Trucker fined $500 for failing roadside English test

[JewelsnTools]

I have been, on occasion, known to "over-analyze" certain things, so I can hear your point. With that said, I don't believe that's the case here.

While I agree that fluency in English is of primary importance, especially in the US, can you honestly believe that we'll continue to wield the power we've had historically when we've begun to do things like "leasing" major roadways, signing NAFTA agreements, and borrowing from other countries to the point that they could send our economy into a tailspin by simply calling in the debt??

I'm not saying any of the candidates are "saviors". I simply believe that his point was that we, as a nation, would be wise to wake up to the globalization of the marketplace...and in preparation, become able and willing to converse/conduct business in other languages. That's just plain good business sense.

Is it hypocritical to offer a warning to others as well as to yourself? If a person identifies a problem, should he wait until he's a perfect model of the solution before he sounds the warning?

Since we're in America, and ALL of our street signs/warnings/directions are printed in English, and since that is the accepted spoken/written/read language here, it would only make sense that someone who's operating an 80,000 pound vehicle would be required to be fluent in this language. No dispute there.

[Colin]

I don't understand when people are going around worrying about we need to have English only. They want to pass a law we want just uh, we want English only. Now I agree that immigrants should learn English. I agree with that. Now instead of worrying about whether immigrants can learn English. They'll learn English. You need to make sure your child can speak Spanish. You should be thinking about how can your child can become bilingual. We should have every child speaking more than one language. You know it's embarrassing, it's embarrassing when Europeans come over here. They all speak English they speak French they speak German. And then we go over to Europe and all we can say is merci beaucoup. Right?

He hits the point hard and then pulls back and says should the second time. Just like any politician. Although no one mentions that he did pull back from his initial point, stating "we need to make sure". That's not the same as "you should" make sure.

The only thing being parroted about is, "Don't worry, when our next President, Osama Hussein Obama gets elected, he will mandate that all of us learn Spanish."

That's what he said recently...we're too stupid for own good!

Yeah, mandate never was said. Forced was never said. Require was never said. Should was said more than "we need". By mentioning Europeans speaking 3 languages or more, that exactly is insinuating we are behind in language programs.

And do as I say, what politician doesn't do that? Obama's no different and I hate it in all of them. Kissing babies or stealing their candy. Always doing one of those...

[belpre122]

This moron has been driving for 20 years and can only speak English at a 3rd grade level?!? :shock:

In my opinion, at least a high school minimum speaking, reading and writing level should be required to operate a CMV.

Well - that knocks out about half of the drivers out here now.

And the writing requirement knocks out about 2/3 of the members here.

I think that you were being gentle on that estimate Rev. :P

[Phantom433a]

We don't have an "official language". But most say English is our language but it has never been made official.

Arizona passed a law last year making English the legal language for Arizona. Seems stupid to me.....we don't speak English, we speak American.

[jiptwoo]

Like it or not but america is for everyone, and many nationalities when they settle here settle within their own communities where their language is spoken. If they came and settled in your communities you would be crying about that. Now he only speaks on a 3rd. grade level, well that is good enough to communicate most anything to anyone. Just talk to a 6 or 7 yr old they speak english good enough to talk to anyone, and that would only be the second grade. Besides we live in a country where most of us are not smarter than a 5th. grader, or can you answer those questions on our american t.v. show. That ticket was probably as unfair as many brake adjustment tickets we receive at scale houses. Lastly, that is a large cultural gap, he was hispanic and the trooper from the woods of where? alabama, hell I may not have understood him either, one could not possibly set a standard for a ticket like that, it leaves too much for one's discretion, and predjudice, which is on a serious rise in america lately.

[jonekatz1]

That's all very interesting seeings in New York State U don't even have to Read to take the Drivers test,They will have someone Read it to FOR U.If you CAN'T? Figure that one out ? 8) :!:

[jiptwoo]

Show me the proof of that, not talk, the proof, or I'll just have to disregard that as hear say. Which in all circles there is mostly all; hear say.

[jonekatz1]

There is no Need To On My Part,

I Don't Respond to Demands.F.Y.I! I Found this out from NYS Driver License OK !

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[jiptwoo]

Do or don't, it's simple your just talk and hearsay, I,m just not dumb enough to believe you, making statements which are totally untrue.

[jiptwoo]

Ok, I just read an article which somewhat describes what your are saying. It is not quite the same as your point but it is close enough. So in light of these findings I,ll step back quiet on this part of the issue.

[jonekatz1]

Sorry if There was,

Some confusion jiptwoo. My Comments were not in direct response to UR post, It's just an Observation on My part,That in New York they will actually have someOne read the written portion of the test to A individual. But U have to take in to consideration That the Former Hooker Acquiring Gov Wanted License's for Illegal 's Too 8) :idea:

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[jiptwoo]

Jonekatz1, I just read another article totally by mistake and you are 100% correct. It seems n.j. will supply interpreters for the test in italian, spanish and who knows what other language.That is for the regular license, and only spanish for the cdl, I have to say that I don't agree with that. Darn, I always have to apologize, that is what happens when I run off at the mouth too fast; my apologizes.

[jonekatz1]

We're COOL,

As far as I'm concerned ! All the Hub Bub U read about that takes place in the world anymore Really Does have to make U THINK! I just read about A Vietnam Veteran in Seattle that wanted to Help his Community in the Rainier Beach Area of Seattle,He was concerned for Kids & There Pets
Safety because of Speeders in the area & he went to the City of Seattle to see if A Traffic Circle could be established, Anyway the City Approved it & He planted A Garden in it which he Cared for,He put some safety cones out so People were aware of Him and to be cautious and hopefully not run over his Garden hose, An Altercation occurred with some Teen Age girls & one told her boy friend & he came over & Sucker Punched the Vet Hitting his Head on the pavement and Went Into A Coma & Dyed the next day because of his injuries, so you just never know anymore! I'ts A Cruel & Callous WORLD anymore.







[quote]I Never Met A Man I Didn't Like- Will Rodgers 8) :idea: te] 8)

[jonekatz1]

We're COOL,

As far as I'm concerned ! All the Hub Bub U read about that takes place in the world anymore Really Does have to make U THINK! I just read about A Vietnam Veteran in Seattle that wanted to Help his Community in the Rainier Beach Area of Seattle,He was concerned for Kids & There Pets
Safety because of Speeders in the area & he went to the City of Seattle to see if A Traffic Circle could be established, Anyway the City Approved it & He planted A Garden in it which he Cared for,He put some safety cones out so People were aware of Him and to be cautious and hopefully not run over his Garden hose, An Altercation occurred with some Teen Age girls & one told her boy friend & he came over & Sucker Punched the Vet Hitting his Head on the pavement and Went Into A Coma & Dyed the next day because of his injuries, so you just never know anymore! It's a Cold & Callous WORLD anymore!

I Never Met A Man I Didn't Like- Will Rodgers 8) :idea: