Soldier goes postal

[Twilight Flyer]

His religion has nothing to do with what happened.

You don’t know that. The investigation, not to mention ALL the news coverage (CNN, FOX, CBS, ABC) leans in the other direction. Right or wrong.

They’ve seized the guys PC. They’ve already got him on websites with an anti-American attitude. I don’t see where anyone has corroborated the “God is Great!” shouting he was allegedly doing, so I have not mentioned it. But in light of everything that is already laid bare, there is little reason to believe this is anything other than what it appears. Maybe it will, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

However, my point in the first post was to differentiate between this guy and the Muslim world in general and remember, that was in reply to a deleted post hammering on all Muslims. As you are already seeing (and I haven’t read the link to that story, but the title says it all), too many people are all fired up about it without using their brains. I’ve used mine, I KNOW this guy doesn’t represent the Muslim faith in general, and I have come on here and asked that everyone else view it the same way.

Again, I have a hard time understanding why you have a problem with that.

[Rev.Vassago]

you know what? i had a nice long response written up, but **** it. i'm outta here.

[Glad Hand]

Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer

You know, I was talking to my wife about this yesterday when I got home…this was before they released the info on the shooter. Then we got the guy’s name and the story about how he was comparing suicide bombers to heroes. And that brought up the following questions.

How in God’s name, did the army end up with a fanatical Muslim extremist as a major and in a position to do this?

And more importantly, when are the retaliatory attacks going to come against the innocent Muslims in this country?

Because it will happen. People are so on edge right now about all the garbage going on in the world, they’re going to see this as another attack on our home soil. Muslims were under heavy rhetorical fire after 911…now with 8 years of simmering anger and hatred to fuel the fire, I have a feeling it’s going to get way out of hand and transfer from symbolic to realistic. I certainly hope it doesn’t, but I’ve lost a lot of faith in humanity in general and simply believe it to be unavoidable.

All that said, though, let’s not get it started on this board. I can understand the feelings. I’m just as angry, disgusted, and shocked as anyone else. But we need to take a step back and not pour gasoline on the fires. If we’re going to discuss this, great. If you want to let it all hang out against the piece of trash that did this, by all means, let ‘er rip. But don’t let this turn into a religious or race war on this board.

Thanks.

Study Islam and what it inculcates. Read the Koran, the Ahadith, and especially the Sira (biography of Muhammad). Study the disturbing history of Islam. Read the works written by experts like Robert Spencer, Bat Ye’or, Hugh Fitzgerald, and many others, and you will soon learn that contrary to what our government’s official position is, Islam is not a religion of peace. In reality Islam is a very extremist ideology of conquest and anyone and everyone who adheres to that so-called religion is an extremist.

Study how in every Muslim country in the world without exception non-Muslims are discriminated against and treated as second-class citizens. Study how in every non-Islamic country in the world where Muslims have migrated they have refused to assimilate and integrate. Notice how every country in the world once Muslims start migrating soon become the victims of Islamic terror attacks that forces that country to double and triple the amount of resources they dedicate to homeland defense because of the excess baggage of the Muslims and their so-called religion. Also notice that in countries where Muslims have not yet immigrated, those countries have not yet become the victim of Islamic terror attacks in stark contrast to the countries where Muslims have migrated.

Of course, the Saudi financed Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan) front groups like CAIR will be out front and center spewing their taqiyya (deceptive propaganda) and denouncing the attacker’s actions as an act of depravity having nothing to do with Islam itself and peaceful Muslims, and of course the gullible politically correct liberal media will be giving them all the air time they want and need to spew their lies meant to deceive.

In the end, the attack will eventually be attributed to any and everything else but what it really was: an act of jihad by a pious Muslim. I mean I heard the general this morning repeatedly state that there is nothing whatsoever to suggest it was an act of Islamic terrorism. Even though the shooter was yelling Alllahu Acbar (God is Great!) while pulling the trigger and murdering his kafir comrades. Even though he denounced American foreign policy to his comrades and compared suicide/homicide bombers to soldiers falling on a grenade to save their comrades. There is nothing to say it had anything to do with the fact that he was a Muslim. Don’t even suggest that nonsense. Don't even go there.

[golfhobo]

Originally Posted by dobry4u

X2

I read where the shooter was taken down by a female Army police officer (who was one of the injured )...

YOU GO GIRL!

Actually, she was a civilian cop contracted to provide base security.

