It's not just truck driving jobs.

[Windwalker]

The current administration claims the job market has begun to turn around. If so, where is it going.

Future of America?s workforce: permatemps - Careers- msnbc.com

You know American workers are in bad shape when a low-paying, no-benefits job is considered a sweet deal. Their situation isn't likely to improve soon; some economists predict it will be years, not months, before employees regain any semblance of bargaining power. That's because this recession's unusual ferocity has accelerated trends — including offshoring, automation, the decline of labor unions' influence, new management techniques, and regulatory changes — that already had been eroding workers' economic standing. The forecast for the next five to 10 years: more of the same, with paltry pay gains, worsening working conditions, and little job security. Right on up to the C-suite, more jobs will be freelance and temporary, and even seemingly permanent positions will be at greater risk. "When I hear people talk about temp vs. permanent jobs, I laugh," says Barry Asin, chief analyst at the Los Altos (Calif.) labor-analysis firm Staffing Industry Analysts. "The idea that any job is permanent has been well proven not to be true." As Kelly Services, CEO Carl Camden puts it: "We're all temps now."

And, reading the rest of it, it really does make the trucking industry look sweet. Most companies are still giving drivers some benefits. The rest of the country looks like it's sliding into something else.

[GMAN]

Haven't you heard? The recession is over according to the administration. In fact, it was over about mid way into last year according to an administration spokeswoman that I heard earlier today. She stated that jobs are the last to come back? I suppose you have to be a bureaucrat to understand their logic.

[Windwalker]

Haven't you heard? The recession is over according to the administration. In fact, it was over about mid way into last year according to an administration spokeswoman that I heard earlier today. She stated that jobs are the last to come back? I suppose you have to be a bureaucrat to understand their logic.

I wasn't aware that your cheek could hold that much tongue...
There's a saying: "If you say something often enough, it becomes true." With the Bush Administration, it was weapons of mass destruction. Today, it's the economic recovery. But, with all the money spent to stabilize the financial market, it's going to mean higher taxes. More taxes will mean an even more sluggish recovery, it a recovery at all. I suspect that they're telling us that jobs will be the last to come because they really don't know what to do about that. Odd, isn't it? How common sense escapes them?

[Roadhog]

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[Dejanh]

with all the money spent to stabilize the financial market, it's going to mean higher taxes. More taxes will mean an even more sluggish recovery, it a recovery at all.

If it ends with higher taxes than we got out of it nice and easy, but i think that it will be much worse than that.
Entire economy relies on spending not only money earned but money that isnt earned as well. We have no one else to blame but ourselves as we were the ones who got into debt to buy toys and such.

Jobs that were lost are the jobs that should not exist at all and this is only the beginning of the process of the economy rebuilding itself from the burst bubble tha government is trying to re inflate.


we aint seen nothing yet...

[GMAN]

I wasn't aware that your cheek could hold that much tongue...
There's a saying: "If you say something often enough, it becomes true." With the Bush Administration, it was weapons of mass destruction. Today, it's the economic recovery. But, with all the money spent to stabilize the financial market, it's going to mean higher taxes. More taxes will mean an even more sluggish recovery, it a recovery at all. I suspect that they're telling us that jobs will be the last to come because they really don't know what to do about that. Odd, isn't it? How common sense escapes them?

I think these people leave common sense at home when they go to Washington. As soon as they hit the beltway it mysteriously leaves them.

[Kranky]

I think these people leave common sense at home when they go to Washington. As soon as they receive their kickbacks it mysteriously leaves them.

Fixed it for you Gman.

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[GMAN]

If it ends with higher taxes than we got out of it nice and easy, but i think that it will be much worse than that.
Entire economy relies on spending not only money earned but money that isn't earned as well. We have no one else to blame but ourselves as we were the ones who got into debt to buy toys and such.

Jobs that were lost are the jobs that should not exist at all and this is only the beginning of the process of the economy rebuilding itself from the burst bubble tha government is trying to re inflate.


we aint seen nothing yet...

We do have ourselves to blame for the situation we are in. Until the American people hold these people accountable there is no reason for them to change their ways. The government may be able to temporarily prop up the economy, but any recovery will lay at the feet of industry. And everything the government is doing works contrary to rebuilding a strong economy. The government policies initiated during Obama's first year will do more to hinder the recovery. Their policies involve huge tax increases. When taxes are high there is less money for spending which fuels our economy. There is less investment capital and less to spend on housing and other necessities. Capital investment means more domestic job creation. With more jobs there will be more money for individuals to spend. The solution is pretty simple. It is a matter of will.

[Windwalker]

We do have ourselves to blame for the situation we are in. Until the American people hold these people accountable there is no reason for them to change their ways. The government may be able to temporarily prop up the economy, but any recovery will lay at the feet of industry. And everything the government is doing works contrary to rebuilding a strong economy. The government policies initiated during Obama's first year will do more to hinder the recovery. Their policies involve huge tax increases. When taxes are high there is less money for spending which fuels our economy. There is less investment capital and less to spend on housing and other necessities. Capital investment means more domestic job creation. With more jobs there will be more money for individuals to spend. The solution is pretty simple. It is a matter of will.

I'm afraid there will also have to be some cooperation from government, and I do not see any of that coming in the near future.

[GMAN]

Fixed it for you Gman.

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Thanks. Your's is probably much more accurate.

[GMAN]

I'm afraid there will also have to be some cooperation from government, and I do not see any of that coming in the near future.

I am afraid that you are correct. The government seems to be working against the people.

[b00m]

That's why we'll emigrate to Mexico,China and the rest of Asia.Where all the permanent manufacturing jobs are you know?....

[GMAN]

That would be a switch. We will need to get a work visa to go to Asia or China. We can just walk across the border to Mexico.

[Windwalker]

That would be a switch. We will need to get a work visa to go to Asia or China. We can just walk across the border to Mexico.

And, we could tell the Mexicans we're leaving "OBAMERICA"...

[Windwalker]

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Come on, Hog. You're just as entitled as the rest of us.

[golfhobo]

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X2 (plus 3 characters.)

[Roadhog]

[bentstrider]

That's why we'll emigrate to Mexico,China and the rest of Asia.Where all the permanent manufacturing jobs are you know?....

I might get flack for this, but since many here in the US are already obviously aware of where the "accessible" jobs went, I always envisaged some type of reverse terrorist acts on foreign centers materializing.
I hear older folks telling me of the days when you could pretty much use a HS diploma to get a steady going, good paying blue-collar job and you would be set.

Nowadays, it seems that even having a Masters, or a PhD would be the only way to keep yourself anchored to a specific job for awhile.

Another thing that bothers me are these people I see that actually embrace this "floater" lifestyle.
They act like it's not the end of the world and it's refreshing to get hired, then let-go in a span of six months to a year.
To me, it's only going to be a matter of time before they "snap", or in most cases, "fizzle out".