIMPLE point was that.... trucking companies just MIGHT want to give us a warning now and then... you know... in case we're out there for a week or two with no CABLE T.V. and no INTEREST in checking the radar when we get to a truckstop! I don't mean ME! I'm concerned about OTHERS who are out there without a clue!

Please excuse me for CARING!

[robertt]

Could be an interesting day

4Warn Storm Team's Coverage of Oklahoma Weather Starts Here - 4warn

[robertt]

They are saying preliminary results are that it was an F-4,(198mph winds), tornado

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