In an interview with AC360 on CNN, the male cop seems to be taking MOST if not all of the credit for bringing the shooter down. We'll see when they reconstruct the angles of the shots that took him down.

[golfhobo]

For the record.... his cousin stated that he was always Muslim. That is probably true. However, that doesn't preclude him from listing NO PREFERENCE on his military record. I'm a Baptist, but I could have claimed no preference.

[Glad Hand]

This incident had nothing whatsoever to do with Islam, being a Muslim, Islamic terrorism, or Islamic jihad. Per his cousin he was a victim of incessant persecution by his peers and it was this persistent persecution for his being a Muslim that led to him eventually cracking and unleashing this jihad attack upon American kafirs about to be sent off to fight his fellow jihadists abroad.

In any event we can all rest easy, it is very clear the good major to say the least was a so-called peaceful “moderate Muslim”… that is until he wasn’t.

[Pack_Rat]

It seems Rev.Vassago has an issue with the truth and also with people who disagree with his point of view. My previously deleted statement still stands. They all should be rounded up and deported.

[golfhobo]

Originally Posted by Pack_Rat

It seems Rev.Vassago has an issue with the truth and also with people who disagree with his point of view. My previously deleted statement still stands. They all should be rounded up and deported.

I AGREE!!

Um.... we ARE talking about the Conservatives, right?

[DaveP]

The shooter has now been tied to a mosque in VA also attended by two of the Sept. 11 hijackers at a time when a radical iman preached there...Alleged shooter tied to mosque of 9/11 hijackers | abcactionnews.com

[ironeagle_2006]

Found out something very interesting. Her Hubby is an MP and he found out why this AHLE had his car keyed. He was telling soliders that had just returned from Iraq and Aghanistan that the Muslims were correct in Killing them. These were troops that had buddies killed overseas and this Major AHOLE is telling them that some MUSLIM THAT USED AN IED WAS DOING ALLAHS WILL TO KILL HIS COMRADES IN ARMS. Yet the Armay refused to do anything about HIM. He got this info from a MP that had just transfered out of HIS unit 3 months ago and was assigned to Fort Hood.

Could this be WHY MAJOR AHOLE HASSON GOT HIS CAR KEYED.

So Why are the MSM refusing to cover this.

[BigDiesel]

Looks like things have changed here...... All of this drama over a ( I guess you didn't get the part about use of such language ) murdering 13 innocent people........

Or did you think Rev's little rant about no moderation on the board was a new standard? Try to pull that crap again and you WILL be out on your ass ASAP.

[Syncrosonix]

not just in this case, which is a sad one, i have felt muslims of arab descent and/or muslim converts should be barred from being able to join the UNITED STATES armed forces. they all go rotten at some point. it may not be immediate. it's only a question of when they will, and act upon allah almighty's will. feck islam!

the army is also pretty jacked up, too. i'm still quite pissed off at that branch for the whole pat tillman debacle.

[Mackman]

Originally Posted by Syncrosonix

i have felt muslims of arab descent and/or muslim converts should be barred from being able to join the UNITED STATES.

Fixed it for you

[Syncrosonix]

Originally Posted by Mackman

Fixed it for you

well, that works, too, dude!

[golfhobo]

Originally Posted by ironeagle_2006

Found out something very interesting. Her Hubby is an MP and he found out why this AHLE had his car keyed. He was telling soliders that had just returned from Iraq and Aghanistan that the Muslims were correct in Killing them. These were troops that had buddies killed overseas and this Major AHOLE is telling them that some MUSLIM THAT USED AN IED WAS DOING ALLAHS WILL TO KILL HIS COMRADES IN ARMS. Yet the Armay refused to do anything about HIM. He got this info from a MP that had just transfered out of HIS unit 3 months ago and was assigned to Fort Hood.

Could this be WHY MAJOR AHOLE HASSON GOT HIS CAR KEYED.

So Why are the MSM refusing to cover this.

Hate to spoil your pouting party, dude. This has been reported and discussed by CNN and others since the first day. Heard it with my own 3 ears!

[golfhobo]

Originally Posted by Syncrosonix

not just in this case, which is a sad one, i have felt muslims of arab descent and/or muslim converts should be barred from being able to join the UNITED STATES armed forces.

they all go rotten at some point.

it may not be immediate. it's only a question of when they will, and act upon allah almighty's will. feck islam!

the army is also pretty jacked up, too. i'm still quite pissed off at that branch for the whole pat tillman debacle.

