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    Look at what he's done so far and it makes it kind of hard to argue with this...


    Dr. Krauthammer is an M.D. and a lawyer and is paralyzed from the neck down. A friend went to hear Charles Krauthammer. He listened with 25 others in a closed room. What he says here, is NOT 2nd-hand but 1st. The ramifications are staggering for us, our children and their children.

    Last Monday was a profound evening, Dr. Charles Krauthammer spoke to the Center for the American Experiment. He is a brilliant intellectual, seasoned & articulate. He is forthright and careful in his analysis, and never resorts to emotions or personal insults. He is NOT a fear monger nor an extremist in his comments and views . He is a fiscal conservative, and has received a Pulitzer Prize for writing. He is a frequent contributor to Fox News and writes weekly for the Washington Post.

    The entire room was held spellbound during his talk. I have summarized his comments, as we are living in uncharted waters economically and internationally. Even 2 Dems at my table agreed with everything he said! If you feel like forwarding this to those who are open minded and have not drunk the Kool-Aid, feel free.

    Summary of his comments:

    1. Mr. Obama is a very intellectual, charming individual. He is not to be underestimated. He is a cool customer who doesn't show his emotions. It's very hard to know what's behind the mask.The taking down of the Clinton dynasty was an amazing accomplishment. The Clintons still do not understand what hit them. Obama was in the perfect place at the perfect time.

    2. Obama has political skills comparable to Reagan and Clinton . He has a way of making you think he's on your side, agreeing with your position, while doing the opposite. Pay no attention to what he SAYS; rather, watch what he DOES!

    3. Obama has a ruthless quest for power. He did not come to Washington to make something out of himself, but rather to change everything, including dismantling capitalism. He can't be straightforward on his ambitions, as the public would not go along..
    He has a heavy hand, and wants to level the playing field with income redistribution and punishment to the achievers of society. He would like to model the USA to Great Britain or Canada .

    4. His three main goals are to control ENERGY, PUBLIC EDUCATION, and NATIONAL HEALTHCARE by the Federal government. He doesn't care about the auto or financial services industries, but got them as an early bonus. The cap and trade will add costs to everything and stifle growth. Paying for FREE college education is his goal. Most scary is his healthcare program, because if you make it FREE and add 46,000,000 people to a Medicare-type single-payer system, the costs will go through the roof. The only way to control costs is with massive RATIONING of services, like in Canada . God forbid!

    5. He has surrounded himself with mostly far-left academic types. No one around him has ever even run a candy store. But they are going to try and run the auto, financial, banking and other industries. This obviously can't work in the long run. Obama is not a socialist; rather he's a far-left secular progressive bent on nothing short of revolution. He ran as a moderate, but will govern from the hard left. Again, watch what he does, not what he says.

    6. Obama doesn't really see himself as President of the United States , but more as a ruler over the world. He sees himself above it all, trying to orchestrate & coordinate various countries and their agendas. He sees moral equivalency in all cultures. His apology tour in Germany and England was a prime example of how he sees America , as an imperialist nation that has been arrogant, rather than a great noble nation that has at times made errors. This is the first President ever who has chastised our allies and appeased our enemies!

    7. He is now handing out goodies. He hopes that the bill (and pain) will not come due until after he is reelected in 2012. He would like to blame all problems on Bush from the past, and hopefully his successor in the future. He has a huge ego, and Dr. Krauthammer believes he is a narcissist.

    8. Republicans are in the wilderness for a while, but will emerge strong. Republicans are pining for another Reagan, but there will never be another like him. Krauthammer believes Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty & Bobby Jindahl (except for his terrible speech in February) are the future of the party. Newt Gingrich is brilliant, but has baggage. Sarah Palin is sincere and intelligent, but needs to really be seriously boning up on facts and info if she is to be a serious candidate in the future. We need to return to the party of lower taxes, smaller government, personal responsibility, strong national defense, and state's rights.

    9. The current level of spending is irresponsible and outrageous. We are spending trillions that we don't have. This could lead to hyperinflation, depression or worse. No country has ever spent themselves into prosperity. The media is giving Obama, Reid and Pelosi a pass because they love their agenda. But eventually the bill will come due and people will realize the huge bailouts didn't work, nor will the stimulus package.These were trillion-dollar payoffs to Obama's allies, unions and the Congress to placate the left, so he can get support for #4 above.

