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    Default I 81 Accident

    I was stuck in this along with a lot of others. Took six hours to move nine miles.

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    INWOOD, W.Va. — An isolated snow squall that brought sudden whiteout conditions Thursday morning led to accidents in Berkeley County, including a 16-vehicle crash on southbound Interstate 81 that sent at least 15 people to local hospitals.

    The I-81 pileup happened at 8:19 a.m. about a mile south of Exit 8 (Tabler Station Road) and involved at least six tractor-trailers, Berkeley County Sheriff's Department Lt. R.L. Gardner said.

    There were at least eight other crashes in Berkeley County at the same time, including one on northbound I-81 south of Inwood, said Don Scheuch, chief of Berkeley County Ambulance 30.

    "It was a whiteout, and it iced up immediately," Scheuch said.

    Those injured in the southbound pileup were taken to City Hospital in Martinsburg and to Winchester (Va.) Medical Center, Scheuch said. He said none of the injuries appeared to be life-threatening.

    The southbound lanes of I-81 were closed at Exit 8 for more than seven hours, causing a backup that extended as far as Martinsburg, W.Va.

    The southbound pileup apparently began when traffic slowed behind an accident near the 7-mile marker, Gardner said. Because of the slippery conditions, some vehicles were unable to stop, and a UPS truck and a pickup truck hauling a trailer collided, he said.

    "That pretty much caused a chain reaction," Gardner said.

    Scheuch said he was responding to the nearby accident on northbound I-81 when he heard the sound of tractor-trailers colliding.

    "I knew it was gonna be bad 'cause (the sound) was just continuous," he said.

    Drivers involved in the accident said the snow squall took them by surprise. The weather had been fine and the highway was clear until the few miles just before the crash, where the road become dusted with snow, said truck driver Tom Sojak, who was headed from New Jersey to Winchester for Tiger Transport.

    Then, suddenly, everything went white, Sojak said.

    Barely able to see out his windshield, Sojak suddenly saw that the tractor-trailer in front of him was stopped. He was driving slowly, but knew he would not have time to stop completely.

    "I was trying to slam on my brakes, trying to do whatever I could to try to avoid it, but there was only so much I could do. There's only so much the truck can do," Sojak said. "It takes a lot of distance to stop that truck."

    Sojak's windshield shattered as he slammed into the back of the truck in front of him, then his trailer crumpled as another truck struck him from behind.

    "I was lucky to come out of it alive and well," said Sojak, whose only injury was a cut on his hand from the glass.

    "The back end of the trailer probably could have decapitated my head for all I know," he said. "If I woulda been going faster, like 50 to 60 mph, I probably woulda been a goner."

    Another truck driver, who asked to be identified only as Joseph K. because he feared repercussions from his trucking company, said he was able to stop when he saw traffic stopped ahead, but another truck struck his from behind, pushing him into two cars in front of him. Another tractor-trailer behind him swerved in an attempt to avoid a crash, but ended up striking his trailer in the side.

    Joseph said if the traffic stopped in front of him would have had emergency flashers on, he might not have had to stop so suddenly.

    The crash happened at almost the exact spot where an eight-vehicle collision, also during a snow squall, took the life of a Chambersburg, Pa., man last January.

    Daniel G. Snyder, 57, died at the scene of the Jan. 15, 2008, accident involving his car, another passenger vehicle, a school bus, four tractor-trailers and a box truck.

    Thirty minutes after that 2008 crash, Robert N. Bruffey, 67, of Gerrardstown, W.Va., died on nearby Apple Harvest Drive when his vehicle left the snow-covered road and crashed into a tree.

    Gardner said the area's geography might be to blame for the similar crashes.


    "I don't know if it's the flat lay of the ground, the way the wind tears through here, or not," he said.

    Gardner said Thursday morning's crash involved more vehicles than any he had seen in recent years. Fortunately, none were carrying hazardous materials and the injuries were minor in comparison with the damage, he said.

    Of the 16 vehicles involved, only two could be driven away under their own power, he said.

    The rest gradually were towed away, though two of the trailers were so badly damaged they had to be unloaded first, Gardner said.

    By about noon, all of the remaining vehicles had been moved to the left lane so the traffic immediately behind the crash could pass.

