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    Looks like all the President is worried about is strained diplomatic relations. He will have to come with a better arguement than that!!!


    Bush Administration Seeks Appeals Court Ruling Allowing Mexican Cargo Trucks in Country
    Thursday , August 30, 2007




    SAN FRANCISCO —

    The Bush administration urged a federal appeals court Thursday to let Mexican cargo trucks cross the border and freely travel anywhere in the country, arguing that to do otherwise could strain diplomatic relations between the U.S. and Mexico.

    The Teamsters Union on Wednesday asked the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals to stop the program, which could go into effect as early as Saturday.

    The union argues that the administration plan, which would let as many as 100 registered Mexican trucks deliver their cargo anywhere in the country for the next year as part of a "demonstration program," would endanger public highways because safety issues have not been resolved.

    But in its filing Thursday, government lawyers said the trucks enrolled in the program meet U.S. trucking regulations and the program is a necessary part of the North American Free Trade Agreement.

    "Participating Mexican carriers must comply with all legal requirements governing operations of domestically owned carriers, and in some cases stricter requirements," wrote Assistant Attorney

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokeeater
    Looks like all the President is worried about is strained diplomatic relations. He will have to come with a better arguement than that!!!


    Bush Administration Seeks Appeals Court Ruling Allowing Mexican Cargo Trucks in Country
    Thursday , August 30, 2007




    SAN FRANCISCO —

    The Bush administration urged a federal appeals court Thursday to let Mexican cargo trucks cross the border and freely travel anywhere in the country, arguing that to do otherwise could strain diplomatic relations between the U.S. and Mexico.

    The Teamsters Union on Wednesday asked the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals to stop the program, which could go into effect as early as Saturday.

    The union argues that the administration plan, which would let as many as 100 registered Mexican trucks deliver their cargo anywhere in the country for the next year as part of a "demonstration program," would endanger public highways because safety issues have not been resolved.

    But in its filing Thursday, government lawyers said the trucks enrolled in the program meet U.S. trucking regulations and the program is a necessary part of the North American Free Trade Agreement.

    "Participating Mexican carriers must comply with all legal requirements governing operations of domestically owned carriers, and in some cases stricter requirements," wrote Assistant Attorney


    Wow, all this fuss over 100 truckers who will be held to a higher standard than our own drivers.
    Just let the trial program do its thing. Its only 100 drivers. If those 100 drivers and their trucks have a worse inspection rating, fail more drug tests, and cause more accidents in the next year than our own drivers, I will jump on the negativity bandwagon. Until then, its just a lot of crap about nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
    Quote Originally Posted by Smokeeater
    Looks like all the President is worried about is strained diplomatic relations. He will have to come with a better arguement than that!!!


    Bush Administration Seeks Appeals Court Ruling Allowing Mexican Cargo Trucks in Country
    Thursday , August 30, 2007




    SAN FRANCISCO —

    The Bush administration urged a federal appeals court Thursday to let Mexican cargo trucks cross the border and freely travel anywhere in the country, arguing that to do otherwise could strain diplomatic relations between the U.S. and Mexico.

    The Teamsters Union on Wednesday asked the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals to stop the program, which could go into effect as early as Saturday.

    The union argues that the administration plan, which would let as many as 100 registered Mexican trucks deliver their cargo anywhere in the country for the next year as part of a "demonstration program," would endanger public highways because safety issues have not been resolved.

    But in its filing Thursday, government lawyers said the trucks enrolled in the program meet U.S. trucking regulations and the program is a necessary part of the North American Free Trade Agreement.

    "Participating Mexican carriers must comply with all legal requirements governing operations of domestically owned carriers, and in some cases stricter requirements," wrote Assistant Attorney


    Wow, all this fuss over 100 truckers who will be held to a higher standard than our own drivers.
    Just let the trial program do its thing. Its only 100 drivers. If those 100 drivers and their trucks have a worse inspection rating, fail more drug tests, and cause more accidents in the next year than our own drivers, I will jump on the negativity bandwagon. Until then, its just a lot of crap about nothing.
    I know this article says differently blacksheep, but it is my understanding it is 100 COMPANIES not 100 DRIVERS. So that in itself is a big difference to me. Just looks to me like it is too late to close the barn door once the horses are out. Oh well to each his own. You go ahead a stay positive blacksheep. You have more confidence and faith and our Federal trial programs than I do . From personal experience they have left a bad taste in my mouth.

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    Yes its one hundred companies not 100 trucks and its just a "pilot program" more Bush speak, once entrenched its going to be hard to dig them out no matter how many rules they violate, Bush knows this, I think this guy knows he is going down as the worst president in history so just wants to create as much havoc as possible and let everyone else clean up the pieces of his administrations mess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
    Quote Originally Posted by Smokeeater
    Looks like all the President is worried about is strained diplomatic relations. He will have to come with a better arguement than that!!!