    10. The election was over in mid-September when Lehman brothers failed, fear and panic swept in, we had an unpopular President, and the war was grinding on indefinitely without a clear outcome. The people are in pain, and the mantra of change caused people to act emotionally. Any Dem would have won this election; it was surprising it was as close as it was.

    11. In 2012, if the unemployment rate is over 10%, Republicans will be swept back into power. If it's under 8%, the Dems continue to roll.. If it's between 8-10%, it will be a dogfight. It will all be about the economy.

    I hope this gets you really thinking about what's happening in Washington and Congress. There is a left-wing revolution going on, according to Krauthammer, and he encourages us to keep the faith and join the loyal resistance. The work will be hard, but we're right on most issues and can reclaim our country, before it's far too late.

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    I think this guy has Obama's number. I think that just about anyone the Republicans put up could win in 2012. I am not crazy about any of the options that he listed as possible candidates. We need someone who can relate to the people and whom the people can relate. Romney and a few others who come to mine come across as elitist and I don't care for most of them. I am not sure that I would vote for Romney. I don't think that he is electable at this point. Obama still has some people fooled. They have no real idea of what his agenda will really mean to this country. That or they simply don't care.

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    Well, if this wasn't an accurate portrayal of what transpired at the meeting, it does seem to follow his writings. In any case, this guy seems to have Obama and his agenda down pat. He is moving at such an alarming rate as to get his agenda through before the American people have time to see what has happened. Fortunately, many people seem to be waking up. There even seems to be some dissention within the Democratic party, or perhaps it should be called the Marxist party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMAN View Post
    I think that just about anyone the Republicans put up could win in 2012.
    That’s the problem. Obama is governing so far to the left, that just about anyone the Republicans put up will win. The problem with the Republican Party was it got hijacked by the left and tried to out Democrat the Democrats during GHWB and GWB’s terms of office, as both the father and the son were/are stealth leftists.

    Not only that but during that period and thanks to both of those losers political correct multiculturalism afflicted the Republican Party just as badly as the Bubonic Plague afflicted the world during the Middle Ages, as the Republican Party used to be the party of defeat your enemies with overwhelming brute force, create deterrence, and then go home, but under Bush Senior and Bush Junior, the Republican Party matriculated into the party of endless fantasy based nation building missions in an effort to win the hearts and minds of enemies who are obligated by their religion to hate our guts no matter what.

    In any event, because Obama is governing from so far to the left and because his policies are so incompetent, it will hinder and possibly undercut the efforts by conservatives that are trying to steer the Republican Party back to their more conservative roots, and the liberals in the Republican Party will use Obama’s incompetence to further their cause.

    I didn’t vote for Juan “McAmnesty” McPain in the last election. I simply did not vote because as for as I was concerned, both major candidates, Obama and McPain, were leftists. Friends told me that I should vote for the lesser of the two evils and vote for McPain. I disagreed with them, helping the Republican Party continue to be hijacked and co-opted by the left in my book is the greater of the two evils.

    Nonetheless, when it is time to vote again the next time around, I will not vote for anyone unless they are sufficiently conservative and if the Republican Party continues to put up liberal candidates and to support liberals, then not only will they not get 1 cent from me, but I will steadfastly withhold my vote in protest again.

    Some people advocate that the Republican Party become the big tent party. That is move further to the left to attract more liberals. As for as I’m concerned, under both Bush’s it already moved too far to the left and the Republican Party better move back to its original conservative roots, or else a new conservative party needs to be established to put the new leftist hijacked Republican Party out of business.

    In any event, I can’t say that I’m surprised that the Republican Party has been hijacked, as the left has managed to hijack and co-opt every institution in this country and now even the military has been tragically hijacked by the left. Thus, this country will not be the same for my children and grandchildren. We conservatives drastically under-estimated the desperation of the left.

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    It doesn't matter who the Grand Ole Party nominates in 2012, if they continue to be percieved as the party of War, Hate, Big Spending, and the party of the angry White vote! Their days are numbered! I can't believe that some of you guys were pleased with the past eight years! Obama can't mess up no worst than Preident Cheney and Bush!

    Under the GOP majority you all were being lead by fear! They borrowed money from one enemy (China) to fight another enemy(Iraq)! Now they both have money and we don't have anything to show but Trllions of dollars of DEBT and Thousands of our young men and women (our children) dead!

