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Thread: Is There a Mexican Customs Inland Port in Kansas City Now?

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    Default Is There a Mexican Customs Inland Port in Kansas City Now?

    I have a question. Fozzy on another thread seems to insist that there is a Port that very little changes will occur. Is the port in Kansas a United States Customs Port or a Mexican Customs Port at this time?


    http://www.nascocorridor.com/naipn/p..._projects.html

    Mexican Customs in KC

    Kansas City SmartPort’s involvement with trade missions to and from Mexico has brought about historic progress.

    The biggest success from KC SmartPort’s endeavors with Mexico is the project between the U.S. and Mexican governments to place a Mexican customs office in Kansas City. This will be the first such office located anywhere in the United States. The pilot project will allow freight moving southbound to Mexico to clear in Kansas City, seal the shipment on the truck, and enable border crossings to become seamless.

    Fozzy has said that I need tinfoil and I would appreciate very much if you would go into this site and look at the maps and the area and tell me if this port is already there. According to the official website it will be the first such office.

    Please only comment after reading the site.

    Thank You!

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    no and this thread is getting moved

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    Okay!

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    I think this is about 4-5 years out. Talk is this would go in at richard gabbour off of 71 and 150 out in grandview. Also have heard that Csx railroad bought the track rights all the way from kc to the mexican port which is also going to link at richard gabbour. alot of rumor's at this point. my 2cents

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    EVERYONE PANIC!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griff
    I think this is about 4-5 years out. Talk is this would go in at richard gabbour off of 71 and 150 out in grandview. Also have heard that Csx railroad bought the track rights all the way from kc to the mexican port which is also going to link at richard gabbour. alot of rumor's at this point. my 2cents
    Have you been into the website? My in laws live in Independence. I wish it was just rumors but unfortunately it is not. Check the site out it will tell you were they are working I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fozzy
    EVERYONE PANIC!!!!!
    No what you really want is everyone to support NAFTA and this Hemispheric Integration! You mock so people will not look into things. But people are smarter than you give them credit for. And they can make up their own minds whether they like your idea of progress.

    And informed people can make up their minds whether they think this is good for the United States of America, and the trucking industry. And once again yes it is about us and our Country!

    Uniformed people that can not hold an intelligent discussion or the shrills will cry about tinfoil in an attempt to deter people.

    You know people can go on the government websites that I have provided or even do their own research and make up their own minds. If they like it like you fine but be honest.

    According to you!

    1. Hemispheric Integration is good.
    2. A Mexico Inland Port is good.
    3. Allowing Truckers into America is good.
    4. Giving Tax payers money to Mexico is good.
    5. NAFTA is good.

    I disagree with you! And I will keep saying it is bad for the United States of America no matter how much you mock me! So stop spinning.

    GFIW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goin Fer It
    Quote Originally Posted by Fozzy
    EVERYONE PANIC!!!!!
    No what you really want is everyone to support NAFTA and this Hemispheric Integration! You mock so people will not look into things. But people are smarter than you give them credit for. And they can make up their own minds whether they like your idea of progress.

    And informed people can make up their minds whether they think this is good for the United States of America, and the trucking industry. And once again yes it is about us and our Country!

    Uniformed people that can not hold an intelligent discussion or the shrills will cry about tinfoil in an attempt to deter people.

    You know people can go on the government websites that I have provided or even do their own research and make up their own minds. If they like it like you fine but be honest.

    According to you!

    1. Hemispheric Integration is good.
    2. A Mexico Inland Port is good.
    3. Allowing Truckers into America is good.
    4. Giving Tax payers money to Mexico is good.
    5. NAFTA is good.

    I disagree with you! And I will keep saying it is bad for the United States of America no matter how much you mock me! So stop spinning.

    GFIW
    If you look at the map (1447 Liberty, KC,MO.) It is just north of the American Royal in what is called the west bottoms.

    There is an article in Landline ( http://www.landlinemag.com/Archives/...mart_port.html ) that discusses the KC area and smart ports.

    At the present time KC Smart-port will be an Southbound only. It wil Not handle freight coming into the USA. I have no doubt in time this will change.

    As far as the Grandview KCS rail lines (an intermodal) it is a move from the old outdated yards (a real pain in the rear) located in the bottoms below the old Wards warehouse.

    Plus, BNSF railroad is planning on building intermodal center in Gardner, KS.


    As to your concerns.

    Like it or not the USA has changed from a regional market to a global market. And with that we have to change. People won't pay to have a USA made only product. All you have to do is look at the present auto industry. USA plants are closing or cutting back labor while the foreign companies are increasing production. Consumers want two things price and quality.

