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    Quote Originally Posted by avc View Post
    Why do you even post here, do you need attention that bad man ???

    Do you ever add anything to threads other than an idiotic signature photo ??
    i post to piss you off. it seems to work just fine. you can now go back to your parent's basement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RostyC View Post
    and I think we're heading down the road to another conflict. Maybe not a full blown civil war but some kind of conflict. When enough people wake up and realize the money that is wasted or maybe stolen perhaps REAL change will occur.

    I hope that we don't get into another armed conflict with the government. We have had two major wars in this country. Both involved an overzealous centralized government and over taxation. The first was the American Revolution. The King of England wanted to levy heavy taxes on colonial settlers and those people didn't have representation before the crown. The American Civil war started due to the federal government wanting to levy heavy taxes on southern textiles. That and states rights. States wanted to exercise their rights and move away from a more centralized federal government.

    I think the conditions are very similar to these previous wars. I would hope that we never have another civil war in this country. I don't think the citizens are ready to pick up arms against the government nor do I think the military is ready to start bombing their fellow citizens, but it is not beyond the realm of possibility. It has happened before. It was fellow citizens of the armed forces who started the War between the States. That is the reason the liberals in government want to disarm honest citizens. They have lost the war on taking guns directly, so they are now attacking our ammunition. It is very difficult to find certain types of ammunition. There is a law covertly making it's way around congress to make it even more difficult to buy guns. I wish that I could recall the bill.

    It will take the citizens of this country to stand up and demand that this government move back to a constitutional government before things will change. If enough people take a stand we can make a difference. I believe we are at a pivotal point in our history. We will either move back away from a centralized government or totally embrace socialism/fascism and lose our country all together. I hope enough of our countrymen remember how this country used to be will stand up to make a difference. We need to educate our youth as to what our constitution means and what our country stands for.

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    Vito and MrFord, you both need to watch this video and make a comeback.

    YouTube - WTC7 -- This is an Orange

    GMan, you are right about a return to constitutional government, but until justice is served on the crooks in high places, we have no hope of that, the entire system is corrupt all the way to the Supreme Court who "appointed" Bush and Cheney in 2000.

    What happened after that ?

    9/11, Iraq, massive oil fraud, the appearance of the Bank failure which has been brewing since the 87 crash of the stock market, we have a system built on smoke and mirrors that is highly fraudulent.

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    avc, that video is a load of crock as are most of the comments, particularly that Pentagon one. Guess that idiot missed the Pentagon security cam video that showed the plane flying into the building.

    Here's what happened to Building 7 and several of the others around the Tower's, the Tower's came down and the mountain of debris had to go somewhere as it came down. That debris went out away from the Towers' footprint's and slammed into the base of buildings surrounding the Tower's as it piled up in a small mountain. It acted like a mudslide and knocked the supports closest to the Tower's out from under this building and all of the others around there. Eventually the rest of the supports would give way under the immense downward pressure and all those buildings would fall if they hadn't already. I can easily venture that on the side of safety someone decided to demo those left halfway standing on purpose. They knew the buildings would fall eventually and instead of waiting around and possibly damaging other buildings and getting more people killed, they brought in a demo crew and finished what the Tower's had already started. So yeah, 7 and several of the others that were initially standing were probably brought down on purpose in the interest of public safety. Ever thought of that? There was no way those buildings could be re-built without knocking them the rest of the way down and starting all over again from the ground up. It isn't/wasn't a govt. cover-up.

    I agree with this though:
    we have a system built on smoke and mirrors that is highly fraudulent.
    As for Bush and Cheney being appointed in 2000, that's the Electoral College for you. It is possible to win the popular vote but lose the electoral college. To win the EC you only need to win 11 states, ie: take all the biggie's that are 15 or more EC votes. Yes Al Gore won the popular vote, but he failed to win enough of the biggie EC states. Obama won 9 of the 11 biggies which meant McCain would have needed to win darn near all the rest of the states and that wasn't going to happen.

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    Why is the video a load, because it proves what it says it does, that you can't believe what you see with your own eyes ???

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin...gi?read=116662

    You actually believe the "official government story" when many physics experts and architects and structural engineers contest the official government 9/11 line ?


    http://www.stlimc.org/newswire2008/1...uction-wtc-911
    Last edited by avc; 06-18-2009 at 03:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avc View Post
    Vito and MrFord, you both need to watch this video and make a comeback.

