Pot

[bigrigjoe66]

What are your views on legalizing ? I think it should be and for the same old reasons. Never gonna stop it, tax it, legal m/j would stop all the sub culture deales and crime associated with it and save us billions on prison sentences and trying to fight it. I smoked it as a kid all the time. Never wanted to fight or drive around causing accidents as with alcohol. It does not lead to hard drugs thats b/s propaganda. I have probally smoked several pounds myself and have never done anything else or wanted to either. It's not addictive either as is alcohol and tobacco. I stopped when I went into the Air Force in 1984 and haven't touched it since but if they would legalize it I would be high as a kite tonight. Just my opinion.

[Jackrabbit379]

Well, let's say they do legalize that stuff. Would they still have drug tests, etc? What about the work places? All of the employees would be doped up all the time. Just imagine, going out to eat, and your waiter is so doped up, he can't see straight. I'm sure half of them are, but I would imagine it would be just that much worse.
The Police department here is always going after, arresting druggies, but I'd rather the dope be illegal than legal.
Willie Nelson has always tried to get the "big shots" to legalize marijuana.

[matcat]

I support legalizing it as well. It is proven in other countries legalization actually causes a major drop in use, and all but eradicates drug related crime.

Obviously drug testing would change a little bit, it would no longer be included in a standard drug test, but would still be required to be tested in safety sensitive functions. Would be like Alcohol, you couldn't use it so many hours before going on duty, etc. Only problem with enforcement is how long THC metabolites stay in your system, they would have to use saliva tests because of the much shorter testable duration time.

It is coming though believe me. However a complete legalization is a long way off, but it won't be long before a national medical legalization plan comes along and gets approved.

It is true that there is a lot of propaganda about weed. The only long term negative effects are the same as smoking cigarettes, for the same reasons, and even then weed has less chemicals then a normal cigarette. I too smoked quite a bit of the stuff in my youth, and I was able to perfectly function at anything I did. Now I do not support driving and smoking, even though personally I think I could handle it just fine, and did so many times in a car, your response times are diminished, so the likelihood of an accident is greater.

Now there are those out there that will spew out the drugs are bad for you, will destroy your brain, etc etc, most of which is all just propaganda that has no basis in truth. However there is always the risk of social issues, but that can be with anything. Yes even with weed it is possible to become enough of an addict to it that you will destroy your life and relationships, but that is a rare thing from just smoking weed.

If I where in a different career, and it where legal, believe me I would be smoking doobies instead of cigarettes .

[TimberWolf]

I am of the mind set that weed came with the Earth along with Peyote and several other natural highs, all of which I used in my youth. Everything in moderation.... If you go along with the theroy that God created the heavens and earth then he must have created a natural high for his flock to enjoy.
When one begins to dabble in man made drugs then all hell breaks loose and the sh.t hits the fan. (we are our own worst enemy)
As a teen I used reefer on a daily basis, I too was able to function in my daily routine, Completed six years of college and graduated near the middle of my class unlike a recent presidential canidate. I do find myself asking what could I have done if I had not been stoned all the time??? but then I look at my older brother who owns and operates a multi million dollar business and say to myself not much more as he was the one I followed in life.
I have always had a good work ethic since the age of 15. (Thanks Dad!!) Once I graduated from school and began to work in the hospitality world I continued to enjoy life in many ways, Then one day I woke up and realized my world had a drastic change and my cash needed to be diverted from personal entertainment to Huggies diaper corporation. I have not looked back in regret since. There are times I think about getting high but quickly realize that the risk are not worth it (Damn Consequences !!! once again.. THANKS DAD)

Unfortunately not every one is able to funtion properly in this very functionaly disfuntional world we live in.
Leagalizing pot is the way to go but it wont solve the problems of those who are not of the working mans mind set.

Timberwolf

[matcat]

If I remember correctly, major national poles showed that 70% of American support legalization.

[RostyC]

I think we should legalize pot but then hand out 10 year prison terms for anyone that uses the term "Hey Dude." That'd be funny.

Prisoner 1: What are you in for?
Prisoner2: I said "hey dude"
Prisoner 1: what?
P 2: no i said "hey dude"
P 1: what dude??
P 2: no... I said "hey dude"
P1: what dude what???
P2: forget it dude.

[Jackrabbit379]

Good idea Rosty, but they would have to "illegalize" it again just so they could get rid of the guys that always say, "dude". It would be like a hen house, except it would be, "dude, dude, dude", instead of cluck, cluck, cluck.

[Creek Jackson]

Good idea Rosty, but they would have to "illegalize" it again just so they could get rid of the guys that always say, "dude". It would be like a hen house, except it would be, "dude, dude, dude", instead of cluck, cluck, cluck.

