Christocrats trying to sneak their BS into schools here.

[Fozzy]

I'am stunned but I find myself in total agreement with Fozzy.

If you want to indoctrinate your kids in a particular religion that's fine..

Just keep it out of PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

Thank You.

Whoa...I take that back...

What's with the christo "CRATS"..

That may give someone the mistaken impression these fanatics are somehow linked to the democratic party.

Most of these people allowing this are southern Oklahoma Democrats (Baptists).

[golfhobo]

If that doesn't work out for you, Sheepdancer, you can always join the Taliban.

They could use a few more "moral enforcers."

What a jerk. You and Rosie must be siblings.

Normally, I wouldn't honor such a stupid post with a reply, but I must ask, did you read the entire thread? Or just home in on this one remark of mine? Either way, you are mistaken and uninformed. Rosie is not one of my favorites, but she is getting good reviews lately for speaking her mind. At least she HAS one!

I'll bet $100 that you didn't even understand my reference to the taliban and it's misogynistic practices.

You probably don't know WHERE Afghanistan IS, or its relation to the War in the Middle East. You're probably just another pathetic example of the decline of education in the Public Schools.

You want to debate ANY of my principles as outlined in this thread? Then PICK one, and lets go at it.

Otherwise, take your single "cheap shot" and go away. Children (like you) should be seen and not heard. (And in some cases.... being SEEN is not such a good idea!)

[golfhobo]

Charasmaticevil said:

we as a culture and as a nation must realize that our children look to us, the parents, the adult figures in their lives, for inspiration, direction, and guidance.

I'm not sure WHY you resurrected this 6 month old thread, but I don't mind continuing one of the FEW intelligent conversations on this board.

I have a sister who is married to a minister (as my father is) and she has "home schooled" both of her chldren. I find both of them a bit strange, and "subsocial." You alluded to this problem. It is a fact.

But, it is the statement that I quoted above that bothers me. In a perfect world, maybe. But, not today! Todays children get their inspiration from the glorification of lifestyles on T.V., their direction from peer pressure, and their guidance from the internet! If YOU can replace all this with personal parental attendance, you are special.

I don't say you shouldn't TRY! But, you must be realistic. In today's world, if you "shelter" them from all of this, you will be creating a maladjusted being.

IMHO, the jury is still "out" on whether my sister was right or wrong. But, I KNOW my niece and nephew, and NEITHER of them are prepared for life as they will FIND it.

I STAND BY my belief that children should attend, and DEAL with, public schools. Religious "understanding" and moral superiority should be taught in the home or in the church.

A bloody nose is a "rite of passage" for a young boy, and a young woman needs to understand the power and limits of her sexuality. Do you understand this?

It was God's PLAN that his son Jesus be subjected to a "normal" upbringing. The fact that he shone above the average child of his age was a testament to his birthright, and a harbinger of things to come. It was also a "reflection" of his homelife.

But, had he been sent to a "Madrassa" as children in the Middle East are today, would he have been noticed as being "special?" I'm not so sure he would have!

In principle, I cannot deny the "safety" of a Christian School, or the "purpose" of home schooling. And I am NOT against a religious upbringing. But, reality forces me to question the Wisdom of such an isolationist belief and action.

Of course, "I" am not the one to decide for YOUR children. That is up to YOU. I can only testify to the fact that a public education gave me knowledge and awareness that I might not have otherwise gained. And a strenth of character that cannot be "taught."

If my words, thoughts or testimony have in any way assisted you, I am redeemed. If not, then I am STILL redeemed, as I believe I have spoken the truth, as I know it.

I wish (because I seldom PRAY) for you the Wisdom of Solomon. Parenting is an awesome responsibility, one that was stolen from me.

Hobo

[hoosierdaddy]

Yes, there IS too much religious proselytizing in our schools and everywhere in Public life. As a secularists I consider religion rather ridiculous and the people who follow it pathetic.

However, I also consider it none of my business what moronic, bizarre belief you feel you need in order to control your conduct.

Just keep it to YOURSELF! I mean it's embarrassing enough that you admit to believing in some fantasy AND YOUR AN ADULT, but to advertise it in public, Huge Crosses on the highway, Jewish caps, etc... I mean come'on, that's like walking around with your zipper down!

Everyone knows Tinker Bell is the ONLY TRUE GOD. Tinker Bell said it, I believe it!

Jeeeez...., wake up people, snap outta it!

Pot. Meet kettle. You tell "pathetic morons" to keep their beliefs to themselves while at the same time, violating your own demand. This can mean one of many things. You are a hypocrite; not very consistent in your "logic"; an idiot; or what the Bible would call you: a fool. Perhaps you're all of the above. Only you really know.

Now, carry on bashing religious people while I sit here and laugh at your idiocy.

[hoosierdaddy]

golfhobo wrote:
If that doesn't work out for you, Sheepdancer, you can always join the Taliban.

golfhobo, with the "logic" you display above, I don't think anyone will "debate" you. It would be an exercise in futility.

[hoosierdaddy]

I'am stunned but I find myself in total agreement with Fozzy.

If you want to indoctrinate your kids in a particular religion that's fine..

Just keep it out of PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

Thank You.