    WHERE WAS ALL THIS UPROAR FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN WERE FIGHTING THE WRONG WAR?!

    I read an article in the Sundays Memphis Commercial Appeal, that it cost us (the middle class) 1 million dollars a year for one soldier to fight!

    HAVE WE LOST ALL OUR COMMON SENSE AS A NATION!
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    The Republican party got hijacked during the Reagan era. The only way some of the liberals could be re-elected was to change party affiliations from Democratic to Republican. There are many who will only vote for a particular party. They rarely, if ever, look at the candidates background or voting record. That is where they faulter. So many rely on what they hear from the media rather than do their own homework. As we have seen in recent years, the media has their own agenda which is definitely not in support of smaller government or conservative values. They make the news rather than report it. Much of what they do report is fabricated or slanted in such a way as to change the news. Just look at the "Tea Parties." These were portrayed as a very small group of nut cases. In reality, there were people all across this country who rose up in protest. At this point it is up to the American people to demand our country back. This administration seems hell bent on destroying this country and the values which have made it great. Everything they have done goes against everything this country has stood for over the last 200+ years. Neither of the Bush's were conservatives. We haven't had a conservative in the White House since Ronald Reagan.

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    Some people advocate that the Republican Party become the big tent party. That is move further to the left to attract more liberals. As for as I’m concerned, under both Bush’s it already moved too far to the left and the Republican Party better move back to its original conservative roots, or else a new conservative party needs to be established to put the new leftist hijacked Republican Party out of business.
    This pretty much is what happened in the New York 23rd district. Thanks for the seat! Keep up the good work, and soon we won't have to worry about the GOP at all.
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    And you lost 2 important governorships at the same time. I'm not sure how you liberals can call that a victory. The country is waking up, Hobo, and the paint is starting to chip off your golden boy. It's going to be really interesting to watch how Obama reacts to the growing dissension about him and his policies over the next couple of years.

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    Well someone needs to go off the deep end with this...so here goes nothing!

    I am a libertarian conservative, and these are my views and opinions.
    One thing I think we can agree on is how BOTH parties have drifted left, and so much so, there is very little difference between them. Liberalism is destroying this Country in my opinion. It bothers me to see articles like the one above, distorted by someones agenda with subtle embellishments, when the original script and message was fine in itself.

    Both Journalist and Politicians are bombarding us with both subtle and blantantly outrageous embellishments and distortions to advance their "hidden" agendas. It infuriates me to see Journalist and Politicians behaving like dirty filthy rotten liars and corrupt criminals, when they hold a position of public trust.

    Both radical forms of thinking (right and left) is destroying this Country, but liberlism in my opinion is the most destructive. In power right now of course is an extreme left radical liberal administration, and they are wreaking havoc on all our American freedoms and liberties. This in my opinion has all passed the point of no return. (the deep end begins)

    When you view this U.S. Debt Clock in real time, U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time run your cursor over a balloon title, and it will give you some info about the current totally insane figures. I believe the Obama administration is deliberately trying to destroy the USD. They already have control of 30% of the U.S. economy. This current health care bill has nothing to do with health care. It is a blantant attempt to take control of another 18% of the U.S. economy, bring the socialist control of our economy to 48% and growing. If they can destroy the USD, then nothing can stop them from advancing their radical fundamental transformation of America into a socialist/marxist government. When the USD is destroyed, you watch, they will base our value on Land and Resources. (what else is left?) Good luck keeping your property, landowners! I already pay over $8,000/year in property tax alone. I'm on unemployment now for the FIRST time in my 57 years! Where I live, our unemployment rate has been above 20% for a couple years now.
    Everything coming out of Washington D.C. is designed to fundamentally transform America. Why? That's not what we need or want!

