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    Default Yet another poor choice for president

    Ralph Nader announced this morning that he is going to run for president again, oh joy, I can hardly wait!!

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    He's been largely ignored for quite awhile.....he just wants to get some face time and sound bites to boost his low self esteem.

    But, regardless....he's on par with the rest of the grunts that are running for POTUS....
    Forrest Gump was right....and some people literally strive to prove it.....everyday. Strive not to be one of "them".... And "lemmings" are a dime a dozen!

    Remember: The "truth WILL set you free"! If it doesn't "set you free"....."it will trap you in the cesspool of your own design".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skywalker
    He's been largely ignored for quite awhile.....he just wants to get some face time and sound bites to boost his low self esteem.

    But, regardless....he's on par with the rest of the grunts that are running for POTUS....
    Maybe Detroit can build another really unsafe car so he will have something to do

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    now all i'm waiting for is the news of the mass suicide of ron paul supporters after he either drops out of the race/loses the election. they're like a cult. no freeway overpass, internet forum, giant boulder in some mountain pass, or anything else that can be spray painted or hung with fliers, is too sacred for the paultards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syncrosonix


    now all i'm waiting for is the news of the mass suicide of ron paul supporters after he either drops out of the race/loses the election. they're like a cult. no freeway overpass, internet forum, giant boulder in some mountain pass, or anything else that can be spray painted or hung with fliers, is too sacred for the paultards.
    he already dropped out, where you been?

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    now all i'm waiting for is the news of the mass suicide of ron paul supporters after he either drops out of the race/loses the election. they're like a cult. no freeway overpass, internet forum, giant boulder in some mountain pass, or anything else that can be spray painted or hung with fliers, is too sacred for the paultards.
    he already dropped out, where you been?

    he has? ****, i dunno where i've been, then. i haven't seen or read any news reports of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syncrosonix
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    now all i'm waiting for is the news of the mass suicide of ron paul supporters after he either drops out of the race/loses the election. they're like a cult. no freeway overpass, internet forum, giant boulder in some mountain pass, or anything else that can be spray painted or hung with fliers, is too sacred for the paultards.
    he already dropped out, where you been?

    he has? $&!+, i dunno where i've been, then. i haven't seen or read any news reports of it.
    That's okay Syncro..... we're here to "Educate the uninformed, and to inform the uneducated." :wink:
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    Yeah, Nader is just what this country needs!!

    Well, the good news is that it takes money to campaign, and Nader doesn't have much going for him!!


    GObama'08!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Useless
    Yeah, Nader is just what this country needs!!

    Well, the good news is that it takes money to campaign, and Nader doesn't have much going for him!!


    GObama'08!!
    Good Lord...Not another Texas republican on the Obama bandwagon !
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    OBAMA = America Growing up

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    NOBAMA '08!!
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    I'm amazed at how many truckers are Republican;

    Based upon what I've seen, the Republicans have screwed professional drivers to the bone!!

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    How is it we evil republicans are screwing truck drivers again? Can you name the policies that were created by the GOP that hurt you as a truck driver?

    Lets see what the democrats have planned. Well, both Obama and hillary want to raise taxes on oil companies. Here is a little quiz. What happens when you raise taxes on oil companies? A. The price of gas goes up because oil companies are going to do what they have to so they can continue to make a profit. Or... B. Oil companies lower gas prices because they thinking paying more and making less money is a great idea.

    Both Hillary and Obama want to add a 50 cents per gallon gas tax on cosumers like me and you. Because we are just using too much gas and people who drive big gas eating things like trucks must be punished.
    Another quiz. If the price of gas goes up 50 cents more and trucking companies pay for gas, would that cause pay for truckers to go up or down?

    Hillary wants to lower the national speed limit back to 55mph. Pop quiz time. If the speed limit is 55mph which of these things might happen. A. Truck drivers will get more miles and get less tickets. B. JB hunt and Swift will no longer be the slowest people on the road. C. Truck drivers will be very happy driving 55mph everywhere for the same pay per mile.

    Hillary and Obama both want to raise corporate taxes big time. QUIZ: True or false? When you take more money from corporations, they like to pay their employees more.

    Maybe you think that its NAFTA thats hurting truck drivers. Well Obama is 100% for NAFTA and allowing mexican truck drivers here.

