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    Default Michael Phelps is High ;-(

    Yah.....and? I mean really, its freakin 2009 people. Can we at least admit that pot should be legalised? And if not can we at least admit that alcohol should be criminalised, lest a double standard continue existence? Unreal ;-(

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    Whose Micheal Phelps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit Lips View Post
    Whose Micheal Phelps?
    Wasn't he part of Monty Python's Flying Circus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit Lips View Post
    Whose Micheal Phelps?

    I think he is Mark Spitz's cousin

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    I heard about that on Fox News last night.

    That's really good for the kids.

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    Just think, all the other athletes he's beat over the years and in the Olympics are realizing they got beat by a pothead.
    I love it. Go Potheads!!!!
    The pot revolution is coming along just swimmingly.

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    He really should have known better than to smoke pot. It will cost him dearly in endorsements. It is a shame that he chose to display such a poor example for children. Whether you think pot should be legal or not, the fact is that it is illegal. Even if it were legal it isn't something that someone in his position should be doing. He is a role model. Any of us could be a role model and not even know it. I was told one time that you never know who is watching you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMAN View Post
    He really should have known better than to smoke pot. It will cost him dearly in endorsements. It is a shame that he chose to display such a poor example for children. Whether you think pot should be legal or not, the fact is that it is illegal. Even if it were legal it isn't something that someone in his position should be doing. He is a role model. Any of us could be a role model and not even know it. I was told one time that you never know who is watching you.

    Well if the media did not make these kind things public knowledge then the children would not know that these people used drugs of any kind , So it seems the issue of the children knowing these people use whatever drugs they do is the fault of the media .
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG JEEP on 44's View Post
    Well if the media did not make these kind things public knowledge then the children would not know that these people used drugs of any kind , So it seems the issue of the children knowing these people use whatever drugs they do is the fault of the media .
    ...and a lot of the media people are probably just as, if not more f'ed up than that Phelps guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMAN View Post
    He really should have known better than to smoke pot. It will cost him dearly in endorsements. It is a shame that he chose to display such a poor example for children. Whether you think pot should be legal or not, the fact is that it is illegal. Even if it were legal it isn't something that someone in his position should be doing. He is a role model. Any of us could be a role model and not even know it. I was told one time that you never know who is watching you.
    Athletes are not role models. I repeat, athletes are NOT role models. Role models are parents and sometimes a good teacher or a cop. Why does Michael Phelps get condemned publicly when "Joe pot head" does not for the same offense? Is it because a cereal company decided they can use his face to move some product? So what is it about Michael Phelps "position" that he should not be smoking pot even if it were legal Gman? Should he not drink a beer in public too? I would NEVER encourage my children to look upon athletes as role models, only as talented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derelict77 View Post
    I would NEVER encourage my children to look upon athletes as role models,
    Same is true for Presidents......My sons worship Bill Clinton. Egads!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobry4u View Post
    Same is true for Presidents......My sons worship Bill Clinton. Egads!
    are you sure they are yours? maybe they got switched at birth?

    i hear you. my daughter loves alex rodriguez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mommee View Post
    are you sure they are yours? maybe they got switched at birth?

    i hear you. my daughter loves alex rodriguez.

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    My youngest use to worship Dennis Rodman.....That is his dad's genes coming through

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    Quote Originally Posted by derelict77 View Post
    Athletes are not role models. I repeat, athletes are NOT role models. Role models are parents and sometimes a good teacher or a cop. Why does Michael Phelps get condemned publicly when "Joe pot head" does not for the same offense? Is it because a cereal company decided they can use his face to move some product? So what is it about Michael Phelps "position" that he should not be smoking pot even if it were legal Gman? Should he not drink a beer in public too? I would NEVER encourage my children to look upon athletes as role models, only as talented.
    I agree, Americans get way to hung up on the whole role model thing. These people dont sign up to be role models and figure heads for the way to live your life right, they get into these sports because it is what they are good at and it is something they enjoy doing and can make a life off of without punching a clock everyday. Phelps doesnt owe anybody anything,the guy worked hiss ass off to get where he is as a swimmer and doesnt owe your kids anything and if a picture of michael phelps ripping a hit out of a bong is enough to steer a kid down a bad road then there are some problems with the way that kid was raised in the first place. Athletes arent there to raise your kids to do the right thing, athletes are there to do a job, do it well and give you people entertainment. This guy has pulled down 8 gold medals for the almighty U.S. Olympic team and gave millions of Americans something to cheer for and be happy over for a few days, he doesnt owe anybody a thing past doing what he did,If he wants a massive rip off of a bong after putting U.S. athletics back on the map on a worldwide scale then more power to him. Outside of being a spectacular human in a swimming pool he is just a normal 23 year old guy. This country needs to get over itself and learn how to be their own kids role models and teach them not to rely on the actions of others as a way to guide their own lives.

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    I would prefer that parents and teachers be the role models for our children. In many cases that is true. However, whether we like it or not athletes and entertainers are role models for many of our youth. There was a time when the media didn't tell everything about the personal lives of entertainers and athletes. Now, nothing is private. Those who look to these people as role models will mimic their behavior to be like them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derelict77 View Post
    Athletes are not role models. I repeat, athletes are NOT role models. Role models are parents and sometimes a good teacher or a cop. Why does Michael Phelps get condemned publicly when "Joe pot head" does not for the same offense? Is it because a cereal company decided they can use his face to move some product? So what is it about Michael Phelps "position" that he should not be smoking pot even if it were legal Gman? Should he not drink a beer in public too? I would NEVER encourage my children to look upon athletes as role models, only as talented.
    Why is a teacher or cop a role model but not an athlete? Like it or not, yes they are role models. Do you think a young boy has daydreams of becoming the best cop in the city? Ummm...no. Now that does not mean Phelps is required to live up to that role. He can do as he pleases. Then the fans can decide whether or not he is still their role model. But if a cereal company is paying good money for a particular image then he is required to deliver that image or lose the sponsorship.