    Bush Administration Seeks Appeals Court Ruling Allowing Mexican Cargo Trucks in Country
    Thursday , August 30, 2007




    SAN FRANCISCO —

    The Bush administration urged a federal appeals court Thursday to let Mexican cargo trucks cross the border and freely travel anywhere in the country, arguing that to do otherwise could strain diplomatic relations between the U.S. and Mexico.

    The Teamsters Union on Wednesday asked the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals to stop the program, which could go into effect as early as Saturday.

    The union argues that the administration plan, which would let as many as 100 registered Mexican trucks deliver their cargo anywhere in the country for the next year as part of a "demonstration program," would endanger public highways because safety issues have not been resolved.

    But in its filing Thursday, government lawyers said the trucks enrolled in the program meet U.S. trucking regulations and the program is a necessary part of the North American Free Trade Agreement.

    "Participating Mexican carriers must comply with all legal requirements governing operations of domestically owned carriers, and in some cases stricter requirements," wrote Assistant Attorney


    Wow, all this fuss over 100 truckers who will be held to a higher standard than our own drivers.
    Just let the trial program do its thing. Its only 100 drivers. If those 100 drivers and their trucks have a worse inspection rating, fail more drug tests, and cause more accidents in the next year than our own drivers, I will jump on the negativity bandwagon. Until then, its just a lot of crap about nothing.

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    It's 100 companies with no restriction on the amount of actual trucks. It's sad how much apathy is shown when more and more jobs are given away to other countries. All so people can buy cheap crap at Walmart.
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    Well sadly until guys like sheepdancer change their opinions they are going to run this down out throats. It boggles my mind that no one sees any problem with this program. There are too many unanswered questions. Unbelievable !!! A lot of crap about nothing indeed!!!

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    gee, they want to go back to the old 10/8 and let 100 mexican companies run america....glad I'm getting out of the truck in 3 1/2 years......Within 5 years there won't be any drivers making money, because our goverment wants to worry about every other countries problems....heres a thought....let's take care of our own first and to hell with everyone else. I feel sorry for this country.....we have to watch what we say, do or how we act so we don't offend anyone and now they are driving another nail into the American workers coffin. Grow a backbone (again) and close the borders for a few years untill we have things back under control within our own country and if little johnny failed his spelling test.....don't give him an A....give him the F he deserves for not studying.

    WAKE UP AMERICA


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom433a

    WAKE UP AMERICA
    They're too busy buying their cheap crap from Walmart. As long as this country insists on cheap foreign made products, more jobs are getting shipped overseas. There used to be a day when quality meant something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greg3564
    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom433a

    WAKE UP AMERICA
    They're too busy buying their cheap crap from Walmart. As long as this country insists on cheap foreign made products, more jobs are getting shipped overseas. There used to be a day when quality meant something.
    Well, quality still means something. At least to me. I don't shop at Walmart.
    Why? Because everything is Chinese made. Cheap? Not really. When you buy a pair of shoes and save $10, but that shoe lasts a couple months at best, to me, is expensive. Vote with your greenbacks, and take them someplace else!
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    Now, I would agree that Walmart has cheap clothes. But I still buy a lot of nice things at walmart. Ive special ordered really nice guns from Wal-mart. For fishing things, wal-mart cant be beat. Toys for my kids. Their Big Tvs arent bad. Hell, I even special ordered my digital camera from walmart, the Canon 5D....There are not too many better prosumer digital SLRs then that and I found it there about 600 bucks cheaper than anywhere else. Walmart has its place....just not for clothes.

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    Walmart is no different than any other business out there. They have a lot of Chinese products because they like everyone else only has access to Chinese products. DoI buy American when I can? Sure.. Am I going to run all over the country trying to find some specialty shop that makes custom American made "___________"? Not at $3.00 a Gallon for Gas. I have bought many things American made that were just if not more junky than foreign made stuff. To knock Walmart for stocking Chinese goods when thats all there is is just more convenient victim hood by the same old people who are victims of everything else.