    Many of us have been trying for some time to open peoples eyes to what is happening, and what to brace for. I learned of the fate of the United States back in the mid-80's through Prophesy. I pointed these views and beliefs out in detail over a year ago, on CAD. The Prophesy pointed to the downfall of our Country, which would be an Economic Downfall. I see this unfolded now to the point it will happen no matter what we see, think or try to do to stop it. It is happening, and it will consume our Country, and quite likely the ones in power at the time, will remain in power. This is not preaching fear. Just view the U.S.Debt Clock, and open your eyes to what is happening around you. Enjoy what freedoms you have left, as they will be gone in another year or two. The current admisistration is also seeking to control the internet... and they will. They already have been breaking the Constitution to silence individuals and organizations on a regular basis. (rant over, final chorus)

    When Isreal is forced to bomb Iran later this coming Spring, oil will skyrocket as will mid-East tensions, and the USD will crumble. (gas rates are already climbing because of the decline of the USD) The Annointed One, will be another step closer to becoming the God of this Earth, in the flesh. lol All hail the Great Satan. lol Bring on WWIII. Woopee, we're all gonna die!

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    Twilight Flyer said:

    And you lost 2 important governorships at the same time.
    Important? How many votes do THEY have in Congress?

    I'm not sure how you liberals can call that a victory.
    From CNN:

    Democrats sought to minimize the defeats. Since 1989, it was noted, the party winning the White House has always gone on to lose the gubernatorial races in both states the following year.
    Granted that is only two decades, but they are the most recent decades, showing that nothing has changed politically in those areas for 20 years. On the other hand.... the 23rd district hasn't had a democratic representative since 1971. Heck.... that's even BEFORE Carter!

    MORE IMPORTANTLY.... the election in NY is a "bellweather" of the civil war in the GOP that seems destined to doom the party for decades to come. You "conservatives" have cut off your nose to spite your face! As much as y'all LOVE to be in power, you would rather be "pure" and "right" than to be inclusive enough to regain that power. Sarah Palin is the "Ralph Nader" of your party. And it's about time y'all suffered the same dilemma of a divided base that WE have for so long.

    Good luck with that.

    The country is waking up, Hobo, and the paint is starting to chip off your golden boy.
    I don't see any signs of an awakening. I see the same drop in popularity that EVERY president suffers during his first year. I'm pretty sure I just heard that his approval rating is about average for a POTUS after his first year.... and certainly nowhere NEAR as low as Dubya's was after 8 years of hell. THAT is when America "woke up."

    It's going to be really interesting to watch how Obama reacts to the growing dissension about him and his policies over the next couple of years.
    Yes, it will. It will be a nice change to see a President react with CLASS, graciousness and intelligence!

    On the other hand.... IF any of his "policies" lead to improvements in the lives of average Americans, the MIDDLE class.... not the RICHEST, it will be interesting to see his approval ratings a few years from now.... just in time for the next presidential election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMAN View Post
    I think this guy has Obama's number.
    Why am I not surprised that you, GMAN.... the purveyor of internet rumor... were the first to jump on THIS bandwagon? Even after it was dispelled by SNOPES.

    In fact, it occurs to me that over the last year or so, nearly EVERY example of internet rumor with a "conservative" bent has been dispelled by Snopes. Whereas.... not a single Democrat has posted anything that has been likewise debunked.

    What does that SAY about the people that hold these disparate views on life and politics? It says ONE thing to me:

    Conservatives are gullible. And those who aren't... are bent on gaining or retaining POWER over the masses by LYING, CHEATING and STEALING anything they can.... especially the minds of those who ARE gullible!

    If your "product" was a good one.... you wouldn't have to LIE to sell it.

    If the author of this email hoax ISN'T intentionally lying.... then he just shows that Conservatives have such a warped Worldview as to be totally incapable of comprehending FACTS as they ARE, and can't be an honest partner in any political debate.
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    LOL, Jackrabbit! That was funny!

    Irrelevant and immature.... but funny.

    Ya got one of Dubya with a coke (silver) spoon up his nose and a bottle of Jack in his hands?
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    Quote Originally Posted by golfhobo View Post
    Ya got one of Dubya with a coke (silver) spoon up his nose and a bottle of Jack in his hands?
    No, I don't reckon I got one of them.

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    Hobro,

    From what I've heard, Snopes is run by David and Barbara Mikkelson of California and they have no formal background or experience in investigative research. They are Democrats and extremely liberal.

    I think it's plain both liberals and conservatives have purposely saught to discredit anything from the "enemy" camp. Key word "enemy" as our politicians LOVE to see us fight over crap, while they both plot and plan bigger government. There are just as many Democrats hidden within the Republican party, and vice versa. Look at Scozzafava (scuzzybitch who was a Democrat all along) Who is to say some of the "snopes gotcha's" discrediting a conservative point of view, was not purposely written by a liberal? Are we to blindly believe anything we hear or read anymore?

