Japanese Quake

[Windwalker]

By the time you read this, you'll probably already hear that Japan has been hit with the fifth highest quake ever recorded. As I'm writing this, the people there are still being advised to look out for a ten meter tsunami. That's about 30 feet. Don't know how far it's gotten right now, but that's one hell of a wall of water.

One report says a ship in a shipyard with 100 workers on board was washed away and they are looking for it. You guys on the road... You want to keep your eyes open for it? Might be riding on top of that wave. (No, actually, that's not very funny.)

The pictures from Japan are showing that, not only vehicles, but also houses and other buildings are being pushed around by the water like a bunch of sea-foam. Cargo ships have been washed inland and are laying on their sides. One report said 500 missing, another said 142 dead. Still another report said 300 dead and missing was unknown. This one is worse, by far, than the one that hit Haiti. (Maybe we can call this one "Obama's Fault")

I've been watching things like this. Seems to be more of them, and much more serious. I really don't want to say that it's building up to something, but....

Yellowstone hasn't blown it's lid yet, and 2012 is getting closer......

Just sayin'...

[Orangetxguy]

The waves were done with their dirty work by the time most of us were waking up, and some of us were going to sleep. You gotta remember....it is now close to 2 am Saturday morning, in Japan.

Hundreds killed in tsunami after 8.9 Japan quake - Yahoo! News

The tsunami went by Hawaii about 0730 this am, and just went past Santa Cruz CA an hour ago.

Tsunami Slams Into Santa Cruz Harbor - News Story - KTVU San Francisco


Now...as for 2012 coming.....maybe this.... AccuWeather.com - Astronomy | Extreme Super (Full) Moon to Cause Chaos? ........ Has something to do with today's earthquake in Japan??

[ilikeike]

Yellowstone hasn't blown it's lid yet, and 2012 is getting closer......

Just sayin'...

We no longer have 2012 to look forward to. There's a religious group touring the country right now proclaiming May 21st of this year to be the big day.

For now, the big story with the quake seems to be a containment/pressurization problem with a nuke plant. Fox has split it's tsunami coverage to address the nuke story.

[Mr. Ford95]

Yes, the nuke situation could turn into another Chernobyl, supposedly there has been a radiation spike around the plant...............

Yellowstone is the one end of world scenario everyone(scientists) are keeping an eye on. They aren't as worried about a meteor strike, the one the Russian's say will hit us in 2036, or the Polar Shift that is so f-ing slow it takes 6,000+ years to happen or Global Warming. They are most worried about the Yellowstone volcano. It is supposed to erupt every 6,000 years I think is what they said, it's been 6,400 years.................Yellowstone sits on what's currently known as the largest single magma pool on earth, if it goes most all of North America will be sitting under 3 ft of ash. Mt. St. Helens will be child's play if this one goes off, bigger than Krakatoa even. Now there is one volcano in the Canary Islands, if it decides to go up, not only will it destroy Europe and Africa with ash, it will put off a Tsunami that early studies show would reach the Appalachian Mountains for the US.

[Chunker]

From the National Park Service webpage:
Q: How imminent is an eruption of the Yellowstone Volcano?

A: There is no evidence that a catastrophic eruption at Yellowstone National Park (YNP) is imminent. Current geologic activity at Yellowstone has remained relatively constant since earth scientists first started monitoring some 30 years ago. Though another caldera-forming eruption is theoretically possible, it is very unlikely to occur in the next thousand or even 10,000 years. Scientists have also found no indication of an imminent smaller eruption of lava.

I really don't have any worries as an inhabitant of North America, but if I was living in Japan this week, did anyone tell me there was going to be an 8.9 to hit yesterday?

[Jackrabbit379]

It is so unreal! So sad.
You get shook up,.. and then, watered down.
I also heard that there was a tsunami that hit California?? Was that the same one by chance?

[Orangetxguy]

It is so unreal! So sad.
You get shook up,.. and then, watered down.
I also heard that there was a tsunami that hit California?? Was that the same one by chance?

Yuppers! It still has to make it's way to Peru and New Zealand...sometime tomorrow early am. They said it was a 17 foot wave that hit Crescent City CA. Didn't breach the sea wall into the downtown area..........but did flood the river channel and harbor.

[Orangetxguy]

From the National Park Service webpage:
Q: How imminent is an eruption of the Yellowstone Volcano?