I'm pretty much for keeping it out of public schools. If only much of the other crap would be kept out too. You know...evolutionary theory as being fact, Virginia and her two mommies (one dressing like Santa Claus), and a woman's right to kill a child. Yeah...keep that crap out too. Then we'll all get along.

[Karnajj]

I'am stunned but I find myself in total agreement with Fozzy.

If you want to indoctrinate your kids in a particular religion that's fine..

Just keep it out of PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

Thank You.

I'm pretty much for keeping it out of public schools. If only much of the other crap would be kept out too. You know...evolutionary theory as being fact, Virginia and her two mommies (one dressing like Santa Claus), and a woman's right to kill a child. Yeah...keep that crap out too. Then we'll all get along.

Yeah, all that gay and lesbian bulls**t needs to be removed before anything else.

[Fozzy]

I'am stunned but I find myself in total agreement with Fozzy.

If you want to indoctrinate your kids in a particular religion that's fine..

Just keep it out of PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

Thank You.

I'm pretty much for keeping it out of public schools. If only much of the other crap would be kept out too. You know...evolutionary theory as being fact, Virginia and her two mommies (one dressing like Santa Claus), and a woman's right to kill a child. Yeah...keep that crap out too. Then we'll all get along.

Evolution is taught as a theory.. The fact that there are books on homosexuals who raise children should be less shocking that the lack of books about the heterosexual broodmares and their numerous man studs, they probably need more books like," My mommy's various baby daddies", or even "Whosuredaddy" and the "The Preacher who liked to touch children in the pew"... Abortion is yet another touchy subject for the Christocrat. They are out getting the majority of the abortions, but its some sin if someone else gets one?

[Fozzy]

I'am stunned but I find myself in total agreement with Fozzy.

If you want to indoctrinate your kids in a particular religion that's fine..

Just keep it out of PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

Thank You.

I'm pretty much for keeping it out of public schools. If only much of the other crap would be kept out too. You know...evolutionary theory as being fact, Virginia and her two mommies (one dressing like Santa Claus), and a woman's right to kill a child. Yeah...keep that crap out too. Then we'll all get along.

Yeah, all that gay and lesbian bulls**t needs to be removed before anything else.

Which gay and lesbian bulls**t? Most of the clowns who are complaining about the "gay books" in libraries couldn't read well enough to find them in the libraries in the first place.

[kjax]

Abortion is yet another touchy subject for the Christocrat. They are out getting the majority of the abortions, but its some sin if someone else gets one?

If abstinence and virginity were still held as virtues, abortion wouldn't be such an issue I'd bet. They don't teach abstinence in sex ed, though, do they? Huh....

[Karnajj]

I'am stunned but I find myself in total agreement with Fozzy.

If you want to indoctrinate your kids in a particular religion that's fine..

Just keep it out of PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

Thank You.

I'm pretty much for keeping it out of public schools. If only much of the other crap would be kept out too. You know...evolutionary theory as being fact, Virginia and her two mommies (one dressing like Santa Claus), and a woman's right to kill a child. Yeah...keep that crap out too. Then we'll all get along.

Yeah, all that gay and lesbian bulls**t needs to be removed before anything else.

Which gay and lesbian bulls**t? Most of the clowns who are complaining about the "gay books" in libraries couldn't read well enough to find them in the libraries in the first place.

In my kids school system they have to teach that homosexuality is a perfectly acceptable alternative to heterosexuality. Is that right? Should they even be talking about homosexuality in schools? I don't think so. If Christianity isn't taught in public schools then why should something as offensive as homosexuality?

Eagerly awaiting your insults to my intelligence since that seems to be the only way you know how to argue.

[WildK9]

Eagerly awaiting your insults to my intelligence since that seems to be the only way you know how to argue.

Isn't that the truth!

[Fozzy]

In my kids school system they have to teach that homosexuality is a perfectly acceptable alternative to heterosexuality. Is that right?

Right in what context? To homosexuals, it is an acceptable alternative to heterosexuality. These teachers did not teach anyone to BE a homosexual. Are your children now homosexuals because they attended a class?

Should they even be talking about homosexuality in schools?
I don't think so.

Depends on the course. Talking about things is a pretty good way to learn about things you do not understand. I've been through all types of courses on all sorts of things, It does not mean that you are going to become something just because the topic is discussed. Should they discuss wars? Murders? Child Molesters?

If Christianity isn't taught in public schools then why should something as offensive as homosexuality?

Christianity has its own venue. Most religions have their own venue, you cannot swing a dead cat without hitting a church in this country.. And of course if they were supposedly doing their jobs and if the message was not killed by the messengers and by their own historical hypocrisies, then the Christians wouldn't be in as much trouble as they are.

Eagerly awaiting your insults to my intelligence since that seems to be the only way you know how to argue.

Your posts are examples of your level of intelligence.. No one can post better examples than that...

[Fozzy]

Eagerly awaiting your insults to my intelligence since that seems to be the only way you know how to argue.

Isn't that the truth!

[WildK9]

Eagerly awaiting your insults to my intelligence since that seems to be the only way you know how to argue.

Isn't that the truth!

Precisely!

[Fozzy]

If abstinence and virginity were still held as virtues, abortion wouldn't be such an issue I'd bet. They don't teach abstinence in sex ed, though, do they? Huh....

Sure they do, the problem is that with this country being a "christian nation" they haven't figured out how to keep their legs together long enough to figure that out...