    Especially anything reported by the liberal media which has proven they have NO SHAME?
    Seriously, all our media these days is filled with BS. I'm hearing crap come out of Fox News as well. Not as bad, but BS at times never the less. But ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and MSNBC are more propaganda...than I can stomach. Many of the Newspapers and Magazines are worthless crap as well, filled with lies and propaganda.



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    [QUOTE=golfhobo;467745]Why am I not surprised that you, GMAN.... the purveyor of internet rumor... were the first to jump on THIS bandwagon? Even after it was dispelled by SNOPES.

    In fact, it occurs to me that over the last year or so, nearly EVERY example of internet rumor with a "conservative" bent has been dispelled by Snopes. Whereas.... not a single Democrat has posted anything that has been likewise debunked.

    What does that SAY about the people that hold these disparate views on life and politics? It says ONE thing to me:

    Conservatives are gullible. And those who aren't... are bent on gaining or retaining POWER over the masses by LYING, CHEATING and STEALING anything they can.... especially the minds of those who ARE gullible!

    If your "product" was a good one.... you wouldn't have to LIE to sell it.




    I guess it say's DEMs. NEVER EVER twist the facts for there benifit.. yeah right

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMAN View Post
    The Republican party got hijacked during the Reagan era. The only way some of the liberals could be re-elected was to change party affiliations from Democratic to Republican.....

    ...We haven't had a conservative in the White House since Ronald Reagan.
    Are you SURE that Reagan was such a conservative? IIRC, the term "big tent party" was originated during HIS campaign.

    Some people advocate that the Republican Party become the big tent party. That is move further to the left to attract more liberals.
    Actually, the way Reagan got elected was with the help of the "Reagan Democrats." That presupposes that he gained most of the "Independent" voters, and went BEYOND that to win over some registered Democrats (certainly NOT the liberals.)

    The policy behind the "big tent" is not to include LIBERALS, but to include MINORITIES who tend to vote Democrat or Independent.

    I was born in '56. The first POTUS I remember was Kennedy. Since then, there has been only Nixon, Ford and the Bushes on the Republican side. In MY lifetime, Republicans have been responsible for "subverting the election process" (TWICE) and fighting a war for oil and nation building. (I exclude Bush I in this, because he did NOT overstep his mandate.)

    The most prosperous and peaceful times for the middle class have been under Democratic rule with the possible exception of the gas crisis under Carter, which was due to circumstances unrelated to his policies.

    I guess what I'm saying is.... Reagan was the most popular Republican potus in my lifetime BECAUSE he was considered to be "big tent" and was mostly untouched by scandal and didn't try to ram his religion down my throat!

    I would really be interested in some information on how well CONSERVATIVES have done in the past (before my lifetime.) WHEN was the last time you Conservatives were "happy" with the government? Who was the potus? What was the world pardigm at the time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by repete View Post

    I guess it say's DEMs. NEVER EVER twist the facts for there benifit.. yeah right
    I didn't SAY that, Repete. I agree with you that ALL politicians can and do "twist the facts" now and then.

    But, the LIES come fast, furious and constant from the "right wing." All these LIES about "death panels," government takeovers, socialism... etc. I mean.... it seems that they NEVER tell the truth about anything!

    I'm SURE you saw where Jon Stewart caught Hannity "appending" video from the Beck rally into the coverage of the Michelle Bachman healthcare rally on the mall in D.C. Hannity had to apologize to the entire nation.... but, refused to actually admit that it was INTENTIONAL. Yeah, right!

    I watch MSNBC most nights. I KNOW it is "liberal," but.... Keith Olberman more often than not shows FACTS that dispell the lies being told by Michelle Bachman and many other Republican leaders and representatives. Rachael Maddow digs into the "sponsors" of many of the "conservative" so-called grassroots movements. I realize THEY, too, have an agenda. But.... facts are facts!

    Before you jump to conclusions.... I watch or listen to FOXnews about HALF of every day. I LIKE some of their reporters/journalists, and I like their coverage of topics of importance when sometimes CNN is airing "fluff."

    But, I KNOW when they are lying or distorting, and I usually find the PROOF on MSNBC later that night. How can "I" be right so often?
    Remember... friends are few and far between.

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