Disucussion on the Big Bang theory, Warning Science Based

[RockyMtnProDriver]

They have theirs, now we have ours.

Questions, comments?

[Windwalker]

They have theirs, now we have ours.

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HUHHH???????

[RockyMtnProDriver]

In physical cosmology, the Big Bang is the scientific theory that the universe emerged from an enormously dense and hot state about 13.7 billion years ago. The Big Bang is a consequence of the observed Hubble's law velocities of distant galaxies that when taken together with the cosmological principle imply that space is expanding according to the Friedmann-Lema?tre model of general relativity. Extrapolated into the past, these observations show that the universe has expanded from a primeval state, in which all the matter and energy in the universe was at an immense temperature and density. Physicists do not widely agree on what happened before this, although general relativity predicts a gravitational singularity (for reporting on some of the more notable speculation on this issue, see cosmogony).

In physical cosmology, the Big Bang is the scientific theory that the universe emerged from an enormously dense and hot state about 13.7 billion years ago. The Big Bang is a consequence of the observed Hubble's law velocities of distant galaxies that when taken together with the cosmological principle imply that space is expanding according to the Friedmann-Lema?tre model of general relativity. Extrapolated into the past, these observations show that the universe has expanded from a primeval state, in which all the matter and energy in the universe was at an immense temperature and density. Physicists do not widely agree on what happened before this, although general relativity predicts a gravitational singularity (for reporting on some of the more notable speculation on this issue, see cosmogony).

Hey RockyMtnProDriver Would you care to put that in english please. :shock:

[RockyMtnProDriver]

Boom.... hot stuff flys everywhere.... things stick together....Wal-Mart runs the world.

Boom.... hot stuff flys everywhere.... things stick together....Wal-Mart runs the world.

Ahhhh now i understand :idea:

[RockyMtnProDriver]

Boom.... hot stuff flys everywhere.... things stick together....Wal-Mart runs the world.

Consider it the Big Bang Theory condensed for CNN reporting.

Film at 11:00.

Melting and sticking I can handle. Walmart ruling the world. We are all doomed.

[RockyMtnProDriver]

Melting and sticking I can handle. Walmart ruling the world. We are all doomed.

But dont forget, the opposite end of the stick is The Big Crunch where all of the matter in the universe falls back into itself.

And if so, then we are about half way between the Big Bang, and the Big Crunch. So dont worry, Wal-Mart only gets to run the show for the next 13 billion years.

I can do that standing on my head.

[littleman2]

So who was the prime mover? To make the bang, I am of the opinion that God Uses the same laws of Physics that we mortals have to use as well. Now Einstein Stated that there are laws of physics that we have not yet discovered. I am one that feels what is mentioned in Bible 6 days are just Six periods of time and they could be a billion years each or what ever. So I do agree with you on the big bang. I feel that was the let there be light. I know Slimland is going spout off But sorry I feel that God has to follow the laws that govern the Universe, Or he will not be God.

[RockyMtnProDriver]

So who was the prime mover? To make the bang, I am of the opinion that God Uses the same laws of Physics that we mortals have to use as well. Now Einstein Stated that there are laws of physics that we have not yet discovered. I am one that feels what is mentioned in Bible 6 days are just Six periods of time and they could be a billion years each or what ever. So I do agree with you on the big bang. I feel that was the let there be light. I know Slimland is going spout off But sorry I feel that God has to follow the laws that govern the Universe, Or he will not be God.

I will share with you what I believe.

That everything since the Big Bang has been science based.

That everything before, is faith based, or God.

Yes, I do believe that God created the universe.

But everything since, has been based on the that original creation without any intervention.

Religion (all of them) is a human invention to describe, and ultimately justify, our existence when no description or justification is necessary.

[yoopr]

They have theirs, now we have ours.

Questions, comments?

Just like you said in your own words Rocky-A Theory and a Theory's definition is Not Proven or Unproven.

[lonewolf]

They have theirs, now we have ours.

Questions, comments?

Just like you said in your own words Rocky-A Theory and a Theory's definition is Not Proven or Unproven.

not to start anything,but the bible is just a book written by humans just like any other book and is just a theory of what "might" have happened,just like our modern day history books.

and before you ask,no i don't believe a word it has to say and no i don't believe in god either,never have and never will

[Roadhog]

I have no opinion.

All I know is....(like Curly said....in City Slicker's)

....all that matter's is just one thing.

[Windwalker]

I have no opinion.

All I know is....(like Curly said....in City Slicker's)

....all that matter's is just one thing.

That doesn't even resemble Curly....

[Windwalker]

Okay. So you started with this... GREAT BIG, HUGE MASS OF.... What caused the BANG? Spontanious combustion????? :?: And, the sun is what? The core of what ever there was here before? That would suggest that other planets have water as well. Mars looks a bit dry to me. Did we get all of the water that should have been there?

OR did some super race (that we now refer to as GOD) use that huge mass as a missile test site... Which would make us all some kind of freaks as a reaction to a kind of super nuclear radiation...

Your right... Slimland will have a FIELD DAY with this..

