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    Some states will throw you in jail if you are caught without liability insurance. I had a driver who bumped into a car several years back. Her insurance had been canceled so she was taken to jail.

    I think that is wrong. We all should take responsibility for our own insurance, among other things. We have uninsured liability for those times when we may be involved with someone hitting our vehicles who doesn't have insurance. The way they structure these bills is that if you don't have insurance you are fined. If you don't pay the fine you go to jail. They are really side stepping the fact that if you don't have health insurance you will go to jail. While it is a good idea to have health insurance, it is not, nor should it be the business of the government to get involved. We have too much government involvement in our lives as it is. When something is mandated by the government it takes away the incentive for insurance companies to be competitive. Competition reduces costs to the consumer.

    If they want to make changes will make a difference is is very simple. And we don't need a 2,000 page bill to do it. It can be done in less than a page.

    Insurers must cover all including pre-existing conditions. Insurance companies are not to be restricted by state lines. If they underwrite insurance then they are no longer restricted by state lines. Insurance companies can no longer dictate to health care providers as to what tests are needed or what treatment they will pay for as directed by the patients physician. Tort reform MUST be a part of ANY real reforms. Damages must be limited or restricted so that so many unnecessary tests are not run by health care providers in order to protect themselves from litigation. I would expect that litigation is the single largest cost of health care. Many tests are run by providers in order to protect themselves in case of a lawsuit.

    Any health care bill should not be much longer than the above paragraph. Nothing that is not related to health care should be allowed to piggy back this bill. It should be an up or down vote.

    There is no need to make our system so complicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironeagle_2006 View Post
    First time the Goverment TRIES to throw someone in jail for not buying insurance the ENTIRE BILL WILL BE CHALLANGED IN COURT. Guess what will be thrown out as Unconsitutinal for that one and other things that are in it.
    I’m sorry to say that will not happen if the case gets heard by one of those leftwing judges the left has been flooding the bench with.

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    This will be the next President in 2012 with Sarah Palin as VP for one term.



    Then it will be Sarah Palin with Jeb Bush VP for the next two terms after that.
    Then Jeb Bush with Rush Limbaugh as VP for the two terms after that.

    ...just letting y'all know, incase you wondered.


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    Make MEEEEEEEEE President of the United States, and I promise you I will behave

    Make MEEEEEEEEE President of the United States, and I promise you a pot in every chicken......

    Make MEEEEEEEEE President of the United States, and I promise you more legislation without taxes... we will buy more Marijuana for man...


    David Peel For President 2012
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    Hell No! you liberal meatsack.
    We are designing Robots right now,
    that will kill you ALL!


    by the way...I'm just compiling data for my
    LibberDestructo Search & Destroy software...

    When yer liberal heads spin like that...
    does that mean your heads about to explode?

    Awah...yer okay...I'm just messin' with ya.
    (mutter-mumble...die liberal)


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    Radical liberal democrats are using extreme political propaganda now to get this unconstitutional health tax bill passed, against the will of the majority, and they will pass this by Christmas.

    I wonder how many Doctors will be coming into Trucking soon. My guess is this thing is going to fall flat on it's socialist face within the year. It will cost us many jobs and emense wealth, and we will get absolutely nothing in return, except a collapsed healthcare system. Good job democrats, you ARE making history.


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    Desperate times call for desperate measures. Obama see's his ClimateTax swirling the drain.

    Obama uses his executive power to use the EPA as a weapon, to strong arm the Congress into passing his ClimateTaxFraud Bill.
    Pass this Bill or I will destroy the US economy, and you will regret that.
    Sweet guy. Must be from Chicago, snif ...fahgettaboutit.

    Who can fahgett how he got the House to pass the first Bill back in a dark stromy Saturday night after midnight, June 27th, two days after Whacko Jacko croaked.
    Plus he got his left wing media propaganda machine to focus fererishly on nothing but a dead circus freak.


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    Let's see.... these people have now added a stimulus tax, global warming tax and soon to be added is a healthcare tax. Wow....that must be a new record for new taxes in one administration. And he is getting this done in his first year in office.

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    global warming tax. How funny.

    Yep. They will come to your house and say, "I see you have lots of pretty Christmas lights, and decorations. Sorry, but you will be taxed. Yall are burning everything up. Global Warming."

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    Well, Obama said he would donate his 1.4 million prize money from his Nobel POS medal to charity. I'd be happier if he used it to just reimburse American taxpayers for the jet fuel to go to this thing, and donate the medal to charity. They can melt it down and turn the gold in for some soup.

    Furthermore, why can't he have the gonads to tell these frickin' Nobel idiots to have the ceromony next week when he has to fly back there AGAIN, to support his global warming farce.
    Liars, leftwing mayonaise gargling elitists, and hypocrites.


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    Yeah.... Why didn't he just give that money to the US Treasury (or whatever it's called). He's always blowin smoke about how he's gonna change the economy, and he talks about how deep our country is in dept. Why didn't he just give it back to the country? That 1.4 million might not make a dent in the dept, but where I come from, everything adds up.

    I think that Nobel Peace Prize is a bunch of hogwarsh. Aint it from Sweden, or somewhere? Who gives a hoot about that..

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    The 1.4 million wouldn't be a gnats skidmark on the National Debt, but that is the minimum cost for just his jet fuel! Over 1 million pounds of carbon gas CO2 is emmitted as well.

    That is why I say he should donate his prize money to paying for the fuel, instead of taxpayers footing the bill on such a farce and lie.
    When you count all the support aircraft, security and staff going along, I'm sure the total figure is "classified." (that means way over actual costs...where the "extra" goes is anyones guess)
    ($1000 dollar bill toilet paper maybe?)

    Just a little while ago, remember Obama flew over to get the Olympics for his cronies in Chicago. Remember, Michelle HAD to go too...12 hours earlier, so she went over in Air Force 2. Can you imagine the combined two flights, support aircraft, security, staff etc. cost to American taxpayers! MILLIONS when our Nation is broke. These people are scum. They will spend, spend, spend and spend some more, all on borrowed money.


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    I read somewhere that these Obama and these global warming people are expending more CO2 emissions during this meeting than the entire country of Monaco does in an entire year. Just wondering.....does anyone else find this strange?

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