Palin to quit

[golfhobo]

I can see I'm going to have a busy weekend!

[dobry4u]

Palin would have been a change. Obama is simply more of the same.

change? I suppose chaos and buffoonery would be change

The woman quit her job... was elected by the populous and up and quit....

Oh yeah.. it is a woman's prerogative... Palin reminds me of Emily Litella...

[dobry4u]

YouTube - Hitler Finds Out Sarah Palin Resigns

[Blacksheep]

change? I suppose chaos and buffoonery would be change

The woman quit her job... was elected by the populous and up and quit....

Oh yeah.. it is a woman's prerogative... Palin reminds me of Emily Litella...

Why such a hater ? stop getting your info from lefty idiot news outlets, tired of everyone being a villan if they don't think like you ( us ).
Same old bull sh^T politics, that's why our country is implodeing.

[AC120]

Thanks for the improved link. That thing is freakin' hysterical! The other "Hitler finds" clips on YouTube are too; nobody gets any respect. Great stuff if you like to laugh.

You could do, say, "Hitler finds out his CR England lease isn't what he thought it was," or "Hitler's truck gets hit in a truck stop," or "Hitler finds out his appointment time means nothing, it's a hand stack and fingerprint load, and no lumpers are allowed," or "Hitler learns his Swift CDL is invalid." Or . . .

These things all are from the German film "Downfall" about A**H***'s freaked-out last days in his bunker; you can watch the whole thing--in segments and with English subtitles--on YouTube.

Hey, there's even a YT "Hitler gets Rick Rolled" clip. I know someone here will like that.

[dobry4u]

Why such a hater ? stop getting your info from lefty idiot news outlets, tired of everyone being a villan (villian) if they don't think like you ( us ).
Same old bull sh^T politics, that's why our country is implodeing (imploding).

I don't hate Ms Palin. I don't hate anyone. I just don't think she is of the right stature or capacity to be the Head of State or a governor or even leader of a PTO meeting. And you apparently have no idea where I get information therefore your remark is quite asinine.

[golfhobo]

Windwalker said:

Dear Hobo, Please keep in mind the fact that for the rest of us,

The rest of WHOM? You mean the minority 40% that would vote for Palin? Or do you claim to speak for EVERYONE but me?

even an "air-head" would be far better than the current "business as usual".

Excusing, for the moment, that such a claim is completely assinine and detrimental to the well-being of our country... may I point out that we/you HAD an "air-head" for the last 8 years? And if Obama is just "business as usual," then why are all of you against him? What "scares" US, is precisely the fact that Palin would have been "more of the same" mentality and expertise.

You voted for a "change". You got a change. The President has darker skin, and the price tag went from $154 Billion to $3.7 Trillion.

There are a LOT of numbers being thrown about these days, mostly by Republican mouthpieces, and I've been busy. So, please forgive me if I'm not sure what you refer to. The only thing close to this I can find in GOOGLE is something about the Japanese stimulus plan. Can you please explain this more clearly for this "stoopid" Democrat?

OH, we'll get "clean air" legislation, and overlook other things that will affect our environment, like the liquid hydrogen that escapes into the atmosphere.

I'm SURE I'm not the scientist that YOU are, Windy.... and it's been years since I aced all my classes in that subject.... but let me take a stab at some of this:

Maybe I'm wrong but, I would think that in the LIQUID form, hydrogen isn't going to "escape" too far.

Hydrogen is one half the atomic weight of helium,

Sorry, but not true. The atomic weight of Hydrogen is 1. The atomic weight of Helium is 4. If I didn't fail MATH, too.... that would be 1/4th the atomic weight. Oh..... I get it ... you are referring to the fact that Hydrogen is a "diatomic" element (requiring two atoms to make a molecule) whereas Helium is "monatomic" requiring only ONE. Yes.... that would mean that a MOLECULE of Hydrogen is 1 half the atomic weight of a MOLECULE of Helium. Why didn't you SAY so?

and filters up in our atmosphere to the outer reaches of earth's envelope, and from there, lost in space forever.

Again, given my limited scientific knowledge, I'm not sure I agree. If our "atmosphere" doesn't keep it from escaping then it surely wouldn't keep it from "entering." Given that Hydrogen constitutes nearly 75% of the UNIVERSE, I'm quite sure that as we sail through that void, we are awash in it. Not to mention that it is constantly being "produced" from methane gas.... and the cow population is ever increasing on our planet.