I don't know about any "BIG BANG", but I do suscribe to a theory of "Guided Evolution through Genetic Intervention". They have not found the "missing link", because it simply does not exist. It was skipped.

There are foot prints in Texas that go back to the age of dinosaurs (when man was not supposed to exist) that are seven inches wide, with a large, three toed print in the middle of them. That means the guy stepped there first, and a dino stepped in it. The footprints are also about six feet between steps, suggesting that the guy was 10 to 12 feet tall. (About.com... Forbidden Archeology) Where are these guys now? I mean, it's not like an elephant painting it's toenails red and hiding in a cherry tree.

In PA, under the coal beds, there are human type skulls (fossils) that date back to the early dinosaurs. And other artifacts have been found that suggest early civilizations as advanced as we are today. Aircraft and all. And these artifacts do not fit into the "time-line" set down by conventional wisdom.

So, that "BIG BANG" theory is as good as any other theory I've ever heard.

[RockyMtnProDriver]

They have theirs, now we have ours.

Questions, comments?

Just like you said in your own words Rocky-A Theory and a Theory's definition is Not Proven or Unproven.

Yes, with one proviso.

A theory should be able to be proved, or dis-proved. Or it is a belief.

Gravity is NOT a theory. It can be proved..

Most biologists agree that Darwins Theory of Evolution, is no longer a theory, as there is enough evidence to say it is true.

Creation cannot be be taught as a theory, as in the end, whether you believe it or not comes down to BELIEF, not science.

[Slimland]

Finaly another one. This is going to be fun!!!



They have theirs, now we have ours.

Questions, comments?[/quote]
Yes you do, can I play?

I know Slimland is going spout off But sorry I feel that God has to follow the laws that govern the Universe, Or he will not be God.

Yes, I agree He has to follow the Rules, He made them.


There are foot prints in Texas that go back to the age of dinosaurs (when man was not supposed to exist) that are seven inches wide, with a large, three toed print in the middle of them. That means the guy stepped there first, and a dino stepped in it. The footprints are also about six feet between steps, suggesting that the guy was 10 to 12 feet tall. (About.com... Forbidden Archeology) Where are these guys now? I mean, it's not like an elephant painting it's toenails red and hiding in a cherry tree.

In PA, under the coal beds, there are human type skulls (fossils) that date back to the early dinosaurs. And other artifacts have been found that suggest early civilizations as advanced as we are today. Aircraft and all. And these artifacts do not fit into the "time-line" set down by conventional wisdom.

Since we are talking about theory, Lets look at this possibility.
Before the Flood, the oxegen level was a whole lot greater than after the flood. Before the Flood, the Earth was watered with a mist that come out of the ground, Now by rain. "That is why they did not believe Noah, they never heard of rain" People lived about 600 to 900 years, Why? could it be because of the oxegen level being so great?
Dinosaurs, big lizards living in a highly oxengenated state, Reptiles and Fish will grow to there enviroment. Noah had to have taken young of these animals. And now after the Flood, the Oxegen is not as great therfore the cells of the body's do not produce as fast, creating a time for man and beast upon the earth. Slowly man decreased in the age of there years, in which they lived, why? Oxegen, God knew after the Flood this would happen, this is why he said man will have 120 years. Just a select few have lived longer. So a foot print in a dinosaurs is possible. And being 10-12 feet tall, they where called Nephalim, we know them as Giants, that walked the earth befor the Flood, and After. Who's to say that Goliath would and could have possibly been bigger, befor the Flood, Exspecialy when they are half Fallen Angel and Man.
Concerning the testing of bones, I you put pressure and heat on coal, it becomes a diamond, Test it, it will come out as a billion or million years old. I would think the Flood would have the sufficient amout of weight, and the moving of the Contenents, could explain the Dinosaurs being dated so far back. Example: Pangea, could this be, befor the flood? And during the flood, the heat from lava, and the pressure from the water and the moving of the contenants to the present state?


Most biologists agree that Darwins Theory of Evolution, is no longer a theory, as there is enough evidence to say it is true.

Darwin- " God, is boundless and unlimited, a circle of cercumfrence who's Everywhere and who's center is nowhere, For He must be duality, and consist of the manafest and the Non-manefest, for He is God"

God was in the beginning and the word was with God, and The Word was God, and everything that was made was made through the Word, and the Word became flesh and dwelt among men.
In the absolut smallest thing on earth inside the neutron, this smallest thing when split produces sound, Can this sound be the Word, the essense of God that hold's the World and worlds, and heavens in place. For God made everything out of Nothing, maybe he said BANG!!!! But in our language it was LET THERE BE LIGHT.

So in my opinion, Science whether Darwin's or any other mans, attempt to disprove God, has in the process just Proved Him.

Thanks Y'all that was fun!!!

[yoopr]

A theory should be able to be proved, or dis-proved. Or it is a belief

Which after all these years they haven't been able to Prove the Big-Bang Theory...

[Fozzy]

But then we come to the problem of the limited gene pool after the flood if some are to believe the biblical spin. How many times do you figure that siblings have mated since then?