    What I find kinda funny is no one complains about freight leaving the USA going to other countries. Why should we not expect the reverse?

    kc0iv

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    Quote Originally Posted by kc0iv
    Quote Originally Posted by Goin Fer It
    Quote Originally Posted by Fozzy
    EVERYONE PANIC!!!!!
    No what you really want is everyone to support NAFTA and this Hemispheric Integration! You mock so people will not look into things. But people are smarter than you give them credit for. And they can make up their own minds whether they like your idea of progress.

    And informed people can make up their minds whether they think this is good for the United States of America, and the trucking industry. And once again yes it is about us and our Country!

    Uniformed people that can not hold an intelligent discussion or the shrills will cry about tinfoil in an attempt to deter people.

    You know people can go on the government websites that I have provided or even do their own research and make up their own minds. If they like it like you fine but be honest.

    According to you!

    1. Hemispheric Integration is good.
    2. A Mexico Inland Port is good.
    3. Allowing Truckers into America is good.
    4. Giving Tax payers money to Mexico is good.
    5. NAFTA is good.

    I disagree with you! And I will keep saying it is bad for the United States of America no matter how much you mock me! So stop spinning.

    GFIW
    If you look at the map (1447 Liberty, KC,MO.) It is just north of the American Royal in what is called the west bottoms.

    There is an article in Landline ( http://www.landlinemag.com/Archives/...mart_port.html ) that discusses the KC area and smart ports.

    At the present time KC Smart-port will be an Southbound only. It wil Not handle freight coming into the USA. I have no doubt in time this will change.
    That's what doesn't seem to be clear to Going for It. She was ranting in another thread about "foreign citizens checking our freight coming into the US".


    As far as the Grandview KCS rail lines (an intermodal) it is a move from the old outdated yards (a real pain in the rear) located in the bottoms below the old Wards warehouse.

    Plus, BNSF railroad is planning on building intermodal center in Gardner, KS.
    UP is going to build new railyard near Sunland Park, NM. Our governor (Bill Richardson) pushed hard for it but is downplaying the stipulation from Union Pacific that the state should foot the $5 million dollar bill to build access roads from the Pete Domenici Highway that connects I-10 with the Santa Teresa Port of Entry and removing the gross reciepts tax on diesel fuel purchased in NM. So southern NM gained 285 jobs at a lost of millions in tax revenue and road construction costs. But that's an issue for another thread, lol.

    As to your concerns.

    Like it or not the USA has changed from a regional market to a global market. And with that we have to change. People won't pay to have a USA made only product. All you have to do is look at the present auto industry. USA plants are closing or cutting back labor while the foreign companies are increasing production. Consumers want two things price and quality.

    What I find kinda funny is no one complains about freight leaving the USA going to other countries. Why should we not expect the reverse?

    kc0iv
    Some people are stuck living in the 1950's on this issue.

    Lets not forget the thousands of container trailers that never actually STOP here and are just passing through from the Atlantic to the Pacific.
    You can take the driver out of the truck but you cant take the truck out of the driver.

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    Even if there were, what would be the problem. We have American customs inland ports in Canada.
    You have the right to be wrong. If you do not have the correct opinion, it will be provided for you.

    I could care less what the United States OFFICIAL stance on global warming is.

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    [quote="kc0iv"]
    Quote Originally Posted by Goin Fer It
    Quote Originally Posted by Fozzy
    EVERYONE PANIC!!!!!

    Plus, BNSF railroad is planning on building intermodal center in Gardner, KS.


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    The bnsf moving can't happen fast enuff that place is horrible I usually pull about 10-15 loads in there a day

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    There is so much bad information out there on this subject that it is hardly worth discussing. A lot of drivers end up looking like fools when they talk about it. Global warming is about the only subject with more misinformation than this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karnajj
    There is so much bad information out there on this subject that it is hardly worth discussing. A lot of drivers end up looking like fools when they talk about it. Global warming is about the only subject with more misinformation than this.
    Isn't that the truth-well said

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    Quote Originally Posted by kc0iv
    As to your concerns.

    Like it or not the USA has changed from a regional market to a global market. And with that we have to change. People won't pay to have a USA made only product. All you have to do is look at the present auto industry. USA plants are closing or cutting back labor while the foreign companies are increasing production. Consumers want two things price and quality.

    What I find kinda funny is no one complains about freight leaving the USA going to other countries. Why should we not expect the reverse?

    kc0iv
    At first it will be only outbound but as you stated NO DOUBT will be inbound soon. I know they are working on the one Port in Mexico which the good ole United States taxpayers are footing 285 million dollars for. It is suppose to be done in 2010.
    Veracruz

    Veracruz is located in the state with the same name on the Gulf of Mexico and is the largest commercial port in the country

    Veracruz is the gateway for the automobile industry. In 2004, the port handled 70% of the total 687,000 automobiles that shipped in and out of the country.