Your entitled to whatever opinion you want to have, dude. But, just so you KNOW..... "this" is the kind of ignorant racist remark that got this thread locked the first time.

I've heard interviews over the last few days with Muslims who have fought bravely in both of these ill conceived wars. I wonder what opinion THEY might have of you? Refresh my memory..... how many years did YOU serve?

[ironeagle_2006]

However Golf why are they refusing to discuss the last case of a Muslim going NUTS. In 2003 a 101st Sargent throwing Gernades into tents in Kuwaitt and killing multiple Officers. Fox brought that up and so far has been the only one to do so.

[Syncrosonix]

Originally Posted by ironeagle_2006

However Golf why are they refusing to discuss the last case of a Muslim going NUTS. In 2003 a 101st Sargent throwing Gernades into tents in Kuwaitt and killing multiple Officers. Fox brought that up and so far has been the only one to do so.

that jerk-off was a muslim convert.

hobo, i'll be racist toward arabs if i feel like it. they haven't done squat about curbing the lingering suspicion since 9/11, the london bombings, and madrid also. you don't hear them going out and protesting against radical islam.

[Glad Hand]

We just suffered the biggest Islamic jihad terrorist attack on our homeland since 9/29. Meanwhile, we have B. Hussein Obama in the White House telling us not to rush to judgment.

It is sort of like we have a president today who is dithering on whether or not to continue a silly fantasy-based nation building mission in Afghanistan to try to win the hearts and minds of Muslims who are obligated per their religion to hate our guts no matter what, while Iran, on the other hand, with impunity and while thumbing its nose at the kafir non-Islamic world is on the verge of acquiring the Islamic bomb, which will inevitably lead to the proliferation of nuclear weapons across the entire Dar al Islam.

Yep it’s obvious B. Hussein Obama and his ilk have their priorities straight. Not that the Republicans and unfortunately many conservatives today aren’t also as blind as a bat as well when it comes to Islam and Muslims! Whatever happened to quickly and forcefully obliterating our enemies ASAP, creating deterrence, and then going home? Apparently, political correct multiculturalism has afflicted our society every bit as bad as the Bubonic Plague afflicted the world during the Dark Ages.

Not only that but we are having mosques now all across the country asking for extra police protection because of a feared backlash by so-called Islamaphobes or people who otherwise legitimately criticize Islam, even though so for, knock on wood, there has been no backlash.

In other words, like they deceptively have been doing for many years now, CAIR and the other many Saudi funded Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan) groups are using this tragic event to make the Muslims out to be the victims in the minds of the gullible, clueless, and naive politically correct.

Considering the current occupants of the White House and the current majorities in Congress, along with the long established alliance the left has had with Islam, in the end this event will be attributed to a psychopath who just snapped and decided to unleash an attack in which 13 of our finest were shot down in cold blood and 38 were maimed and injured. Unfortunately, no heads will ever roll for this monstrosity!

Sort of like GWB never fired and even promoted those multicultural politically correct moonbats whose incompetence led to 9/11. Instead, GWB just appointed an idiotic 9/11 commission to sweep their incompetence under the rug and to justify doubling the size of the federal government under the guise of protecting the homeland and to also make accommodation, per his Saudi and Gulf States benefactors, for Muslim immigration and all the excess baggage it carries along with it.

Don’t look now but this country is being auctioned off by our so-called leaders and not necessarily to the highest bidders. Unfortunately, there will be no more America left over for our children and grandchildren. It is a very sorry and sad state of affairs and I don’t like it one bit!

[Ridge Runner]

Originally Posted by Syncrosonix

not just in this case, which is a sad one, i have felt muslims of arab descent and/or muslim converts should be barred from being able to join the UNITED STATES armed forces. they all go rotten at some point. it may not be immediate. it's only a question of when they will, and act upon allah almighty's will. feck islam!

the army is also pretty jacked up, too. i'm still quite pissed off at that branch for the whole pat tillman debacle.

The part that I highlighted in red is the ONLY part of your post that I feel is wrong. I don't think that ALL of them are bad. Just by the numbers there has been only a small % of problems compared to the total numbers. This is just my opinion and you are free to express yours as long as it does not involve racial slurs ( as some one above tried to insert just to cause problems for those that truly want to debate the topic ). I'll leave it to the other posters to correct each other where they might see things in a different light. All I ask is that you guys do it in a respectful manner and "try" to follow the rules.