THEN.... you have to consider that Hydrogen is one of the most "attractive" and easily combined elements on Earth and exists in our atmosphere at a level somewhere way below 1 percent, whereas.... Oxygen constitutes 21 % of our atmosphere. Being that BOTH are attracted by the static properties of dust and smoke that permeate our atmosphere, I find it difficult to believe that MUCH of it (Hydrogen) gets past the Oxygen without combining into water vapor.

So, for each molecule we lose, we lose that much of our water supply.

The fact that for AT LEAST the last decade or more the Earth's ocean levels have been RISING would tend to refute that claim. Probably somewhat due to the increased amount of dust and smoke in the atmosphere being a catalyst for FORMING water vapor from the H and O elements surrounding us.... as well as the melting of the ice caps on both poles.

Yes..... I know that we have experienced increasing levels of DROUGHT lately. But, look at the proximity of those areas to the equator (the warmest part of Earth.) This can easily be explained by "global warming."

As the Earth warms, especially around the equator, the resultant WINDS (HEATED AIR tends to move away from the source of the heat) force the water vapor AWAY from the equator into more northern and southern climes. When that increased water vapor meets frigid atmospheric air (caused by depletion of the ozone layer which allows colder air in from space) it produces more SNOW. Hmm.... we've had record SNOWS in artic climes lately! And when that "window" moves about the Earth, it is replaced by warmer (more insulated) air dense with smog and particulates... causing slightly warmer temps in those areas.... which means the water vapor falls as RAIN! Hmmm.... we've had more FLOODS lately! This also explains the melting of the ice caps.

But that's not in vogue right now, so nothing is going to be done about that.

Again, I disagree. The changes in our climate and the resulting changes in ice caps, rainfalls and droughts... are very MUCH "in vogue" right now. The prevailing "science" is that ALL these factors are caused by the "insulating" effects of carbon pollution and its detrimental effect on the "protective" layer of OZONE in our atmosphere.

Just for a simple example: Destruction of the ozone layer (proven) allows more heat from the sun to reach our planet. Coming as UV rays, it is not "shielded" by the clouds and pollutants. (That's why we BURN more on a cloudy day... and that's what the OZONE layer does.)

However, the resulting HEATING of the surface IS prevented from "escaping" by the insulating effects of the pollution.

Now.... I ain't no scientist. But, I tend to believe what I'm hearing because (to ME anyway) it all makes sense. I may not be able to explain it all to everyone's satisfaction, but at least I'm not ridiculing the science behind it like Sean Hannity and most of the Conservative mouthpieces do!

Palin would have been a change.

In WHAT way? She subscribed to nearly EVERY principle of King Dubya! And what she didn't know (which was immeasurable) she was "schooled on" by Dubya's advisors!!!

Obama is simply more of the same.

Then WHY are the Republicans coming out of the woodwork to attempt to discredit him? Your argument makes NO SENSE, and has no basis in fact. The ONLY ones running "scared" these days, are the "big Industry, big MONEY fellatiating, "pocket stuffing politicians" who have Rubber Stamped the raping of America for far too long!

And they've got YOU and too many others convinced!

No offense intended, Windy! Good discussion of sorts. Thanks for the challenge.

Hobo

[1catfish]

Windwalker said:



The rest of WHOM? You mean the minority 40% that would vote for Palin? Or do you claim to speak for EVERYONE but me?



Excusing, for the moment, that such a claim is completely assinine and detrimental to the well-being of our country... may I point out that we/you HAD an "air-head" for the last 8 years? And if Obama is just "business as usual," then why are all of you against him? What "scares" US, is precisely the fact that Palin would have been "more of the same" mentality and expertise.



There are a LOT of numbers being thrown about these days, mostly by Republican mouthpieces, and I've been busy. So, please forgive me if I'm not sure what you refer to. The only thing close to this I can find in GOOGLE is something about the Japanese stimulus plan. Can you please explain this more clearly for this "stoopid" Democrat?



I'm SURE I'm not the scientist that YOU are, Windy.... and it's been years since I aced all my classes in that subject.... but let me take a stab at some of this:

Maybe I'm wrong but, I would think that in the LIQUID form, hydrogen isn't going to "escape" too far.



Sorry, but not true. The atomic weight of Hydrogen is 1. The atomic weight of Helium is 4. If I didn't fail MATH, too.... that would be 1/4th the atomic weight. Oh..... I get it ... you are referring to the fact that Hydrogen is a "diatomic" element (requiring two atoms to make a molecule) whereas Helium is "monatomic" requiring only ONE. Yes.... that would mean that a MOLECULE of Hydrogen is 1 half the atomic weight of a MOLECULE of Helium. Why didn't you SAY so?