    YouTube - WTC7 -- This is an Orange

    GMan, you are right about a return to constitutional government, but until justice is served on the crooks in high places, we have no hope of that, the entire system is corrupt all the way to the Supreme Court who "appointed" Bush and Cheney in 2000.

    What happened after that ?

    9/11, Iraq, massive oil fraud, the appearance of the Bank failure which has been brewing since the 87 crash of the stock market, we have a system built on smoke and mirrors that is highly fraudulent.

    I agree that the system has become corrupt. The reason is because of apathy of the American people. Until the average American citizen demands and holds these people accountable things will not change. The thing politicians fear most is losing power. There are so many people who receive a check from the government that it is difficult to get citizens involved in the process. After all, they would be cutting the hand off that feeds them.

    One way to start the change is to find good, honest people who are willing to run for office and uphold the Constitution. Find people who have worked for a living and perhaps ran a business or farm. Stop electing lawyers to office. That is another problem with these people and the current system. Consider running for office yourself. It can be rough on your family running for public office. Average citizens need to become involved in running our government. If you don't want to run for office of seek out a good candidate, then at least start holding accountable those who are in office. Write, email or call them to express your views on how they should vote on issues that are important. Let them know that you are watching them and how they vote. Check the background and voting record of those who are running for office. You can't blame everything on these people. We need to accept part of the blame ourselves. After all, it is either our vote or apathy that has allowed these people to get elected and stay in office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95 View Post

    As for Bush and Cheney being appointed in 2000, that's the Electoral College for you. It is possible to win the popular vote but lose the electoral college. To win the EC you only need to win 11 states, ie: take all the biggie's that are 15 or more EC votes. Yes Al Gore won the popular vote, but he failed to win enough of the biggie EC states. Obama won 9 of the 11 biggies which meant McCain would have needed to win darn near all the rest of the states and that wasn't going to happen.
    No, if the votes were allowed to be counted Gore would have won the EC too !!!

    The appointment of Bush and Cheney in 2000 was conducted by a drug addict Supreme Court Justice named Rehnquist who was a Republican appointed by Richard Nixon, he put the Nixon gang lead by Bush Senior back in the White House, then they stole another election in 2004 with the help of Ohio Republicans and Diebold voting machines.

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...-revision&cd=3

    Welcome to America folks, you should be proud of our heritage !!!!
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    your tin foil hat must be a little to tight, conspiracy idiots crack me up...........get a life already.

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    Yeah, I'll go get a life and you stick your head back in the sand and stay an idiot, most likely you are a happy one anyway !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by avc View Post
    Yeah, I'll go get a life and you stick your head back in the sand and stay an idiot, most likely you are a happy one anyway !!!!
    Chicken little, your lack of education is to funny....I hope you don't vote.

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    LOL man, coming from you that is a certified joke !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by avc View Post
    LOL man, coming from you that is a certified joke !!!
    Looking at most of what you post, I think you're borderline R E T A R D E D , or just f'ing stupid, got something else that you think is whitty you would like to post ?

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    Looking at the posts are all you are capable of, understanding what is posted is another story for you man !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by avc View Post
    Looking at the posts are all you are capable of, understanding what is posted is another story for you man !!!
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    I understand you lack of education, and you're a bonafied KOOK. a liberal conspiracy wack job.

    You bore me with your goofy theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksheep View Post
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    I understand you lack of education, and you're a bonafied KOOK. a liberal conspiracy wack job.

    You bore me with your goofy theories.
    Duh, you have nothing to offer threads but your unique form of lunacy man, you really would not "get it" if a ton of "got it" was dumped on your head man.

    LOL man !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by avc View Post
    Duh, you have nothing to offer threads but your unique form of lunacy man, you really would not "get it" if a ton of "got it" was dumped on your head man.

    LOL man !!!

    You don't get it a ssholes like you are a dime a dozen, typical lib thinks they are smarter then everybody else.
    Good thing you're just some goof on the net spewing some delusional garbage about nothing that matters.

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    Right, but morons like you are rare, Oh sorry, not really, if that was the case you would have questioned Cheney bending you over and raping you for the last 8 years !!!!

    Now go get some attention from Uncle Henry Son !!!!
    Last edited by avc; 06-19-2009 at 03:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksheep View Post
    You don't get it a ssholes like you are a dime a dozen, typical lib thinks they are smarter then everybody else.
    Good thing you're just some goof on the net spewing some delusional garbage about nothing that matters.
    I think this covers anything else you have to spew, go ahead and get the last post, I'm not in the mood to respond to your stupid posts anymore, dummy.

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