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    is it true that walmart cancelled their contract with jb

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    Quote Originally Posted by continental
    Quote Originally Posted by greg3564
    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom433a

    WAKE UP AMERICA
    They're too busy buying their cheap crap from Walmart. As long as this country insists on cheap foreign made products, more jobs are getting shipped overseas. There used to be a day when quality meant something.
    Well, quality still means something. At least to me. I don't shop at Walmart.
    Why? Because everything is Chinese made. Cheap? Not really. When you buy a pair of shoes and save $10, but that shoe lasts a couple months at best, to me, is expensive. Vote with your greenbacks, and take them someplace else!
    I buy a pair of $27 steel toed workboots at Wal-MArt every year. I think I get my moneys worth.
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    It simply amazes me the amount of idiots we have in the USA. After reading thru the post i can not beleieve the attitude of some of the drivers. Gee if it is gonna happen oh well.
    To those of you with this attitude you are a disease to the PRIDE of American workers. Do you not care about our fair market value? does it not bother you that this is an assault on how you support your family?
    Your a bunch of gutless turds!

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    Quote Originally Posted by double trouble
    It simply amazes me the amount of idiots we have in the USA. After reading thru the post i can not beleieve the attitude of some of the drivers. Gee if it is gonna happen oh well.
    To those of you with this attitude you are a disease to the PRIDE of American workers. Do you not care about our fair market value? does it not bother you that this is an assault on how you support your family?
    Your a bunch of gutless turds!
    Spoken like a true idiot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdad7
    is it true that walmart cancelled their contract with jb
    No, thats kind of like a CB rumor thats going around. You know how people can exagerate. Here is the story. Walmart is in the middle of "restructuring" how they are running their freight. We have many walmart dedicated accounts we run. One of them was the wal-mart Centerpoint run. Because of that restructuring at walmart, we no longer run that freight under the Centerpoint run. Its not like we lost the freight. The same freight is now just being hauled by our OTR division. Which is great for our OTR drivers....however, bad for the drivers who were running the centerpoint account. They will now have to run OTR or some other dedicated account.

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    thanks i heard it from one of the centerpoint drivers that showed up at our account ....i was just a wondering

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fozzy
    Quote Originally Posted by double trouble
    It simply amazes me the amount of idiots we have in the USA. After reading thru the post i can not beleieve the attitude of some of the drivers. Gee if it is gonna happen oh well.
    To those of you with this attitude you are a disease to the PRIDE of American workers. Do you not care about our fair market value? does it not bother you that this is an assault on how you support your family?
    Your a bunch of gutless turds!
    Spoken like a true idiot...
    You can't refute my statement so that is all you say? Why don't you take down those American symbols with your post. You are a disgrace to fighting Foreign and domestic invaders. Time for you and your croonies to put your head back under the sand.

    P.S. If you can't refute what good can come out of this Mexican truck invasion then don't reply Genius.

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    Look, all we are saying is that its a trial program with very few trucks coming over here. Ive seen so many borderline paranoid delusional posts about this and so much missinformation spread about this subject it has become very funny.
    Like i said, this is a trail program. If it turns out to be a bad deal over the next year, I will jump on the negativity bandwagon. I just remember the same things being said when we started allowing Canadian truckers do the same thing. The negative people were wrong. I also remember the same things being said when mexican trucks were allowed to drive 20 miles into this country.....The negative people were wrong then too. None of those terrible things predicted happened.
    I just wont let myself fall for the "Teamsters Propaganda" They are a joke. Like someone else mentioned, I remember the teamsters having a fit when people started drug testing truck drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by double trouble
    Quote Originally Posted by Fozzy
    Quote Originally Posted by double trouble
    It simply amazes me the amount of idiots we have in the USA. After reading thru the post i can not beleieve the attitude of some of the drivers. Gee if it is gonna happen oh well.
    To those of you with this attitude you are a disease to the PRIDE of American workers. Do you not care about our fair market value? does it not bother you that this is an assault on how you support your family?
    Your a bunch of gutless turds!
    Spoken like a true idiot...
    You can't refute my statement so that is all you say? Why don't you take down those American symbols with your post. You are a disgrace to fighting Foreign and domestic invaders. Time for you and your croonies to put your head back under the sand.

    P.S. If you can't refute what good can come out of this Mexican truck invasion then don't reply Genius.
    Good coming out of Mexican Truck Invasion....ok....how about the fact that these 100 companies are being given free run into American markets....how many AMERICAN drivers are going to start loosing miles=money to support their families? Add on top of American drivers loosing money the fact that MANY illegals are ALREADY on the welfare system.
    Maybe we should all just stand on the side of the road at Lowe's or Home Depot and hope for a day job like the illegals do here in the southwest. Unless you are from this area, you don't understand what a royal PITA (Pain In The *****) it is having to deal with the "invasion". We get flyers from my kids' school that has info on one 1 side in english and the other is in spanish, this is an english speaking country....we didn't have this crap going on THIS bad when I was growing up. When I make deliveries below the Phoenix /L.A. line.....I'm the only one speaking english as a "NATIVE" language already.


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