Again, given my limited scientific knowledge, I'm not sure I agree. If our "atmosphere" doesn't keep it from escaping then it surely wouldn't keep it from "entering." Given that Hydrogen constitutes nearly 75% of the UNIVERSE, I'm quite sure that as we sail through that void, we are awash in it. Not to mention that it is constantly being "produced" from methane gas.... and the cow population is ever increasing on our planet.

THEN.... you have to consider that Hydrogen is one of the most "attractive" and easily combined elements on Earth and exists in our atmosphere at a level somewhere way below 1 percent, whereas.... Oxygen constitutes 21 % of our atmosphere. Being that BOTH are attracted by the static properties of dust and smoke that permeate our atmosphere, I find it difficult to believe that MUCH of it (Hydrogen) gets past the Oxygen without combining into water vapor.



The fact that for AT LEAST the last decade or more the Earth's ocean levels have been RISING would tend to refute that claim. Probably somewhat due to the increased amount of dust and smoke in the atmosphere being a catalyst for FORMING water vapor from the H and O elements surrounding us.... as well as the melting of the ice caps on both poles.

Yes..... I know that we have experienced increasing levels of DROUGHT lately. But, look at the proximity of those areas to the equator (the warmest part of Earth.) This can easily be explained by "global warming."

As the Earth warms, especially around the equator, the resultant WINDS (HEATED AIR tends to move away from the source of the heat) force the water vapor AWAY from the equator into more northern and southern climes. When that increased water vapor meets frigid atmospheric air (caused by depletion of the ozone layer which allows colder air in from space) it produces more SNOW. Hmm.... we've had record SNOWS in artic climes lately! And when that "window" moves about the Earth, it is replaced by warmer (more insulated) air dense with smog and particulates... causing slightly warmer temps in those areas.... which means the water vapor falls as RAIN! Hmmm.... we've had more FLOODS lately! This also explains the melting of the ice caps.



Again, I disagree. The changes in our climate and the resulting changes in ice caps, rainfalls and droughts... are very MUCH "in vogue" right now. The prevailing "science" is that ALL these factors are caused by the "insulating" effects of carbon pollution and its detrimental effect on the "protective" layer of OZONE in our atmosphere.

Just for a simple example: Destruction of the ozone layer (proven) allows more heat from the sun to reach our planet. Coming as UV rays, it is not "shielded" by the clouds and pollutants. (That's why we BURN more on a cloudy day... and that's what the OZONE layer does.)

However, the resulting HEATING of the surface IS prevented from "escaping" by the insulating effects of the pollution.

Now.... I ain't no scientist. But, I tend to believe what I'm hearing because (to ME anyway) it all makes sense. I may not be able to explain it all to everyone's satisfaction, but at least I'm not ridiculing the science behind it like Sean Hannity and most of the Conservative mouthpieces do!



In WHAT way? She subscribed to nearly EVERY principle of King Dubya! And what she didn't know (which was immeasurable) she was "schooled on" by Dubya's advisors!!!



Then WHY are the Republicans coming out of the woodwork to attempt to discredit him? Your argument makes NO SENSE, and has no basis in fact. The ONLY ones running "scared" these days, are the "big Industry, big MONEY fellatiating, "pocket stuffing politicians" who have Rubber Stamped the raping of America for far too long!

And they've got YOU and too many others convinced!

No offense intended, Windy! Good discussion of sorts. Thanks for the challenge.

Hobo

well, you got him, good luck with all that. try not to blame bush the whole 4 years.

[Blacksheep]

[QUOTE=dobry4u;456463]I don't hate Ms Palin. I don't hate anyone. just don't think she is of the right stature or capacity to be the Head of State or a governor or even leader of a PTO meeting. And you apparently have no idea where I get information therefore your remark is quite asinine.[/QUOUTE]

What's a PTO ? Yea I could see why you would want some Chicago thug community agitator that hasn't done sh^t and has no experience.
AMERICA as we know it is over, thanks lefty azzwipes.....

[dobry4u]

What's a PTO ? Yea I could see why you would want some Chicago thug community agitator that hasn't done sh^t and has no experience.
AMERICA as we know it is over, thanks lefty azzwipes.....

PTO is Parent Teacher Organization.....

Name calling ... nice touch

[Blacksheep]

Sarah Palin is a witless nutjob and is the last person I would want being Head of State and president of my country.

btw, I am neither right, left, republican, or democrat and use common sense, practicality, and the welfare of my fellow man as the foundation for my voting decisions.

