Obama Declares War On China

[GMAN]

I just received a call from a friend of mine and he told me that Obama is planning on putting a high tariff on Chinese made tires to make them more competitive with U.S. tire companies. Beijing considers it a trade war. This will double the price many owner operators pay for their tires. Obama did this after China loaned him money to bail out the banks and investment companies. I wonder if China will start to raise prices on products they export to the U.S. and put tariffs on products we export to them, if we have anything left to export? This guy is a real genius.

[Windwalker]

He's doing everything RIGHT according to "LAWYER'S LOGIC". Seems like, just about everyone in that profession has a way of putting the cart before the horse. Not much doubt that it will start a tariff war... Again. But, we also need to get back into producing our own goods. Tariffs are about the only way to get that started. Need to do that with Mexico too.

From what I've been reading, China does not import much from us. Neither does Mexico. Canada seems to have a pretty even trade going both ways, except for oil.

The only way we're going to get Americans back to work is to start producing what we consume, rather than importing it. But, he's also going to have to start listening to the "TEA PARTY DEMONSTRATORS" about his spending habits. He's still acting like the American Taxpayer is a bottomless pit of resources and funds.

[GMAN]

He's doing everything RIGHT according to "LAWYER'S LOGIC". Seems like, just about everyone in that profession has a way of putting the cart before the horse. Not much doubt that it will start a tariff war... Again. But, we also need to get back into producing our own goods. Tariffs are about the only way to get that started. Need to do that with Mexico too.

I thought for some time we should scrap NAFTA. The entire agreement is one sided against the U.S. Many businesses have moved to Mexico for the cheaper labor, lax environmental laws and lower taxes. The problem with putting the tariffs on is that we are not in the position to produce many of those products in this country.

From what I've been reading, China does not import much from us. Neither does Mexico. Canada seems to have a pretty even trade going both ways, except for oil.

Mexico imports billions of U.S. dollars sent from the U.S. by illegals. You are correct about China not importing much from the U.S. They sell we buy. Most everything we purchase in China was once made here.

The only way we're going to get Americans back to work is to start producing what we consume, rather than importing it. But, he's also going to have to start listening to the "TEA PARTY DEMONSTRATORS" about his spending habits. He's still acting like the American Taxpayer is a bottomless pit of resources and funds.

Companies are not going to move operations back to the U.S. until he changes his policies about socialism and taxes. We need to get rid of this guy and his comrades. Have a recall or impeach them. He can't seem to connect the dots. He doesn't seem to care if people don't like his policies or not. He has decided what he wants to do and he will do it unless the people stop him.

[Part Time Dweller]

This will double the price many owner operators pay for their tires.

Hold on there Chicken Little...............

1st, how does a 35% increase double the price?

2cnd, unless the O/O's run around in cars or light trucks, I don't think they have to worry.

3rd, any O/O that buys Chinese tires for his rig ain't that bright, and probably won't be around much longer anyways, as if all they can afford is cheap junk tires.

[geeshock]

although I tend to agree he is going after his own agenda, so did another recent president in office and he wasn't impeached. Not trying to start a flame war but still.

[allan5oh]

I believe there already is an export tariff on all Chinese made goods.

[GMAN]

Hold on there Chicken Little...............

1st, how does a 35% increase double the price?

2cnd, unless the O/O's run around in cars or light trucks, I don't think they have to worry.

3rd, any O/O that buys Chinese tires for his rig ain't that bright, and probably won't be around much longer anyways, as if all they can afford is cheap junk tires.

I have been running some of the Chinese tires on my step deck and they are cheaper and have been holding up better than the tires I have been buying that were made in the U.S. Besides, some of the tires we buy are owned by the French and Japanese. Bridgestone is not a U.S. company but their tires are about double what I can buy one of the Chinese tires for and that is on national account. I have also had a problem with one of the Chinese tires and they stood behind the warranty. I have yet to have a U.S. tire company to stand behind a warranty other than Dunlop. I never thought that I would buy non American tires, but I will go where I can get the most value for my money. When U.S. tire manufacturers start standing behind their products and lower prices then I may switch back. However, I will NEVER buy another Goodyear or Kelly tire. Neither will stand behind their products. I can buy some of the Chinese tires for $189 for my step deck. If I buy Bridgestone on national account it costs me about $330. The Chinese tires will wear as well or better than the Bridgestones. I have also had good luck from Yokohama and can get those at a discount. For the last several years I have been experimenting with a number of different brands. So far the Double Coins have performed the best for the money. They recently came out with some that will work on my step deck. They are a little more money but I may try them to see how they wear. I believe in getting value for my money. Right now it isn't with the major U.S. tire companies. I am not even sure that Goodyear and Firestone are owned by the U.S. any more. If they want my business then they will need to build a better product at a competitive price. A good businessman will get the most value for his money. And I have been in business for almost 40 years. I must be doing something right.

[TimberWolf]

O GEE Wilikers, The sky is falling, the sky is falling,

Be careful Henny Penny, Obama is after you're barn yard as well, I hear he wants to raise the egg laying tax to .10 for each squat....
Then when everyone who so blindly voted him into office is not looking he is going to take out his super duper ray gun and blast us all with slime......
OH NO MR Bill save us!!!!

Hum de dum it was all just fine until the AMERICAN PEOPLE voted in Obama, How could they do such an un american thing as to use the democratic system our forefathers put in place, shame on them...


Still to funny...

Timberwolf

[Jackrabbit379]

Obama is gonna declare war on China because of their tires?
President Bush went after the terrorists after 9/11 and Obama is going after China because of tires. Wow. I'd hate to see what would happen to China if they did something to the US.

[GMAN]

Obama is gonna declare war on China because of their tires?
President Bush went after the terrorists after 9/11 and Obama is going after China because of tires. Wow. I'd hate to see what would happen to China if they did something to the US.