[Jackrabbit379]

Please, don't ask. I don't know where that came from.

[matcat]

He was rambling on the keyboard because he had just finished smoking a big doob filled with the best chron you can get in America!

[Jackrabbit379]

Speaking of. I'm kinda hungry. I might get a bowl of ice cream.

[matcat]

rofl I was just contemplating taking a trip to wally world to get some snacks

[Windwalker]

I think the people that take chances with things like pot are nuts. Even if it was legallized, we would not be allowed to use it. Look at the list of medications that you can not take and drive a CMV. It would simply make WEED another one on that list. I doubt it would change anything as far as the testing.

And, why do I think they're nuts? Stupid, even???

There is a plant that is legal to grow anywhere in this country that contains opium. Grind up the seeds, and mix them into a couple of "roll-your-own's" and get as high as you want. Yet, grow pot and you lose your house. There are other things, too, that will get you high... Nice and high. And, they don't have a means of testing for them. Not illegal either. Things you can use and pass a UA one hour later with no problem at all.

No, I do not use them either. But I do know about them. There's one weed that grows from the Canadian line all the way down into SC, GA, AL, MS, and LA. As a kids in WI, we used to stuff the seeds into a pipe and light up. Tried it about 12 years ago when I ran out of cigarettes. No idea just what's in it, but I think I could walk straighter after downing a pint of blackberry brandy. I didn't remember that effect back when I was a kid, and I have not done that since. But if you know what your looking for, just walk along any fenceline and collect all the seeds you can carry in a zip-lock bag in a short time. A good location for about ten minutes, and you can stay in "LA LA LAND" for about a month.

With all the things available right here, why support foreign cartells that enslave, torture, and kill people? Look at what's going on at the Mexican Boarder these days. And, you want to make it legal to give them more money??????

[matcat]

I think the people that take chances with things like pot are nuts. Even if it was legallized, we would not be allowed to use it. Look at the list of medications that you can not take and drive a CMV. It would simply make WEED another one on that list. I doubt it would change anything as far as the testing.

And, why do I think they're nuts? Stupid, even???

There is a plant that is legal to grow anywhere in this country that contains opium. Grind up the seeds, and mix them into a couple of "roll-your-own's" and get as high as you want. Yet, grow pot and you lose your house. There are other things, too, that will get you high... Nice and high. And, they don't have a means of testing for them. Not illegal either. Things you can use and pass a UA one hour later with no problem at all.

No, I do not use them either. But I do know about them. There's one weed that grows from the Canadian line all the way down into SC, GA, AL, MS, and LA. As a kids in WI, we used to stuff the seeds into a pipe and light up. Tried it about 12 years ago when I ran out of cigarettes. No idea just what's in it, but I think I could walk straighter after downing a pint of blackberry brandy. I didn't remember that effect back when I was a kid, and I have not done that since. But if you know what your looking for, just walk along any fenceline and collect all the seeds you can carry in a zip-lock bag in a short time. A good location for about ten minutes, and you can stay in "LA LA LAND" for about a month.

With all the things available right here, why support foreign cartells that enslave, torture, and kill people? Look at what's going on at the Mexican Boarder these days. And, you want to make it legal to give them more money??????

One of the main points of making it legal is that it will STOP all of that, if it is legal you don't need an underground black market. Trust me if it where legalized there would probably be more pot growing in America then there is tobacco.

You don't see Tobacco smugglers pushing millions of pounds of tobacco illegally across the borders do you? No because there is no need to.

All of that Mexican Cartel crap only exists because America fights so hard to keep them from bringing it in, and on top of it they get so much more money because of it. Legalization would do many things to improve the situation, first off, it could be legally imported, with tarifs, BUT price will drop so low that the Cartels wouldn't even bother anymore because it wouldn't be worth it, some would probably go the legal route and just grow and import, but a lot of them will move on to other more profitable things, not to mention the import demand would drop drastically because of domestic growth. If the demand isn't that great, and profit low, they would stop anyway, even illegaly bringing it over the borders wouldn't be worth it because street value would be so low.

Yes there certainly are many substances that one can get high on that either grow in America or can be gotten in America that are perfectly legal, but for most it is just not the same as other drugs. That is like telling a heroin addict, "There is this drug called Kratum that is legal and is just like an opiate", he will tell you, "Why drink a beer when I can get some moonshine?" And yes Kratum is a real drug .

You are correct and I do agree, even legalized it would still fall in lines of a safety sensative impairment.

