Have you heard about this crap yet?

[just_froggy]

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/...37/detail.html

I should note that is in Pennsylvania. :P

A state senator is announcing his plan to make the turnpike safer for drivers.

Sen. Stewart Greenleaf wants different laws for truck drivers on the turnpike. He wants truck drivers to be limited to the right lane, staying 5 mph under the speed limit.

Greenleaf said the plan is designed to keep those in smaller passenger cars safe while sharing the road with the 26,000-pound trucks.

Some truck drivers said slowing down makes sense as long as everyone else has to slow down, too.

"That would not be good," said driver Roy Sluk, of Rostraver. "You need to have everything the same. You can't have the four-wheelers going faster than you, because (that's) creating more people passing, and that's bad."

"Maybe in the cities it might be a good thing, but here on the open road, I don't really see the benefit of it," said driver Bill Thomburg, of Cleveland. "I really don't."

Thomburg calls the right-lane-only proposal "ridiculous."

"It's just going to cause more traffic problems, from what I see," said Thomburg. "If you have a big load or a wide load going down the road at 30 mph and everyone backed up behind him, I can just see it causing more problems."

A Senate transportation committee is reviewing the bill, but there is no word as to when they might take a vote on it.

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The 60 MPH rule is one thing, even though it sucks, but restricting trucks to the right lane, no matter what? It's stupid. It makes no sense.

[coastie]

Having Truck restricted to the 2 right lanes bad enough. Traffic through Charlotte, NC use not be as bad as it is now. But once they adopted the right 2 lane restrictions on Trucks it went from bad to a night mare.

People are forgetting Common sense in order to attack the people who delievery their foods and other goods.

[Jackrabbit379]

Same way out in L.A. Just stupid, I think.

Ft Worth/Dallas is bad enough as it is, but it would be a circus if trucks had to use their own lanes.

[just_froggy]

I'll laugh if this passes. The Pa Turnpike is one of the most expensive roads in the country, just think of how much their revenue will go down. I don't care if it takes me longer, I will take alternative routes, and I am sure that I am not alone in that opinion. Once again government is finger pointing at truck drivers for all the problems on the road.

[Rawlco]

That plan is going to get someone killed. The on-ramps on the PA turnpike aren't even long enough for a full tractor trailer, say nothing of enough room to get up to speed and merge for even a sports car. I find myself constantly merging left to let the traffic on that is stopped at the end of the on-ramps.

I especialy won't pay $90 some dollars to run the turnpike AND go 5 mph slower, that's crazy.

People are forgetting Common sense in order to attack the people who delievery their foods and other goods.

That's because Americans are spoiled as consumers!

We (truck drivers) should all get together and stop every truck for one week and that would fix it!!!

Like that'll ever happen...

[just_froggy]

I think once they kick this law in (if it passes) there will such a reduction in the amount of truck traffic on the road that they will realize it is stupid and solves nothing. With as many trucks on tp each day, and the price to run from one side of the state to the other, do these pa lawmakers have any idea how much money they stand to loose?

i have one question. Why did you provide a link to the article but then type it verbatim in the message as well?? ok, two questions. why when something like this is in the news do people like prodigy immediatly go to, "let's shut down for a week and then see what happens, they will wake up then!!" here is what will happen, no one will shut down, why?? because i need the income, hate to be the party crasher, but i and many other guys got famillies to feed. and when all of th company drivers boycot, strike, whatever you want to call it...they will prompltly be replaced and as i lik to say it "open to the job market".

i have one question. Why did you provide a link to the article but then type it verbatim in the message as well??

Because maybe he wants to summarize what the link he posted is about. I think it's cool. Give me the abridged version, driver.

why when something like this is in the news do people like prodigy immediatly go to, "let's shut down for a week and then see what happens, they will wake up then!!"

I guess you missed the sarcasm in my post... the six = and

Like that'll ever happen

Maybe I need to learn to pour on the sarcasm a lil thicker? Maybe rev vassago can help with that one...

here is what will happen, no one will shut down

No! Really? Are you a driver or what? Do you ever listen your CB? Do you own a CB? If so, havent you ever heard that tired old argument about "how us drivers never stick together - we should strike" yadda yadda yadda.

because i need the income, hate to be the party crasher, but i and many other guys got famillies to feed. and when all of th company drivers boycot, strike, whatever you want to call it...they will prompltly be replaced and as i lik to say it "open to the job market".

I'm guessing you've never had a union job, huh? If you did have one and there was a labor dispute and the union you were a member of called for a strike, you'd probably cross the picket line, huh? You know what... I wont criticize you for that. Most of us know that unions are just as corrupt as the companies that they're "organizing" Unions are crap and it's just a matter of time before the teamsters bust and then all the lil buster brown drivers are going to have to actually work for a living. Like the rest of us.