What ? did you ever hear the pot and kettle saying ? name calling that's rich............

[golfhobo]

What's a PTO ? Yea I could see why you would want some Chicago thug community agitator that hasn't done sh^t and has no experience.
AMERICA as we know it is over, thanks lefty azzwipes.....

To be more accurate.... you should "thank" the Independents and some of the more moderate Republicans who voted for him! Obviously.... as shown in 2000..... the "lefty Azzwipes" alone (even when they exceed 50% of the popular vote) can't elect a president all by themselves.

Perhaps you should look at your OWN party for the "defectors" that have had enough of Neo-Con politics! Or better yet.... look at your LEADERS who apparently don't have the intelligence or vision to inspire the country.

America "as we know it" was over a long time ago! It's up for argument as to WHEN, WHERE and WHOM.... but, I would start with NIXON and his attempt to circumvent the democratic process. Maybe throw in a little Reagan and the Contra affair.... and then finish it off with the lying and subversion of Congress (by president Cheney) that got us into the Iraq war!

OH.... I'm SURE you'll want to blame Clinton. But, when he left office we had a surplus and a balanced budget. Gas was less than 2 bucks a gallon. Can you HONESTLY say that you were better off after 8 years of Bush than you were when Clinton left office? I doubt it.

Yes, this is a NEW America. It's a scary and troubled time. I don't know if Obama can dig us out of this MESS.... but I DO know that 8 more years of Dubya would have ONLY made matters WORSE.

The financial market crashed under BUSH! And it is now recovering undering Obama. Since ALL you "republiCONS" care about is MONEY.... I'd think you would be more optimistic, and just a little less critical.

But then, I tend to give y'all more credit than you deserve!

[dobry4u]

What ? did you ever hear the pot and kettle saying ? name calling that's rich............

I was speaking of the conversational medium of the CAD forum and that should have been clear to Rich or anyone else.

[Blacksheep]

To be more accurate.... you should "thank" the Independents and some of the more moderate Republicans who voted for him! Obviously.... as shown in 2000..... the "lefty Azzwipes" alone (even when they exceed 50% of the popular vote) can't elect a president all by themselves.

Perhaps you should look at your OWN party for the "defectors" that have had enough of Neo-Con politics! Or better yet.... look at your LEADERS who apparently don't have the intelligence or vision to inspire the country.

America "as we know it" was over a long time ago! It's up for argument as to WHEN, WHERE and WHOM.... but, I would start with NIXON and his attempt to circumvent the democratic process. Maybe throw in a little Reagan and the Contra affair.... and then finish it off with the lying and subversion of Congress (by president Cheney) that got us into the Iraq war!

OH.... I'm SURE you'll want to blame Clinton. But, when he left office we had a surplus and a balanced budget. Gas was less than 2 bucks a gallon. Can you HONESTLY say that you were better off after 8 years of Bush than you were when Clinton left office? I doubt it.

Yes, this is a NEW America. It's a scary and troubled time. I don't know if Obama can dig us out of this MESS.... but I DO know that 8 more years of Dubya would have ONLY made matters WORSE.

The financial market crashed under BUSH! And it is now recovering undering Obama. Since ALL you "republiCONS" care about is MONEY.... I'd think you would be more optimistic, and just a little less critical.

But then, I tend to give y'all more credit than you deserve!

My own party ? what would that be ol wise one ? didn't vote for the community agitater or the old rino either.
I guess you know everything, huh.

[Blacksheep]

I was speaking of the conversational medium of the CAD forum and that should have been clear to Rich or anyone else.

I was not calling you a name, just a group of lefties, unless you fit into that group. if no no worries I apologize to you.

[Windwalker]

Ok, HOBO, let's see you reply to this...

At the risk of being one of those boring old men who loves to tell tales of the good old days, I'll tell you this: The dollar just doesn't buy what it used to. In fact, at the dollar's current rate of decline, it's probable that someone in their 20s today will be able to look back in 10 years and say with regret, "The dollar just doesn't buy what it used to." You don't hear about it much in the news, but the decline of the U.S. dollar is a dangerous crisis with far-reaching ramifications -- all of them bad.

I know what you're thinking: Here comes the anti-Bush rant, right?

Wrong.

The massive blow that U.S. currency has suffered (and will continue to suffer) is NOT the result of the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, or the perceived international hatred of the Bush administration. The Democrats and the anti-Bush left are happy to have you think that this is the case. But it's actually the free-trade policies that were enacted in the 90s -- on Bill Clinton's watch -- that are posing a larger threat to America's future well being.