    The Integral Port Administration (API) of Veracruz unveiled in 2003 a US$295 million development plan to enlarge the port's infrastructure and expand operations by 2010.

    But I think the article link you posted was referring to with the trains is this port.

    Lazaro Cardenas

    Located in the State of Michoacan, Lazaro Cardenas Terminal Portuaria de Contenedores (LCT) is a highly industrial deepwater port. The terminal is significantly closer to Mexico City than Manzanillo, the only other Mexican Pacific port serving this important market. LCT is a single-berth terminal with on-dock rail facilities and the development rights to an 85-hectare deepwater, green field site.

    The port has an important connection with the most important Multimodal Corridor in the Country. This corridor goes across Mexico by the Middle and from San Luis Potosi join to nasco Corridor through NAFTA Highway..

    From your article

    Hear that train a’comin’
    Another controversy is brewing over SmartPort’s relationship with Kansas City Southern, a company composed of three railroad companies from the U.S., Mexico and Panama. Together, the group comprises a system of rail tracks that runs from the port of Lazaro Cardenas in Mexico across the U.S. border, through cities along the Gulf Coast, and, of course, into Kansas City.
    One of the goals of the rail line and SmartPort is to import freight from Asian countries to the port in Mexico, then transport it by rail into KC. Kansas City Southern is targeting an old Air Force base 18 miles south of downtown Kansas City, MO, as the site of an intermodal facility that would serve as a shipping hub for the freight coming out of Mexico.
    This move has many people concerned about security.
    C. Doniele Kane, a spokeswoman for Kansas City Southern told “Land Line Now” on XM Satellite Radio that many of the containers coming out of Asia will be screened at point of entry through the Container Security Initiative, a U.S. run pre-screening program for inbound cargo
    She did not indicate how many containers would be screened or what would be done with the rest.

    I believe that the tagging program through SPP that they are working on (the US pre-screening program. I am sure our taxes paid for that one also.

    As far as buying products made in the U.S.A. it has been hard to find such iitems for years now. Most of our manufacturing base has left due to taxes , over regulation. Also the fact that our govenment has given business special incentaves to leave our country.

    So since this has happened and been going on for years I am not complaining about products coming or going but the fact that the Country of Mexico is going to have a Customs Port in the heart of our Country. We have none in Mexico and when we were even a little over that border a few weeks ago with the fence thing they sure spoke out about it.

    I also do not think that giving inbound trucks from Mexico a smart pass is a good idea. Even if the truck driver is honest and would never take a bribe it seems like it would be easy for someone to get a hold of the truck if they really wanted to. Seems like so many people have forgotten 9-11 to quickly.

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    The same bilge can be said about the American trucker.. and we've already had a blond haired blue eyed American use a truck as a bomb and even as a tool to try and destroy a capitol building.. should we ban EVERYONE from driving? As of yet the Mexicans have not blown up anything here.. so using your logic ONLY Mexicans should be allowed to drive here and the American Drivers need to be locked up as possible terrorists...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karnajj
    There is so much bad information out there on this subject that it is hardly worth discussing. A lot of drivers end up looking like fools when they talk about it. Global warming is about the only subject with more misinformation than this.
    Add one more person to the "global warming is a hoax" list? 8)
    You have the right to be wrong. If you do not have the correct opinion, it will be provided for you.

    I could care less what the United States OFFICIAL stance on global warming is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoosierdaddy
    Even if there were, what would be the problem. We have American customs inland ports in Canada.
    I can not find the name of any U.S. customs ports in Canada could you give me the name of the port?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goin Fer It
    Quote Originally Posted by hoosierdaddy
    Even if there were, what would be the problem. We have American customs inland ports in Canada.
    I can not find the name of any U.S. customs ports in Canada could you give me the name of the port?

    Thanks!

    GFIW
    Toronto Pearson International Airport?

    Halifax International Airport?

    Vancouver?
    You have the right to be wrong. If you do not have the correct opinion, it will be provided for you.

    I could care less what the United States OFFICIAL stance on global warming is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoosierdaddy
    Quote Originally Posted by Karnajj
    There is so much bad information out there on this subject that it is hardly worth discussing. A lot of drivers end up looking like fools when they talk about it. Global warming is about the only subject with more misinformation than this.
    Add one more person to the "global warming is a hoax" list? 8)
    If you are asking me if I believe global warming is a hoax, then yes I do. It is much more an anti-American piece of crap more than anything else. But then you are from Canada. Canada hasn't been friendly to the USA for more than a decade now.
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