As a side note, I went to walmart bobtailed and got some snacks. Now when I came back out a car had parked in my way that I could not pull out forward, so I had to back out between 2 cars and around another, no big deal wasn't difficult to do. So I backed out, was in the process of going to a gear to go forward, and a chick in her 30's comes up to my window, "Man I can barely get my car (it was a little toyota) in and out of here, how do you do it with something that big?!" I just looked at her and quite seriously said, "Well Ma'am it is quite easy, you see I just close my eyes, and pretend there is nothing around me, and backup" I then gave her a big smile and took off. She looked at me like I just got done smoking something, I laughed all the way back to my parking spot

[RostyC]

Please, don't ask. I don't know where that came from.

Don't worry I got it.........................................DUDE!

[DaveP]

Speaking of. I'm kinda hungry. I might get a bowl of ice cream.

And some BIG bag of cheese doritos....and maybe a 3 musketeers bar.

Yeah.

Wait.....AND a peanutbutter and jelly sandwich.

And a nap.

Yep....that's what I want....a nap.

[Windwalker]

One of the main points of making it legal is that it will STOP all of that, if it is legal you don't need an underground black market. Trust me if it where legalized there would probably be more pot growing in America then there is tobacco.

You don't see Tobacco smugglers pushing millions of pounds of tobacco illegally across the borders do you? No because there is no need to.

All of that Mexican Cartel crap only exists because America fights so hard to keep them from bringing it in, and on top of it they get so much more money because of it. Legalization would do many things to improve the situation, first off, it could be legally imported, with tarifs, BUT price will drop so low that the Cartels wouldn't even bother anymore because it wouldn't be worth it, some would probably go the legal route and just grow and import, but a lot of them will move on to other more profitable things, not to mention the import demand would drop drastically because of domestic growth. If the demand isn't that great, and profit low, they would stop anyway, even illegaly bringing it over the borders wouldn't be worth it because street value would be so low.

And, did you know that in NE, there is an area where there are acres of pot growing, more or less, naturally? As long as it's not cultivated or harvested, there's no action taken. Back when my uncle farmed there, any field he put into "soil-bank" would develope "trees" that were 7 feet tall and more by the time he plowed them under.

If a farmer reports to the government, that it's growing there, he is told that he has 15 days to get rid of it all. But, if he doesn't say anything, neither do they. The fence-lines are full of it, there are whole fields of it. There's tons of it, all planted by bird droppings. And, it would be free for the taking. Yet, we're supporting those cartells. Why?

[matcat]

And, did you know that in NE, there is an area where there are acres of pot growing, more or less, naturally? As long as it's not cultivated or harvested, there's no action taken. Back when my uncle farmed there, any field he put into "soil-bank" would develope "trees" that were 7 feet tall and more by the time he plowed them under.

If a farmer reports to the government, that it's growing there, he is told that he has 15 days to get rid of it all. But, if he doesn't say anything, neither do they. The fence-lines are full of it, there are whole fields of it. There's tons of it, all planted by bird droppings. And, it would be free for the taking. Yet, we're supporting those cartells. Why?

Get me the phone number of some farmers up there, I will offer up free of charge 'tree' removal services

[rigidsporty]

What are your views on legalizing?

Works well in Amsterdam. Legalization has my vote. What people do in the privacy of their homes (for the most part) is nobodys business but theirs.

Just imagine, going out to eat, and your waiter is so doped up, he can't see straight.

Beer is legal but I have yet to be served by a drunk waiter. It would be regulated just like alcohol.

[GMAN]

I am not sure that legalizing marijuana or any drugs would have much, if any, impact on usage. Some years ago I was involved in an organization that attempted to educate people about the problems and dangers of drugs. During that time I had an opportunity to speak with a few addicts who started with marijuana and graduated to the harder drugs such as cocaine. Those to whom I spoke who started with pot felt that the marijuana was the starting point for their addiction. Drugs were just getting started when I was growing up. I don't recall anyone with whom I grew up with getting involved in drugs other than one guy and that was after we graduated high school. Since I don't have the personal experience with them I can only pass along what I have been told.

Whether pot is addictive or not to some, it may be to others. Alcohol doesn't seem to be addictive to some people, but is to others. I think there are certain people who have addictive personalities. In other words, there is something in their personality or chemical makeup that makes some addictive to drugs or alcohol. That is my concern. If it were legalized then it could be more accessible and acceptable to use then they might abuse it. That could create more societal problems. The only way to be sure is to legalize it and see. But, that is not something that I think would be best for our country or profession.

The reason some people use alcohol or drugs is to numb themselves or get them to the point that they don't have to think about their problems. You can never escape your problems. Taking drugs or alcohol only prolongs the inevitable and may even make matters worse.