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    I agree, Americans get way to hung up on the whole role model thing. These people dont sign up to be role models and figure heads for the way to live your life right, they get into these sports because it is what they are good at and it is something they enjoy doing and can make a life off of without punching a clock everyday. Phelps doesnt owe anybody anything,the guy worked hiss ass off to get where he is as a swimmer and doesnt owe your kids anything and if a picture of michael phelps ripping a hit out of a bong is enough to steer a kid down a bad road then there are some problems with the way that kid was raised in the first place. Athletes arent there to raise your kids to do the right thing, athletes are there to do a job, do it well and give you people entertainment. This guy has pulled down 8 gold medals for the almighty U.S. Olympic team and gave millions of Americans something to cheer for and be happy over for a few days, he doesnt owe anybody a thing past doing what he did,If he wants a massive rip off of a bong after putting U.S. athletics back on the map on a worldwide scale then more power to him. Outside of being a spectacular human in a swimming pool he is just a normal 23 year old guy. This country needs to get over itself and learn how to be their own kids role models and teach them not to rely on the actions of others as a way to guide their own lives.
    I agree with most of what you say. The guy can live his life the way he wants. We either admire him for it or chastise him for it depending on our own beliefs. You're right in that he doesnt owe you or me anything. And we're all responsible for our own choices. But again, he does owe his sponsors. They did not pay good money for a pothead. Same as Michael Vick. Not saying smoking pot is as bad as killing dogs just saying that is not what they paid for. As for the media. That's how they make their money. Dirty laundry. If we didn't read it they wouldn't try so hard to find it.

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    These sponsors have a certain image they want to portray. If their representative chooses to not maintain the image they want to present then it is their option to cancel his contract. Parents don't want their children to emulate someone who is doing drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RostyC View Post
    Just think, all the other athletes he's beat over the years and in the Olympics are realizing they got beat by a pothead.
    More importantly, they were beat by a guy who was all "hopped up" on pot! Doesn't matter that he may have smoked it some 20 days BEFORE the competition... he is probably STILL under its influence, and as such, it surely affected his performance.

    At least, that is the reasoning the FMCSA uses for the low cutoff level it uses for THC metabolyte limits.
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    He really should have known better than to smoke pot. It will cost him dearly in endorsements.
    Sounds like a real grown-up rational way of thinking. I'm sure when he grows up, he'll think that way. Right now, he's just a kid.

    It is a shame that he chose to display such a poor example for children.
    Yeah, cuz.... as a KID himself, I'm sure the FIRST thing he thought about while at a party with people his own age was how this would look to a younger child who wasn't there. I'm sure it was a conscious CHOICE.

    Whether you think pot should be legal or not, the fact is that it is illegal.
    Not in SOME advanced civilized countries. Perhaps, he should have taken his talent and won those 8 individual medals for Finland, or something.

    Even if it were legal it isn't something that someone in his position should be doing.
    Right.... which is why NO JUDGES are allowed, or ever would, drink alcohol at a party.

    He is a role model.
    So is Snoop Doggy Dog and Marilyn Manson. Which would you rather your kids emulate? He's also a human, and as such is not "perfect." NO ONE should be held to such a high standard.

    Any of us could be a role model and not even know it.
    As I just said, there are all types of role models. I suppose, under your standards, you would ban all "secular" music / rock bands, etc. Better stop letting actors make movies while you're at it. Oh, and... we better get rid of all Tel-Evangelists, too! And, I got a huge list of Catholic Priests we can burn at the stake!

    I was told one time that you never know who is watching you.
    Now, THAT is really scary! Not only do I have to worry about unduly influencing George W. Bush, but now I gotta worry about some kid I walk by in the mall!

    Not looking for an argument or putting your opinions down, GMAN. Just a little food for thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by derelict77 View Post
    Athletes are not role models. I repeat, athletes are NOT role models. Role models are parents and sometimes a good teacher or a cop. Why does Michael Phelps get condemned publicly when "Joe pot head" does not for the same offense? Is it because a cereal company decided they can use his face to move some product? So what is it about Michael Phelps "position" that he should not be smoking pot even if it were legal Gman? Should he not drink a beer in public too? I would NEVER encourage my children to look upon athletes as role models, only as talented.
    I understand your point, Delelict, and mostly agree with it. But...

    Fact is, for many underprivileged (and often inner city) youth, athletes ARE role models. They give hope of getting out of the ghetto (or trailer park, or off the farm...) and usually that includes the requirement to at least ATTEND a college!

    Teachers have been accused of pedophilia. Cops often murder their wives. No one is "exempt" from the human condition.

    It is unfortunate that, in SOOO many cases, the parents are NOT good role models for much of our youth. I wish it weren't so. But, wishing doesn't make it true.

    For a kid who grows up with a drunken, abusive, or absent father or mother... all they can think about is getting OUT and getting away! Athletes often show that they have done just that. There's no getting around it. In many ways, athletes ARE role models.

    I think we do a disservice to our youth by assuming they are too stupid to know which are the "better" role models, or just which of the human foibles they should avoid.

    And for what it's worth, I don't have a problem with the media spotlighting the pitfalls that we ALL could encounter regardless of whose example we choose to follow.
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