    The lanes were reopened at 4:12 p.m., according to the West Virginia Department of Transportation.

    West Virginia State Police, the West Virginia Public Service Commission, the Department of Transportation, South Berkeley Fire Department, the 167th Air National Guard and the Berkeley County Emergency Ambulance Authority also assisted with the crash.

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    I was caught very off gaurd when this came sweeping thru Md. It went from sun shinning to white out in about a mile and after 15 minutes it was over. Very strange storm indeed
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    Lord that looked pretty rough RostyC. No whiteout is fun when it comes on so fast.

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    Rosty! Thanks for posting this!! I took the US340 detour and only lost 45 minutes on my day, instead of sitting in that backup.

    LOL....Stopped at Tom's Brook for a sandwich and after getting back on the road, the floodgates were opened up...and all the idiots that had become frustrated with the delays came whizzing by me!
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    Default Help me with the math . .

    Somehow, this:

    " . . Barely able to see out his windshield, Sojak suddenly saw that the tractor-trailer in front of him was stopped. He was driving slowly, but knew he would not have time to stop completely."

    Plus this:

    http://www.herald-mail.com/?cmd=media&media_id=32514

    Don't add up.


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    cd, he was hit from behind by another truck that was obviously going much faster than Sojak was. What makes it look so much worse was that the Napa Trans trailer folded in half which picked the back end up off the ground. By doing that, Sojak had the end of that trailer basically as high as his hood and it ramped up onto his truck. He basically ended up submarining it even though he was going slow and then the next truck into the pile pushed him further under it.

    What's funny about Sojak's truck, it looks like a Cincy Bengals truck while he is wearing a Steelers hat in the pic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95 View Post
    cd, he was hit from behind by another truck that was obviously going much faster than Sojak was. What makes it look so much worse was that the Napa Trans trailer folded in half which picked the back end up off the ground. By doing that, Sojak had the end of that trailer basically as high as his hood and it ramped up onto his truck. He basically ended up submarining it even though he was going slow and then the next truck into the pile pushed him further under it.

    What's funny about Sojak's truck, it looks like a Cincy Bengals truck while he is wearing a Steelers hat in the pic.
    Actually, Mr. Ford, by his OWN admission, he slammed into the back of the truck ahead of him, breaking his windshield and saved (probably) only by his seatbelt, BEFORE he was hit from behind.

    I'm with CDSwans. The math don't add up! And, even if it DID, the fact that he "slammed on his brakes" guaranteed that he would slide right into the truck in front of him. He panicked, pure and simple. He DIDN'T slow down enough when he encountered the conditions, nor did HE put on his flashers (that we know of.)

    I've been in such "sudden squalls," and I know there is SOME warning. You must ALWAYS expect stopped or very slow traffic in front of you when this happens. He was not driving defensively... as I see it.

    If I'm not mistaken, he was in the fast lane. I doubt he was going as slow as he said.
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    No doubt hobo, but what made it look worse was the trailer in front folding in the middle. Had it not folded in the middle it would not have looked so bad particulary after he was rammed from behind himself. I'm certain he wasn't going no 10-15 mph but you'd be surprised how hard an impact is at 6 mph when you hit a stationary object. I cracked a windshield in a junker pickup that we play around with in the woods.

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    " . . but knew he would not have time to stop completely."

    Looks to me like he found time.

    Excellent analysis, Mr. Ford but I'm still skeptical. You're thinking whatever impact NAPA had prior to taking the tiger in the tail collapsed his trailer? I ain't insinuatin' nuthin' . . I have zero experience with these matters.

    To be fair, I'm pushing into the nieghborhood of 700,000 safe (for me, at least) miles. I have yet to witness a truck on truck crash, and very few car crashes for that matter. I've seen the aftermath of a few but . . knock on wood . . can offer no first hand accounts.

    Hobo nails it on speed analysis. I am truly lower 48, irregular route OTR. I'm everywhere and when I get there I tend to regionalize, for awhile. As you (noob viewers/wannabes) might expect, you get a little familiar with some of the regional fleets and how the heck are you going to forget a Tiger trrruck? I'm forever checking the median because I figure they must have a terminal there. Right lane? Off limits.

