The Truth About The Health Care Bill

[GMAN]

Well, if the persons old and is still remarkably healthy, then hats off to them.
Those that require hoses and tubes in order to survive as a vegetable into their 80's are too much baggage to some.

According to what Obama stated in one of his press conferences about health care, he plans on rationing health care based upon the individuals age and health. If you are too old or too unhealthy, you may not get as much health care as someone who is younger. Those who are younger have more time to work for the state and should receive more health care than someone who is older and no longer as productive. I am paraphrasing, but that is essentially what he said. I am surprised that the media didn't say more about it.

Oh, and on another note to the guy who said he was a former surgical tech, I've blazed through a Human Biology and Anatomy course in the past year.
Nursing seems like a tough field, but it's just something I keeping myself occupied with until I get with a good trucking company again.
Better than flunking the same college algebra class for 4 years straight.

You are taking nursing related classes to pass time until you can get a trucking job?

[bentstrider]

You are taking nursing related classes to pass time until you can get a trucking job?

Yeah, with no family life or other baggage like that, I figure this is one of the other ways I could kill time when not working at my security gig.
Not to mention these classes seem to be full of people who just want to learn it and get it over with, as opposed to the other ones filled to the brim with high school grads carrying on their lifestyle to the community college environment.

As far as the trucking job thing goes, it'll be three years since that rollover at this time next year.
With a spotless DMV and only that one accident from '07, I don't seem to have that much longer to get on with a well-equipped, decent company again.

F'ing Kids.

[flood]

Ok, this is worth every MINUTE (ONLY 4) to watch this! THIS HITS IT OUT OF THE BALL PARK ! AND IT ONLY has HAD 24,048 views

IT WAS TAKEN OFF THE VIDEO TAPES OF THE FLOOR OF OUR NATIONAL LEGISLATURE.

YouTube - Congressman Mike Rogers' opening statement on Health Care reform in Washington D.C.

[dobry4u]

Ok, this is worth every MINUTE (ONLY 4) to watch this! THIS HITS IT OUT OF THE BALL PARK ! AND IT ONLY has HAD 24,048 views

IT WAS TAKEN OFF THE VIDEO TAPES OF THE FLOOR OF OUR NATIONAL LEGISLATURE.

YouTube - Congressman Mike Rogers' opening statement on Health Care reform in Washington D.C.

Yep, that's my senator.... lots of adverbs and adjectives, and really nothing more than methane

[Glad Hand]

The entire purpose of the left’s so-called healthcare reform bill is not to reform healthcare to make it better and cheaper for everyone; it’s to turn the country into a massive Marxist/Leninist Socialist state.

The government option’s sole purpose is to force the insurance companies and the millions of people they employ out of business so that everyone, all Americans, will be put on the government dole and under the government’s control. It is an enormous, enormous power grab under the guise of healthcare reform.

Meanwhile the economy is in the tank and facilitating economic recovery should be priority number one, but Obama and his merry band of hardcore Marxists have been concentrating all of their resources and efforts instead these past months on passing so-called healthcare reform while people continue to be laid off in droves. However, if you are a leftist that is a good thing because it means more and more people will be forced onto the government’s dole and the more people dependent on the government, the better it is for the left, and that explains their motivations and actions so well.

[geeshock]

although I'm all for those in need getting health care, I'm one of em, lol. We need to really think it through. It's going to take much more time then I think this president has. There are so many variables that to get something going this quick would put our system up there with the other "free" health care systems.

[Glad Hand]

As far as the trucking job thing goes, it'll be three years since that rollover at this time next year.
With a spotless DMV and only that one accident from '07, I don't seem to have that much longer to get on with a well-equipped, decent company again.

Just curious as I have seen you mention this on several occasions. Apparently, I’m surmising you had a roll over accident while driving for Swift and you are waiting for the accident to drop off your DAC. Anyway, you seem pretty confident that after three years has passed that you be will able to return back to driving. I’m just curious…how do you know you will be able to return to the industry? Have you checked with Swift or any other recruiters to see if you will be hirable after the three-year period?

The reason I ask is because I know of two drivers that are currently driving today that both had rollovers in the past also. The first guy had to wait 5 years to go back to driving, however there was a death involved in his rollover accident, and the second guy just had to wait three years. Both of them went through Swift to reenter the industry and both of them drove for Swift subsequently for six months and then switched employment to better paying companies.

[bentstrider]

Just curious as I have seen you mention this on several occasions. Apparently, I’m surmising you had a roll over accident while driving for Swift and you are waiting for the accident to drop off your DAC. Anyway, you seem pretty confident that after three years has passed that you be will able to return back to driving. I’m just curious…how do you know you will be able to return to the industry? Have you checked with Swift or any other recruiters to see if you will be hirable after the three-year period?

The reason I ask is because I know of two drivers that are currently driving today that both had rollovers in the past also. The first guy had to wait 5 years to go back to driving, however there was a death involved in his rollover accident, and the second guy just had to wait three years. Both of them went through Swift to reenter the industry and both of them drove for Swift subsequently for six months and then switched employment to better paying companies.