    Perhaps you like most drivers might thing that trucking started to go downhill after Deregulation. What was that Bill again? Oh yes, the Motor Carrier act of 1980. Who signed that again? Oh Yeah, Jimmy Carter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Useless
    I'm amazed at how many truckers are Republican;

    Based upon what I've seen, the Republicans have screwed professional drivers to the bone!!
    Republicans screw everyone to the bone, but we do it slower than the Democrats. That is why some of us are so insistant upon getting a true conservative into office. Maybe then we can reverse the trend. We already hear from the two Democrats running for office how much the will raise taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokk
    OBAMA = America Growing up
    Well..... isn't it about time?
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    You would think the Republicans would be happy Nader is in the race. He will only take votes from the Dems.
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    The Motor Carrier Act was originally proposed and enacted in various forms originating with Nixon, then through Ford then Carter signed into law the Act of 1980.
    I find it rather amusing when corporate America cries and throws a temper tantrum on too much gov’t regulation, and then when the regulations are removed, sometimes promoting competition, a possibly better deal for the “consumer” they scream and throw a temper tantrum that they aren’t making enough money. It usually isn’t the actual competition that’s hurts them, it’s the over inflated salaries and perks handed to a bloated number of top management personnel that causes them to be less competitive.

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    Clinton and Obama are speaking of a revision or renewal of the “windfall profits tax” on oil companies, this is not a sole Democratic position. There are Republicans also in support of this. No work is currently underway on any new legislation that I know of at this moment. And I doubt seriously if such a bill would ever pass through a corrupted Congress.
    ……
    There is nothing wrong with closing tax loopholes, “loopholes” that many times give one company a advantage over another, discourages competition and that corporations actually pay at least some taxes.
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    A weak economy, new tax breaks, and aggressive tax sheltering have pushed corporate income tax receipts down to historically low levels, both relative to the size of the economy and as a share of total federal revenues. According to the most recent budget projections of the Congressional Budget Office, corporate revenues will remain at historically low levels even after the economy recovers, and even if the large new corporate tax breaks enacted in 2002 and 2003 are allowed to expire on schedule.
    Deficits over the next decade are now projected to be enormous in size. A joint analysis by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, the Concord Coalition, and the Committee for Economic Development projects deficits totaling $5 trillion through 2013. An analysis by Brookings economists reaches a very similar conclusion, while Goldman Sachs projects deficits totaling $5.5 trillion.[1] Despite the deteriorating fiscal outlook and the historically low corporate revenue collections we already face, Congress nonetheless seems poised to shower more tax breaks on corporations that would cause deficits to grow substantially larger over time (see box).
    ***Treasury Department figures show that actual corporate income tax revenues fell to $132 billion in 2003, down 36 percent from $207 billion in 2000.

    ***As a result of these low levels, corporate revenues in 2003 represented only 1.2 percent of the Gross Domestic Product (the basic measure of the size of the economy), the lowest level since 1983, the year in which corporate receipts plummeted to levels last seen in the 1930s.

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    Corporations SHOULDNT PAY ANY TAX AS A WHOLE. Corporations are owned by the stockholders and investors and they already pay taxes. Taxing the corporations AND THE INVESTORS (owners) is double taxation.

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    It usually isn’t the actual competition that’s hurts them, it’s the over inflated salaries and perks handed to a bloated number of top management personnel that causes them to be less competitive

    There is NO SUCH THING as an over inflated salary. Nor does anyone elses salary cause yours to be lower. This should get the debate started...
    Everyone in this country is FREE to earn as much as they want.

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    Well, 1 has to be taxed. Either the corporation, or the one that receives the stock dividend. Which one?
    Just out of curosity, why should corporations be exempt from taxation?
    If the shareholders are the ones being taxed, at what rate would the receivers of stock dividends (income) be taxed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokk
    OBAMA = America Growing up
    Great, let's elect a Senator who's been in office all of two years. And one of those years has been solely used to run for president.

    What are his accomplishments? Two years as a U.S. Senator(really only one year) and eight years as a State Senator. He has NO experience running a local, state or federal government.

    How is his voting record? Here's a little nugget I read in Newsweek this week. Obama the great bipartisan uniter has voted inline with the Democrats 95% of the time!

    Only NOW has the press started to look at his background and do some hard reporting. And what they are coming back with will start to wake people up a little. The guy is empty rhetoric and he will make a great motivational speaker one day. But most of the people who I run across who are enamored with him can't offer ANY substinance about why he qualifies to run the most powerful country in the world.

    Just look at Chris Matthews schooling Texas Senator Kirk Watson.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj4VK9wVAi0
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