    Stan . . I was there (Loves, Toms Brook) at 0115, this morning. Wanted to swing in, grab a cup of coffee and go. Didn't happen. The fuel island was jammed and all the short term "special needs" spots were double and triple parked.
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    No cd, I'm saying that when the Napa truck was hit by the Tiger truck, it folded the Napa trailer in half and he may have just started to go under the trailer, ie: it started to ride up onto the hood. When the Tiger truck got rear-ended by the next truck in line, it shoved him on under the trailer even further. As far as the windshield breaking, it can be broken rather easy even in a very low speed wreck. Those low speed wrecks have some energy behind them that you don't expect. That of course is assuming it was 5-10 seconds before the next truck piled in. If it was only a second later(meaning the following truck was way too close for the conditions) then that was probably when the windshield actually broke but Sojak would think it was from the initial impact. Personally, I think the windshield didn't break until he was shoved under the trailer further, not by the initial impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdswans View Post
    " . . but knew he would not have time to stop completely."

    Looks to me like he found time.

    Excellent analysis, Mr. Ford but I'm still skeptical. You're thinking whatever impact NAPA had prior to taking the tiger in the tail collapsed his trailer? I ain't insinuatin' nuthin' . . I have zero experience with these matters.

    To be fair, I'm pushing into the nieghborhood of 700,000 safe (for me, at least) miles. I have yet to witness a truck on truck crash, and very few car crashes for that matter. I've seen the aftermath of a few but . . knock on wood . . can offer no first hand accounts.

    Hobo nails it on speed analysis. I am truly lower 48, irregular route OTR. I'm everywhere and when I get there I tend to regionalize, for awhile. As you (noob viewers/wannabes) might expect, you get a little familiar with some of the regional fleets and how the heck are you going to forget a Tiger trrruck? I'm forever checking the median because I figure they must have a terminal there. Right lane? Off limits.

    Stan . . I was there (Loves, Toms Brook) at 0115, this morning. Wanted to swing in, grab a cup of coffee and go. Didn't happen. The fuel island was jammed and all the short term "special needs" spots were double and triple parked.
    CD...I pulled out of Tom's Brook, about the time that the frustrated masses hung up by that closure hit Tom's. I stopped in there about 4...left out about 4:45 and the road went from moderate traffic to Idiot traffic in minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95 View Post
    No cd, I'm saying that when the Napa truck was hit by the Tiger truck, it folded the Napa trailer in half and he may have just started to go under the trailer, ie: it started to ride up onto the hood. When the Tiger truck got rear-ended by the next truck in line, it shoved him on under the trailer even further . .
    Gutcha. But that just goes back to my original highly speculative conclusion . . and I assert ZERO expertise, here . . he was only going fast enough to fold the NAPA trailer? I'm no engineer and I am somewhat familiar with the chaotic nature of force dynamics, especially in an uncontrolled environment. Either he found a particularly peculiar vulnerability in that trailer or maybe NAPA was a late braker and got the trailer hopping? It looks like NAPA's left drives are off the pavement, maybe that got (I'm guessing) his right tandems up in the air? Unless it was Tiger who put him there. It still doesn't change my view that Sojak was somewhat insincere in his telling of events. matcat did a panic stop from 55 and lost his front end back to the radiator with no damage to the target trailer. Different deal, I know.

    Getting back to Hobo's comment about the squall . . I've seen my share and I can't recall that I've ever seen one fall like a net. It's hard to draw a conclusion from the pic with the wrecker but it doesn't appear that NAPA hit anything. I have to believe that everyone saw it coming but not everyone reacted appropriately.
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    Default This is in today's news . .

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    Photo Detail|ABC24-CW30 Eyewitness News | Memphis, TN

    Story . .

    3 Year-Old Critical, 2 Others Hurt in Wreck on I-40|ABC24-CW30 Eyewitness News | Memphis, TN

    The story offers no explanation for the initial crash . . hope this kid is made of rubber. It isn't hard to imagine why the second crash occurred . . perfect weather and no mention of a slick road.
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    Mabe one day it'll sink in. There are always accedents on I-81, I think ppl don't use thier head on this road.

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