Possibility of Dirty UA Please READ

[epcenter5hz]

Hello, my issue is that what’s my possibility of a dirty UA… now before I get into it… I’m not here to waist any body’s time… and I’m telling u the 100% truth… I’m just sweating bullets until my results gets back in… and wanted some true feed back on my chances…

Now 1st off… I don’t do any kinds of drugs PERIOD… Not anywhere or any time (IE B days, holidays, super bowls, personal time off, in my car, etc) I totally quit all drug usage 3 years before I got a CDL

The only thing I smoke is Black and milds 100% tipped pipe tobacco cigars… so the story is that I have 2 cars a sports car that I mainly drive, and a small economy car.

Well my girl friend drives my (economy car) sunfire, and I chose to drive it 1 day because it was icy out… so I just got a new job offer and took it… was on my way to do my UA witch I was 100% clean for 5+years straight with out any relapsing…

I was smoking on a Black and mild cigar 100% tobacco… well it was going out and I didn’t have a lighter… so I seen another black and mild cigar, that my girl friend left in the ash tray… so I lit it off of the fire that was left on the 1 I was smoking

u have to pull on it a little to get it to light… from another cherry… and right when it lit, I realized that she rolled all the tobacco out… and stuffed it with marijuana …

so I never completely inhaled it… but just pulled on it to get it to light… and as soon as it light… I blew it all out, and called her to cuss her out…

so I may have maybe inhaled it 1 slightly but hardly any went into my lungs… but i didn't even do this intentally... i swear i didn't know it was bud inside...

so after that I urine 1 hour later and what are my chanced that they can detected 1 barely hit that didn’t get me hi at all… with in 1 hour later … & that only happened that 1 time and had a 5 + year clean system?

[Roadhog]

You know we are Trucker's right? :? ......however
we get lots of Physicals, and know a thing or two.
Almost anything can be determined with
a turn and cough...or the rubber glove.

...although...someone here may have a Degree in Urology
....some I swear in Proctology....I personally have a BS degree.

The THC can be absorbed by the membrane in your mouth as easily as through the lung tissue.
Toxins are stored in the fat cells of the body.
In order to release these toxins into the bloodstream, the fat cells must be burned.
In the blood the toxins are filtered out by the kidneys and sent to the bladder.

In your case...since you had your urine capture within 1 hour of this incident...
I think it is unlikely the toxins had a chance to be absorbed enough to be detectable.
I don't know if the amount is necessarily what is saving you,
but more so the amount of time between the incident and your drug screen test.

The veiws of this analysis is not necessarily the views of CAD
or shall they be held responsible for the blabberings of a Loony Toon character.

regards....Roadhog, Road Scholar, BS;BO;PHFFT


( Canineous Stupidus Geniusi )

[epcenter5hz]

[quote="roadhog"]You know we are Trucker's right? :? ......however
we get lots of Physicals, and know a thing or two.
Almost anything can be determined with
a turn and cough...or the rubber glove.


I don't know if the amount is necessarily what is saving you,
but more so the amount of time between the incident and your drug screen test.

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thanks for the info... I was thinking the same thing... so I just went and wanted to take the UA asap... but it was a waiting period of people in front of me...

[NevadaJim]

I wouldn't sweat it. Even if you inhaled 1 puff there wouldn't be enough to trigger a positive result. I'd be just as concerned with getting pulled over and a cop finding it. Easy way to end a career.

[yoopr]

Sounds like another BJ Clinton Tale-I smoked but didn't inhale :P

[Uturn2001]

Assuming the story is true, this person is playing with fire by having people in close proximity to him that use drugs.

I know the cops are not going to care one bit who the drugs belong to if he gets pulled over and they find it in his car. They will be his and he will be arrested and charged with possesion at the very least.

[Roadhog]

Reminds me of a time I was driving slip-seat.

I was driving South toward Charlotte, and I reached up in one of those cubby holes above the visor...to grab my sunglasses, and pulled a joint out with my glasses. Man was I pissed off. I tossed it out the window, and called my Boss right away. I wanted whomever this belonged to fired.

[Rev.Vassago]

It amazes me the lengths people go to come up with these "honest, I've never smoked pot" stories.

PLAIN AND SIMPLE - if you fail, it is your own fault. The CDL license you hold puts you to a higher standard than the general motoring public. You are expected to act accordingly. THIS INCLUDES the people that you associate yourself with.

I seriously doubt the truth of your story, because the amount of pot that it would take to full a cigar is not economically viable, nor would it hold together very well after being disassembled to get the tobacco out.

[Roadhog]

Rev...I gotta say...your new Avatar is teu guuud !

Is it merely by accident you catpure your personna so perfectly?
Truely...Genius!!!!! :P

[Rev.Vassago]

[shyykatt]

Its always someone elses fault, isnt it? :P

[Useless]

[quote="Rev.Vassago"]It amazes me the lengths people go to come up with these "honest, I've never smoked pot" stories.

PLAIN AND SIMPLE - if you fail, it is your own fault. The CDL license you hold puts you to a higher standard than the general motoring public. You are expected to act accordingly. THIS INCLUDES the people that you associate yourself with.

I seriously doubt the truth of your story, because the amount of pot that it would take to full a cigar is not economically viable, nor would it hold together very well after being disassembled to get the tobacco out.[quote]

On that one point, Rev., I'd have to disagree.

I know a number of young people who smoke "Blunts". Of those who do, they seem rather partial to "Swisher Sweets", or cigars that have a fruit flavor, like orange, peach, raspberry, or grape,

I'm willing to allow some benefit for doubt here for two reasons.