[Jimbpard]

I'll laugh if this passes. The Pa Turnpike is one of the most expensive roads in the country, just think of how much their revenue will go down. I don't care if it takes me longer, I will take alternative routes, and I am sure that I am not alone in that opinion.

Well your alone if you want me to be your partner...What are your alternate roads across the state from Pittsburgh to Philly?
What are you gonna do, take Rt.30 (which has parts that prohibits Hazmat loads), Rt.22, or go south into maryland onto I-68, then have to come north again? You'd be burning more fuel & time than it'd be worth, but hey, if you have an agenda, have fun.

[Jack_07]

Does that mean that after it passes I can run 20 mph in the right lane all the way accross ? Cause this is what someones gonna do just to slow the trucks down

[Fredog]

Does that mean that after it passes I can run 20 mph in the right lane all the way accross ? Cause this is what someones gonna do just to slow the trucks down

Did anyone notice that this idiot doesnt even know how much trucks weigh? mine weighs more than 26,000 when it's empty. it's obvious he didnt do any homework, he just hates trucks,

[golfhobo]

Does that mean that after it passes I can run 20 mph in the right lane all the way accross ? Cause this is what someones gonna do just to slow the trucks down

And when he does, I hope a J.B. Hunt driver decides "ticket be danged" I'm gonna try to PASS him!!

This is ONE time that I'll kick in to help Hunt pay for his crime!!

[looker]

hate the 76 in pa and wont use it

[Double R]

That plan is going to get someone killed. The on-ramps on the PA turnpike aren't even long enough for a full tractor trailer, say nothing of enough room to get up to speed and merge for even a sports car. I find myself constantly merging left to let the traffic on that is stopped at the end of the on-ramps.

I especialy won't pay $90 some dollars to run the turnpike AND go 5 mph slower, that's crazy.

I think you are confusing I70 with the PA Pike. The Pike has the longest on and off ramps in the state.( Limited access, with 1,200-foot-long entrance and exit ramps to provide plenty of distance for accelerating and decelerating.) That is the way it was designed, so you can build up speed or slow down without distrubting traffic.
Now, I70 from New Stanton to the WV line, LEFT LANE ALL THE WAY!

[Truckfam]

This is an extremely bad idea, especially with the new law PA recently passed. The new law basically states that if you are coming up to an on ramp where you see people coming down the on ramp, you have to move over to the left hand lane as long as there are no other cars beside you.

In this scenrio, the truck driver would get nailed either way, because there would be no way the driver could stay legal.

No cars around the truck. The truck is coming up to an on ramp where there are cars going on the trunpike. There is a cop near the on ramp. The cop could give the trucker a ticket if the trucker no matter which lane the trucker decides to go in. He he disobeys the move over law, he gets a ticket for obeying the law to stay in the right hand lane. If he disobeys staying in the right hand lane, he gets a ticket for not moving over for the people coming off of the on ramp.

I really could see some traffic lawyers having a feild day with this. This senator better think long and hard about what he is doing, and how it relates to the other PA traffic laws.

5 miles under current speed limit is stupid. It will cause more accidents than prevent them. I did the speed limit on the PA turn pike, and I got passed like I was sitting still.

[GMAN]

It is very easy to solve this problem. Stay off the PA turnpike. I traveled it a few months ago due to a snow storm. It cost more than $20 for only a few miles. That was the first time I have been on it in years. That was enough for me. There is always an alternate route you can use rather than taking a toll road.

[trux]

I was researching "speed differential" the other day and came across these articles:

http://www.hwysafety.com/hwy_montana_2001.htm

http://www.nj.npri.org/nj99/03/fedagency.htm

Basically, when a government official wants laws to the god of "highway safety", safety actually has nothing to do with it and a lot more of us will die.

And here's a realistic view of setting speed limits:

http://www.motorists.org/speedlimits/

[chapchap70]

trux wrote:

I was researching "speed differential" the other day and came across these articles:

http://www.hwysafety.com/hwy_montana_2001.htm

http://www.nj.npri.org/nj99/03/fedagency.htm

Basically, when a government official wants laws to the god of "highway safety", safety actually has nothing to do with it and a lot more of us will die.

And here's a realistic view of setting speed limits:

http://www.motorists.org/speedlimits/

Most of the articles make sense with the main exception of increasing posted speed limits does not increase the average speed of traffic on that road. This would mean that drivers that fully or somewhat obey the arbitrarily low speed limits would not drive faster when the speed limit burden is reduced or eliminated?

[yoopr]

Some idiot from CA must have moved to PA