A: There is no evidence that a catastrophic eruption at Yellowstone National Park (YNP) is imminent. Current geologic activity at Yellowstone has remained relatively constant since earth scientists first started monitoring some 30 years ago. Though another caldera-forming eruption is theoretically possible, it is very unlikely to occur in the next thousand or even 10,000 years. Scientists have also found no indication of an imminent smaller eruption of lava.

I really don't have any worries as an inhabitant of North America, but if I was living in Japan this week, did anyone tell me there was going to be an 8.9 to hit yesterday?

It didn't hit yesterday! It hit today!! Of course...you have that whole "International Dateline" thingy.........plus the basic time differential....plus the position of the sun, the moon and Aquarius. Time difference is right at 11 hours.......I think. From Seattle it is a 12 hour plane ride to Tokyo Narita Airport. Non-stop.

[Jackrabbit379]

Yuppers! It still has to make it's way to Peru and New Zealand...sometime tomorrow early am. They said it was a 17 foot wave that hit Crescent City CA. Didn't breach the sea wall into the downtown area..........but did flood the river channel and harbor.

That is crazy!!
How would you like walking down the street, and all of a sudden, a big ole bass falls right in front of ya...
Too bad we can't get some of that water. We need rain! It's dryer than a grasshopper on a hot grill!

[golfhobo]

Windwalker said:

By the time you read this, you'll probably already hear that Japan has been hit with the fifth highest quake ever recorded. As I'm writing this, the people there are still being advised to look out for a ten meter tsunami. That's about 30 feet. Don't know how far it's gotten right now, but that's one hell of a wall of water.

Actually, I was getting ready to go back to work last night, and had been watching the Islamaphobia hearings on Cspan when I flipped back to Fox or CNN and saw LIVE coverage about an hour after the quake hit. Unlike the Indonesian Tsunami (where the best pictures came from a rooftop,) the Japs already had news choppers in the air, and I saw the Tsunami come ashore AND an earlier picture of it while still "at sea." Amazing!

One report says a ship in a shipyard with 100 workers on board was washed away and they are looking for it.

Turns out it was actually only about 81 on board, but miraculously.... the ship was found at sea with "all souls" still aboard and safe!

The pictures from Japan are showing that, not only vehicles, but also houses and other buildings are being pushed around by the water like a bunch of sea-foam. Cargo ships have been washed inland and are laying on their sides. One report said 500 missing, another said 142 dead. Still another report said 300 dead and missing was unknown.

Fox just broke into "Hannity" (which I'm not really watching,) and said the confirmed dead were 417 or so, and the missing at over 800. But, I think that both will grow quickly. I heard THREE whole trains of commuters had just "disappeared," and that an entire village was wiped out.

I ALSO heard that the "tide" of the tsunami wasn't receding like normal. That is because the tectonic shift was SO pronounced that the LAND sunk by some extreme amount. It seems that some of the coastal communities will forever be under the ocean! Somewhere, a poor Japanese farmer just inherited "beach front property!"

Off topic, sort of, but to keep y'all abreast... I just heard that one of the reactors was very close to going critical. A meltdown MAY still be avoided, but it is becoming very "likely."

I have a real problem with this! The backup generators failed because they were diesel gens that got flooded out! You're telling me that the nearby U.S. base doesn't have some large capacity diesel gens that could be "heavy lifted" by chopper to the reactor site and "plugged in" in time to avoid this?

For that matter.... the country that is supposed to be the MOST proficient in Nuclear power technology (especially given their history,) put their BACKUP gens at SEA LEVEL???

This one is worse, by far, than the one that hit Haiti.

Yes and no. Although it is being compared moreso to the Indonesian Tsunami, they are much better prepared for one. And there is NO COMPARISON between the "hardened" infrastructure of Japan and the flimsy "mud and paste" construction of Haiti. What I'm saying is that the destruction in Haiti seems on a par at least with this one in Japan. Then there is the disparity in economic resources needed for the recovery.

(Maybe we can call this one "Obama's Fault")

Maybe we can leave politics OUT OF IT and just call it GOD's "fault."

[golfhobo]

How would you like walking down the street, and all of a sudden, a big ole bass falls right in front of ya..??

Beats the heck out of spending all day drowning a WORM! And I get dinner and a snapshot with my friends to boot!

[mitchno1]

got top of n.z. just after 7am this morn saterday bout foot high they said .did you notice how there buildings ok workers felt safe busy trying to save stuf inside them unlike ours where they fell down. , that bloody tidal wave amazing good photograhy

[mitchno1]

for got to say there a weather predicter over here who does weather a year ahead and he says Wellington N.Z isz going to be flattened on 20 of march this year .oops his weather predictions are pretty good.Ken Ring

[MichiganDriver]

Windwalker said:
For that matter.... the country that is supposed to be the MOST proficient in Nuclear power technology (especially given their history,) put their BACKUP gens at SEA LEVEL???