Well, for one thing there were no fatalities/other vehicles involved in my accident.
Two, no DUI's, speeding tickets or other "simple infractions" that mar the record.
Three, it's kind of a hit/miss at this point because I've also to CRST(company I got my CDL through), Knight, Werner, Stevens, FFE, Central Ref., Heartland, Celadon, Southern Cal, and JCT among others.
They tell me that if it were the two backing mishaps alone, then they would care less, but that it's the rollover that they would need at least three years to get hired over, driving/not driving.
Also, hire/rehire with these companies or Swift would also be dependent on economic conditions and driver need.
So, seeing as if keep my nose clean for the next 1-5 years, then I don't see how this one rollover will trump what's a relatively clean driving record(the accidents show on driverfacts, but not DMV or DAC.)

And to close out this post, nursing seems to be the only thing one could really find a job at in most places(metro areas for fresh grads unfortunately).
Not to mention while I'm good at sciences, history, and English, I've just barely completed the minimal math requirement for an AA/AS.(Engineering track would take me 10-20 years on account of fails, drops.,etc)
I've been doing school on/off since 2001 and never gotten used to the feel of the college environment.
Essentially, trucking allowed me to keep to myself, switch places(I start feeling indifferent if staying in the same city for too long), and not feel like so much of an outsider.
Also, I could keep the same mailing address in one place and remain away from the home-domicile indefinitely. Other careers, it's stay one place for at least 1-2 years, then change addresses, drivers-licenses.
I don't want to settle down in one place is the point, with trucking I could be a drifter and still make money.

Okay, back to the Healthcare situation.

[Mr. Ford95]

I was talking with a buddy who's from Holland and they have much the same healthcare that Obama is trying to force thru. He said that we do not want it. What we have isn't great but it's much better than what is being proposed and that comes from someone who has lived with both systems.

[geeshock]

heh, well, if you go to cspan.org they have a link to the 2000 page bill in a pdf file. you have 72 hours to review it. how many have 3 full days to review and comment on this bill, lol. Although I like some things that they say will be taken of, including the doing away with pre existing conditions I can't give my blessing to such a change without at least reviewing the bill myself. BTW, am I the only one that gets mad when they introduce it as the democratic health care bill or republican health care bill? what happened to bi-partisan work on this bill?

[Glad Hand]

BTW, am I the only one that gets mad when they introduce it as the democratic health care bill or republican health care bill? what happened to bi-partisan work on this bill?

The reality is it is a Dhimmicrat bill, as like all the other bills they have passed so for since Obama became president they completely locked out the Republicans from participating in the process, and thus as a consequence no Republicans will support and vote for the bill.

You see Republicans were proposing real reform ideas like enabling insurance companies to compete across state lines to force price competition which would inevitably drive down healthcare cost, like making insurance portable, like tort reform, among other things, but those things were real reform ideas and not Marxist Leninist Socialism so the Dhimmicrats took offense and locked them out of the process.

In any event, if this monstrosity of a bill does pass, it will be the end of the USA as we have known it. The country is already bankrupt thanks to the government and it will just accelerate the day when the dollar will inevitably collapse forcing the government to fall, which is a good thing for the left since those loons all hate America with a passion and consider themselves not to be American citizens but citizens of the earth and the world instead, and they all really want world governance under the auspices of the UN, which is about the most corrupt organization in the history of the world. Not to mention that the UN has been hijacked by a coalition of Marxists and Muslims since the 70s, however the Marxists are the useful idiots of the Muslims and the Muslims will just simply take over when the time is ripe.

[Glad Hand]

Well, for one thing there were no fatalities/other vehicles involved in my accident.
Two, no DUI's, speeding tickets or other "simple infractions" that mar the record.
Three, it's kind of a hit/miss at this point because I've also to CRST(company I got my CDL through), Knight, Werner, Stevens, FFE, Central Ref., Heartland, Celadon, Southern Cal, and JCT among others.
They tell me that if it were the two backing mishaps alone, then they would care less, but that it's the rollover that they would need at least three years to get hired over, driving/not driving.
Also, hire/rehire with these companies or Swift would also be dependent on economic conditions and driver need.
So, seeing as if keep my nose clean for the next 1-5 years, then I don't see how this one rollover will trump what's a relatively clean driving record(the accidents show on driverfacts, but not DMV or DAC.)

And to close out this post, nursing seems to be the only thing one could really find a job at in most places(metro areas for fresh grads unfortunately).
Not to mention while I'm good at sciences, history, and English, I've just barely completed the minimal math requirement for an AA/AS.(Engineering track would take me 10-20 years on account of fails, drops.,etc)
I've been doing school on/off since 2001 and never gotten used to the feel of the college environment.
Essentially, trucking allowed me to keep to myself, switch places(I start feeling indifferent if staying in the same city for too long), and not feel like so much of an outsider.
Also, I could keep the same mailing address in one place and remain away from the home-domicile indefinitely. Other careers, it's stay one place for at least 1-2 years, then change addresses, drivers-licenses.
I don't want to settle down in one place is the point, with trucking I could be a drifter and still make money.

Okay, back to the Healthcare situation.

Thanks for the reply. I wish you the best of luck. By the way, what is driverfacts? You mean besides MVR and DAC there is another intrusive big brother organization trying to make driver's lives as miserable as possible?

[geeshock]

the thing is I am more conservative than left but I wouldn't suport a republican only bill any more than I would a democrat only bill. The idea is that they both need to come to an agreement on the bill.

[bentstrider]

Thanks for the reply. I wish you the best of luck. By the way, what is driverfacts? You mean besides MVR and DAC there is another intrusive big brother organization trying to make driver's lives as miserable as possible?

MVR is usually the equivalent of a CA DMV H-6 printout as far as I've been told.
And driverfacts is just like DAC, but probably cheaper or something.