1.) I had a slightly similar incident happen to me about 4 years ago. A friend of mine had a Swisher Sweet burning, and offered me a puff. Now, I started smoking cigars when I was about 61/2 years old. No sneaking around behind my parents back, I smoked it with my father.....long story there, but not so relevant here.....

Anyway, I eventually gave them up because they gave my pretty bad acid reflux. (......fast foreword to several years back...) In any event, I was at a friend's house, whom I hadn't seen in a while. He was getting ready to fire up a Blunt, and asked me if I wanted to "do the honors"..... I guess that should have been a hint, but he knew that I didn't smoke, I hadn't puffed a cigar in a long time, and didn't think twice about it. I took a couple of puffs...... and then started coughing my fool head off. He thought it was funny as hell.....I angrily told him what it could wind up costing me if I ever ran a hot piss test.....No fist fight, no flunked U/A, or anything like that, but I did tell him that I couldn't hang with him or his buddies anymore.

That's when I learned about making Blunts" using cigars. I'd been out of the "weed loop" for many years, (almost 20 years at the time this happened!!) and had never even entertained the notion of mixing pot with cigar tobacco. So, there are times when an unusual situation will present itself.

Did I inhale??? No, I choked on the damned thing!!

There is also another reason why I'm willing to extend some benefit of doubt.

2.) I've read these "False positive, I didn't inhale, it was because of some medication, etc, etc, etc. threads in the past. [For example, our old friend "Allen VW"] They quickly transition from the "False Positive" story line, to the point of defending their use of it, or minimizing the effects of it, and other such nonsense.

Then, they begin their campaigns of "Weed isn't as dangerous as alcohol,....U/A and drug testing violate my civil rights....cocaine or meth stays in your system for three days, but pot stays in your system for 2 whole months,...what I did a month ago doesn't matter, as long as I'm not high while I'm driving, and other nonsensical arguments........

So far, I have not seen that happen here.

Now, I wasn't there, and this guy could be feeding us a line of total B.S. I'm not saying he's being truthful, but based upon my own experience that I have related here, I will allow for some benefit of doubt.

[Sonny Pruitt]

sorry
rev is right

[Rookie McRookerson]

Don't sweat it. It takes several hours to a day to get into your system enough to be detectable in your urine.

Many years ago, I was a corrections officer. I walked into a room one time where 4 inmates were smoking pot. I had them red handed. In fact I had to walk through a cloud of marijuana smoke to identify them. I had them U/A'd immediately. They all came back clean. Imagine my surprise! The inmates laughed like crazy when their tests came back clean. I felt like a moron! That's when I learned to let it sit in their system until the next day, then test them.

You have no worries.

BOL

[Rev.Vassago]

2.) I've read these "False positive, I didn't inhale, it was because of some medication, etc, etc, etc. threads in the past. [For example, our old friend "Allen VW"] They quickly transition from the "False Positive" story line, to the point of defending their use of it, or minimizing the effects of it, and other such nonsense.

Then, they begin their campaigns of "Weed isn't as dangerous as alcohol,....U/A and drug testing violate my civil rights....cocaine or meth stays in your system for three days, but pot stays in your system for 2 whole months,...what I did a month ago doesn't matter, as long as I'm not high while I'm driving, and other nonsensical arguments........

So far, I have not seen that happen here.

Now, I wasn't there, and this guy could be feeding us a line of total B.S. I'm not saying he's being truthful, but based upon my own experience that I have related here, I will allow for some benefit of doubt.[/color]

Even if the story is true, that doesn't change the fact that he has a RESPONSIBILITY to keep himself drug free; including, but not limited to avoiding others who use drugs.

If his girlfriend really cared about him, she wouldn't use pot, knowing that her boyfriend is in a career that REQUIRES him to be tested.

[Useless]

Even if the story is true, that doesn't change the fact that he has a RESPONSIBILITY to keep himself drug free; including, but not limited to avoiding others who use drugs.

If his girlfriend really cared about him, she wouldn't use pot, knowing that her boyfriend is in a career that REQUIRES him to be tested.

No argument in what you are saying here at all.

The point that I was making had to do with people using cigars as a means by which to smoke weed. As far as the economic viability is concerned, I can't understand anyone paying the ridiculous prices that weed is apparently bringing these days. My days of that go way back to the days of nickle bags, and penny matchboxes.

At first read, I saw some room for an element of plausibility here, but as you pointed out, this was his girlfriend who was involved in this; so, either he does not know nearly enough about his girlfriend, or he needs to choose his girlfriends more carefully.
As you correctly pointed out, if he runs a hot piss test, then all of the other considerations become moot.

[glasman2]

If his girlfriend really cared about him, she wouldn't use pot, knowing that her boyfriend is in a career that REQUIRES him to be tested.

Word!

[Useless]

[quote="glasman2"]

If his girlfriend really cared about him, she wouldn't use pot, knowing that her boyfriend is in a career that REQUIRES him to be tested.

Glasman2:
Word!

Huh??? Ya' lost me there, glasman2!!

[Rev.Vassago]

[quote="Useless"]

If his girlfriend really cared about him, she wouldn't use pot, knowing that her boyfriend is in a career that REQUIRES him to be tested.

Glasman2:
Word!

Huh??? Ya' lost me there, glasman2!!

Glasman was agreeing with me. Word up. :wink:

[Useless]

[quote="Rev.Vassago"]

If his girlfriend really cared about him, she wouldn't use pot, knowing that her boyfriend is in a career that REQUIRES him to be tested.

Glasman2:
Word!

Huh??? Ya' lost me there, glasman2!!

Glasman was agreeing with me. Word up. :wink:

That's one I had not heard before!! :P