My friend who read this to me said that the Chinese are the ones who said that Obama had declared war on them. They were talking about a trade war, not a fighting war, at least not yet. I think Obama just wants an excuse to put another tax on something.

[Jackrabbit379]

They were talking about a trade war, not a fighting war, at least not yet.

Ohhh. Ok. I thought, "dag gum, Obama's short tempered".

Well, maybe in the future, we won't have anymore things being "made in China".

[GMAN]

I would love to only buy products made in America. Our industry didn't move offshore over night and it won't come back quickly. Industry can be encouraged to move their operations back to the U.S. We have a ready and willing workforce that is ready to go to work.

[Jackrabbit379]

Something I don't understand...the unemployeement rate is "supposed" to be sky high, and everyone is getting laid off, but yet, we still have stuff made "overseas". I aint dumb, but something don't make sense.

[Rev.Vassago]

I would love to only buy products made in America.

Wait a minute - earlier you said you were purposely buying cheaper products made in China. Now you are saying you'd love to buy only American made. What gives?

[GMAN]

Wait a minute - earlier you said you were purposely buying cheaper products made in China. Now you are saying you'd love to buy only American made. What gives?

I would love to only buy American made tires, but until they start standing behind their products and get their prices in line with what I can buy elsewhere I will continue to buy where I can get the best deal. I used buy Bridgestone tires, but at this point their prices are much higher than I can get elsewhere and they don't wear any better than the cheaper tires.

[Rev.Vassago]

I would love to only buy American made tires, but until they start standing behind their products and get their prices in line with what I can buy elsewhere I will continue to buy where I can get the best deal. I used buy Bridgestone tires, but at this point their prices are much higher than I can get elsewhere and they don't wear any better than the cheaper tires.

Congratulations. You just defined the entire reasoning against buying American-made goods, and defined why American companies are moving their businesses overseas.

[Dejanh]

I also think that it is a bad idea to raise tariffs on their tires.....he did it for the unions and it will backfire.

Any kind of subsidizing is just bad idea, farmers and everything else. it keeps prices artificially high just so that some can have bigger profits even though market does not demand their products at that price...

[GMAN]

Congratulations. You just defined the entire reasoning against buying American-made goods, and defined why American companies are moving their businesses overseas.

When I grew up the Japanese were just beginning to recover from the devastation of WWII. Much of what they exported to the U.S. was cheap and inferior. That has changed dramatically. Japanese products are now among the best in the world. There used to be junk coming from China. That has not totally changed, but it has improved. They still send some inferior products to the U.S. and other countries. Some of these foreign companies are partly or wholly owned by U.S. companies.

American workers used to care about doing a good job. Workers took pride in their work. That is no longer the case. There are some, but for many they only want to do the minimum to get a paycheck. My how things have changed in a few short decades. This country needs to change their attitude. Obama can raise tariffs on our imports to make them more competitive with U.S. made products. That will not solve the problem. I will pay a higher price if the product I want to purchase is worth the higher cost. If I am asked to pay a higher price for a product of equal or lesser quality then I will opt for the cheaper priced product. If there was a tire made in the U.S. that would give me longer use and the manufacturer's would stand behind their products then I would go back to buying U.S. made tires. By the way, if you drive a new Freightliner your truck was most likely made in Mexico. And Freightliner is owned by Mercedes as is Detroit engines.

[Rev.Vassago]

Do you support NAFTA? Did you support Clinton's trade agreements with China? From what you're saying here, you should.

[TimberWolf]

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American workers used to care about doing a good job. Workers took pride in their work. That is no longer the case. There are some, but for many they only want to do the minimum to get a paycheck. My how things have changed in a few short decades. This country needs to change their attitude. Obama can raise tariffs on our imports to make them more competitive with U.S. made products. That will not solve the problem. I will pay a higher price if the product I want to purchase is worth the higher cost. If I am asked to pay a higher price for a product of equal or lesser quality then I will opt for the cheaper priced product. If there was a tire made in the U.S. that would give me longer use and the manufacturer's would stand behind their products then I would go back to buying U.S. made tires. By the way, if you drive a new Freightliner your truck was most likely made in Mexico. And Freightliner is owned by Mercedes as is Detroit engines.

In my opinion we have employer greed to blame for the lack of enthusiastic employees. Companies for the last 30/40+ years have looked soley the bottom line of revenue while forgeting about employee
loyalty. "
Thanks for the 19 years of service Mr Smith but it is just not working out anymore" the company loses Mr Smith's 60,000 salary and brings in Mr wet behind the ears at $35,000 a year. you see it every day, the days of people spending 20+ years with one company are sadly in the past. How can an employer expect employees to put forth 100% if the employee lacks a secure feeling, our nature does not allow for this to happen. If at any one time an employee feels slighted they will seek out other employment or look for ways to get back at the employer ie. theft, lazyness, lack of enthusiasim, and in general poor performance.
"never buy a car built on Monday or Friday" it is a catch 22.

I too wish to buy American products at all times however when it comes to large purchases like cars it will come down to an evaluation the the product and warranties versus the American counter part. My wife's Izuzu Rodeo is an American built car owned by a Japanese Comapny it runs great and still has plenty of room to go. My 67 Fastback is an awesome car built to last by Ford, However My 06 Mustang Sucks I have had numerous issues with it to the point that I am ready to trade it in and am looking at buying a Hyundai Santa Fe, right now I'm busy looking at the differences between the Escape, the Eqinox, and the Liberty and sadly the foreign import is coming out on top with the warranty and across the board reviews, as well as pricing..
I always tell my father he and mom lived in our country at the best time when we were still new enough to know better but not quite mature enough to know best..

Timberwolf