Good point. And on an island nation no less.

[Windwalker]

From the National Park Service webpage:
Q: How imminent is an eruption of the Yellowstone Volcano?

A: There is no evidence that a catastrophic eruption at Yellowstone National Park (YNP) is imminent. Current geologic activity at Yellowstone has remained relatively constant since earth scientists first started monitoring some 30 years ago. Though another caldera-forming eruption is theoretically possible, it is very unlikely to occur in the next thousand or even 10,000 years. Scientists have also found no indication of an imminent smaller eruption of lava.

I really don't have any worries as an inhabitant of North America, but if I was living in Japan this week, did anyone tell me there was going to be an 8.9 to hit yesterday?

I can't say that I've heard of any reliable means of predicting a volcanic eruption. That last eruption in Iceland came along without any warning. They'd be monitoring an active volcano, wouldn't they? If they're going to blow, they're going to do so warning or not. Seems that the same goes for quakes.

[Windwalker]

[B]Fox just broke into "Hannity" (which I'm not really watching,) and said the confirmed dead were 417 or so, and the missing at over 800. But, I think that both will grow quickly. I heard THREE whole trains of commuters had just "disappeared," and that an entire village was wiped out.

Last I heard, a thousand dead, or more. And, more than one town washed away.

I ALSO heard that the "tide" of the tsunami wasn't receding like normal. That is because the tectonic shift was SO pronounced that the LAND sunk by some extreme amount. It seems that some of the coastal communities will forever be under the ocean! Somewhere, a poor Japanese farmer just inherited "beach front property!"

Off topic, sort of, but to keep y'all abreast... I just heard that one of the reactors was very close to going critical. A meltdown MAY still be avoided, but it is becoming very "likely."

Actually, they managed to shut the reactor down when the shaking first started. There isn't likely to be any meltdown. However, there is still a huge amount of heat in the reactor core and they may have to vent steam in order to relieve the pressure. That means radiation released. Still, not anywhere near Chernobyl.

I have a real problem with this! The backup generators failed because they were diesel gens that got flooded out! You're telling me that the nearby U.S. base doesn't have some large capacity diesel gens that could be "heavy lifted" by chopper to the reactor site and "plugged in" in time to avoid this?

For that matter.... the country that is supposed to be the MOST proficient in Nuclear power technology (especially given their history,) put their BACKUP gens at SEA LEVEL??? :

The problem could be a bit more than just the flooded generators. It could also be other flooded electrical systems, Things like relays and solid state controls don't react well to salt water. Turning them on, if they got wet, would start a chain reaction that would disable the whole system. I'm quite sure that there are other generators in Japan that could easily be transported to the location. I suspect it's more than just the engines that are flooded out.

Wonder what the fires at their refineries will do to our fuel prices....

[firebird_1252]

last i heard there was 14 generators there that they had just set up. but i got up this morning and checked yahoo.com and it said there was a explosion at a plant. i jsut woke up and not too good for reading right now so i'll assume something bad happend over night.

[Mr. Ford95]

last i heard there was 14 generators there that they had just set up. but i got up this morning and checked yahoo.com and it said there was a explosion at a plant. i jsut woke up and not too good for reading right now so i'll assume something bad happend over night.

They had Battery Powered Generators that were running low on juice which means they can't cool the reactor which leads to a meltdown of it. The Japanese Army was hustling more batteries to this particular plant, ***u, but a 2nd one was also in danger with the same problem. The ***u plant was rocked by an explosion of a reactor building but it appears it was a good thing. Radiation levels are decreasing as the leak seems to be decreasing also. The explosion did not penetrate the reactor wall.

Authorities are still looking for 4 trains that may have been hit by landslides or tossed off the tracks from the shaking or tsunami. Those trains would have been packed full since the rail system in Japan is the world's most used and most efficient 24/7.

[One]

Thank you CAD news service! I remember Chernobyl well, People 1000 miles away hiding in thier homes from the radioactive cloud and rain; Couldnt drink milk for weeks, produce and meat contaminated.... If this happened in California, the cloud would go east, contaminate our fields. Enjoy.

[One]

Btw. the reactor core did melt down reguardless of what the news sais atm....radioactive Ceasium has been detected. That comes from the fuel rods having melted and the metal boiling.