Since the passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) in 1994, and the creation of the World Trade Organization (WTO) in 1995, America has run up $5 trillion in deficits. That's right: trillion.

The United States government is spending like the proverbial drunken sailor, and it's our children and grandchildren that are going to have to settle the tab. In the meantime, the rest of us will have to deal with the hideous fallout of the ever-tightening death-spiral of the U.S. dollar. How badly is the U.S. living beyond its means? We are currently borrowing $2 billion A DAY from foreign nations to both maintain our standard of living and America's various overseas commitments (including Iraq, Mr. President). And near the top of the list of the nations from which we're borrowing the most? China.

U.S. Downfall: Made in China

To someone of my age, I can tell you that this is a knife in the gut. If you'd told me in my youth that within my lifetime, the mighty United States would be going to China with our upturned hats in our hands, looking for a loan... well, I'd have just laughed at you or gotten ready for a fight. At the time, China was a backward agrarian nation, just getting back on its feet after years of devastating civil war. The mantra we always heard growing up was, "Clean your plate -- there are children starving in China."

And now, it's America who's turned beggar. It defies imagining. The fact that a sizable chunk of U.S. debt is owed to China is by far the surest and most frightening indication that the 2000s are indeed destined to become "The Chinese Century." The dollar is dying, and that's a sign of a nation in decline. There's no such thing as a superpower with a sinking currency.

The ripples of the death of the dollar and the continuing trade deficit will spread out through American culture. International travel will soon become a privilege known only by the extremely wealthy. In fact, this may already be the case. A single British Pound is now worth over $2 for the first time since the dark, malaise-filled days of the Carter administration, which makes travel to the U.K. a dauntingly pricey proposition. The Euro is now at $1.45, compared with just 83 cents when Bush entered office just eight years ago. In fact, the dollar has dropped in value more during the Bush administration than during any time in U.S. history. But as I explained before, he may be at the reigns, but the seeds of this disaster were sown during the Clinton years.

One wonders if this spiral will help us wake up to the folly of our many foreign aid programs. The way that it's working out now is that the U.S. is borrowing money from their trade rival China in order to send that money to corrupt leaders in places like Africa. The tyrants in Africa then pocket the money themselves, and then vote for the Chinese at the U.N. If it weren't such a sorry state of affairs, it might actually be considered funny.

But unless things change radically (and they won't, regardless of who moves into the White House in January of 2009), it's not likely that the trade deficit will shrink or the health of the U.S. dollar will improve.

In an election year, this is information that you should know -- especially when one of the players in the creation of NAFTA and WTO is likely to be on the ballot.

Oh, and next time you go to a Chinese restaurant and they give you the bill, tell them to just put it on the U.S. tab. Our country may be headed down the tubes, but maybe you can get a free plate of lo mein out of the deal.

(Brought over from another thread)

[dobry4u]

I was not calling you a name, just a group of lefties, unless you fit into that group. if no no worries I apologize to you.

we're kewl ... I can't do crap with my left... it is the one that gives me all the typo's

[Blacksheep]

we're kewl ... I can't do crap with my left... it is the one that gives me all the typo's

I understand, adult beverage's give me the typo's. .

[golfhobo]

My own party ? what would that be ol wise one ? didn't vote for the community agitater or the old rino either.
I guess you know everything, huh.

Well, you wouldn't be the FIRST to try to hide your affiliation after what Dubya did to this country.... but, it is possible that you have no party affiliation whatsoever. But, I doubt it.

I can't imagine that you are an Independent, or you would realize that it was the majority of THOSE who lent support to the "lefty Azzwipes" to help elect Obama.

You could be a "Green party" member....lol! Not likely!

About the ONLY people who USE the term "RINO" are Conservative Republicans who feel betrayed by the more moderate of their party, i.e: McCain.

Since you constantly rail against the loss of America as YOU know it, and blame the LEFT (and Obama) for it....and denigrate McCain for being a RINO, I feel fairly safe in assuming you're a Conservative, whether Republican or not.

Ah yes.... I forgot about the Libertarians! As has MOST of America! Not really much difference between THEM and the NEOCONS.

Anyway.... if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.... who cares whether it's actually a duck or not?!

[Blacksheep]

neocon is liberal code for jew right ? didn't vote for either Bush, I'm a conservative for sure and vote that way.
Only dummies vote for someone because of the letter after there name.